Re: t-and-f: little tidbit on Kenyan training

Dan says: >Also, from the little I know of Kenyan geography, aren't most of the top >runners from a rather remote, mountainous region? In which case, it's >quite possible that they really aren't near any schools. It wouldn't make >much sense to build a school for a small group of nomadic (?) pe

Re: t-and-f: Donovan Bailey interview on CBC

- Original Message - From: "Jim Bendat" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2000 10:24 PM Subject: t-and-f: Donovan Bailey interview on CBC > Written on Wednesday 9:25 pm PDT, 3:25 PM Thursday in Sydney: I just caught > on interview with Donovan

t-and-f: Donovan Bailey interview on CBC

Written on Wednesday 9:25 pm PDT, 3:25 PM Thursday in Sydney: I just caught on interview with Donovan Bailey on CBC. His voice was clearly not its normal self. He said he's been in bed for the last three days but wants to try to work out on Thursday in the hope of competing the 100 heats whi

Re: t-and-f: little tidbit on Kenyan training

I thought most of the top runners left home to move to Brother O'Connell's boarding school. They probably DO run 20 miles to get to school- 10 miles out and 10 miles back before the first class each day... RT On Wed, 20 Sep 2000 20:55:56 -0700 (PDT), you wrote: >--- Kurt Bray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: t-and-f: on the home front

Netters Randy asked: > ...say, it's not the middle finger is it?never mind Well in fact it is the middle finger Good Training, Michael Rohl

Re: t-and-f: on the home front

Be sure and register that finger splint with the Australian Bureau of Criminal Investigation, lest it be mistaken for a terrorist weapon... ...say, it's not the middle finger is it?never mind We will expect to see you on TV playing the Bobby Kersee role by leaping out of the stands to hug

Re: t-and-f: No Polock Joke this time

How many Polish 400m runners does it take to break 3:00 for the 4x400 relay. ? Schiefer http://tnfmedia.com PS. I'm not convinved that everyone is on drugs, just those who really are.

t-and-f: re: No Polock Joke this time

RT If memory serves me correctly, this is a good bet. They finished 2nd behind the US team at Goodwill (which set the existing relay record), and ran a heck of a race, especially for four white guys. MJR

Re: t-and-f: little tidbit on Kenyan training

--- Kurt Bray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've heard Wilson Kipketer in interviews laugh at the > run-20-miles-to-school tales, because in his case he > lived next door to the school. I'm glad to hear this > from Kipketer and the Finnish guy, because otherwise > those hackneyed stories always le

t-and-f: on the home front

Netters Well Michelle has been gone for 10 days and thanks in large part to her mom, the children are doing well. I wish I could say the same for me. I had to race the day Michelle flew to San diego. To say the least travel coordination was a challenge but some how we got Michelle's Mom an

t-and-f: No Polock Joke this time

not that anybody cares, but I'm going with the Poles for the silver medal in the men's 4x400. They've been impressive in majors the last 2-3 years, and the Brit 4x4 is being gutted by various things included Richardson's ban. I don't know if a single Pole has a sub-45 PR, but they seem to be able

Re: t-and-f: Another comment on NBC TV

I can't help but think the most indicative sign of NBC's current face plant is the position the other networks are taking on it. Fox is running commercials about how stupid people are to watch some of the crazy sports in the Olympics, let alone on tape delay. The local CBS news affiliate showed

t-and-f: Chambers first in the firing line

Electronic Telegraph Thursday 21 September 2000 Tom Knight BRITAIN'S athletes enter the Games, according to performance director Max Jones, like "the cavalry coming over the hill" with sprinter Dwain Chambers leading the charge inside Stadium Australia. The team's target, which was set three y

t-and-f: another upset pick

I'm going with event "rookie" Privalova to upset the womens 400H field and take home gold RT

Re: t-and-f: Another comment on NBC TV

In a message dated 9/19/2000 8:02:05 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << After watching the evening NBC session with me since Friday, my wife informed me earlier that she wouldn't be watching tonight "as it was just trach." I asked what she meant and she said that she liked watching the competi

t-and-f: Comments on Sydney and the Relays

G'Day, Just a few comments from a "fan" in Sydney (the word "fan" is my word and in no way indicates that my status as a "fan" should be questioned because it is in quotes!) I feel so bad for the folks back in the USA because of the TV delays! It is not so much better here on commercial TV as a

Re: t-and-f: Nobody running for USATF Masters T&F chair

Maybe there are people out there who like near-impossible challenges, but the responsibilities outlined for the U.S. Masters pooh-bah sound like a 98% probability of lose-lose rather than win-win. No wonder everybody is jockeying for position to be 'last' in line. RT

t-and-f: FW: Maurice Greene relay pratice

-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2000 7:08 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Maurice Greene relay pratice Dear Paul: I just read a story that supposedly had Maurice Greene and

t-and-f: You do not want to miss this Olympic prediction contest!

Hello all, A good friend of mine send me a message similar to the one below. I strongly recommend participating in this (and other) contest(s), since it has proven to add even more fun to watching it all! Do hurry, since you've got just over a day left to fill in the entry form. Have fun watchin

t-and-f: FW: Maurice Greene relay pratice

-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2000 6:31 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Maurice Greene relay pratice No problem Paul, I didn't take as if you said it. I only meant to get the correct info

t-and-f: Perec leaves Sydney

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/olympics/2000/track_and_field/news/2000/09/20/perec_out/ SYDNEY, Australia (AP) -- Marie-Jose Perec, the defending champion in the women's 200 and 400 meters, has left Australia and will not compete in the Sydney Olympics. Denise Kaigler, a spokeswoman for Re

t-and-f: perec leaves

The wire services are reporting that Marie-Jose Perec has left Sydney and withdrawn from the Games, saying that a man pushed his way into her hotel room and threatened her. Her spokeswoman, reading a statement, said, "Because of this unfortunate incident, she has decided to withdraw from the c

Re: t-and-f: Nature vs nurture

I totally agree with Joe Donaghue's assessment about the importance of cultural influences on performance. As an aside, he mentioned that the U.S. "women's" gymnasts do not appear "athletic" by comparison to the others. I must respectfully disagree - to me they look more athletic and stronger, w

Re: t-and-f: little tidbit on Kenyan training

> Is training/exercise/activity during youth critical to the potential of the adult athlete? In other words, >can an athlete who lacked an active youth ever make up for that lack through training as an adult? There will always be individuals who are not active during youth, yet become world clas

Re: t-and-f: little tidbit on Kenyan training

--- alan tobin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > 1. from their ancestors they get the genetic advantage of a high > metabolism contributing to them being rail thin [snip] > We could say because they are of east African decent. If so then why > aren't our best runners of east African decent. I'm su

Re: t-and-f: little tidbit on Kenyan training

On Wed, 20 Sep 2000, Dan Kaplan wrote: > --- > Scandinavian researcher Bengt Saltin tested the maximum oxygen uptake of > active and less active Kenyan children. Active children from teh age of > seven years walked ror ran to school at least 8k per day. The range of > habitual activity

Re: t-and-f: little tidbit on Kenyan training

>Of course it also means we must look to other, harder explanations as to >why >the Kenyans are such good runners. > >Kurt Bray There is no smoke, no mirrors, no magic potion, no genetic code, it is purely a list: 1. from their ancestors they get the genetic advantage of a high metabolism co

Re: t-and-f: Jones' path clears for 100m

Conway wrote: > Alan Shank wrote: > > > Agree here. But still, undefeated is undefeated. I think she was a lock, > Inger > > or no. > > If Miller can't run the relay, it puts more emphasis on the baton passing. > > Again this is the Olympics and anything can happen .. MJ was a "lock" in 92 > .. E

t-and-f: Nature vs nurture

Ignoring the rude post regarding Larry Rawson, I read with interest the evidence that the Kenyans developing efforts are cultural and not reliant on genetics.Their efforts ( works) are phenomenal. The belief that you are what you believe and practice or think about all day seems to be ope

t-and-f: Is Anywhere "Safe"?

The NBCOlympics.com site obviously does not "hold back" results and stories until they are broadcast on TV. Don't these guys have the same boss? Is there any place that can be considered "safe" on the web? That is to say, if I go there to read stories and look for results, will I see results I

t-and-f: Venting about nbc's coverage

For those of you so inclined to voice your opinion and rate nbc's coverage of the olympics, you can do so at their website www.nbc.com. They are inviting feedback, so have at em. D     -- Dalton Foster Ph.D. Post-Doctoral Research Associate Department of Medical Physiology Texas A&M University

Re: t-and-f: Bailey has a Virus ?

In a message dated 9/20/00 7:55:37 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << A local radio station here in Ottawa, Ontario reported that Bailey had come down with a virus 2 day's prior to the start of his event. No further details were given. Anybody else heard about this ? Would this be the same v

t-and-f: Perec leaves Sydney

Perhaps another top athlete out of the games ?? http://www.trackandfield.com/content/news/news_story.pl?id=253673 Conway Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: t-and-f: Jones' path clears for 100m

Alan Shank wrote: > Still, she has NEVER beaten Marion at 200, just as in the 100. When two runners > are actually "competetive," you expect there to be some overlap over almost four > years of racing. I would agree .. However, there is a first time for everything .. And the Olympics is where t

t-and-f: "5 gold medals"

The entire "5 gold medals" hype is absurd, because on present information and ability, Marion does not win the long jump. She is also apt to obtain the baton in the 4 by 400m with the Russians 7-9 yards ahead, which would give her an "opportunity" to close very fast, a-la-Jamie-Baulch, and blow up

Re: t-and-f: Articles: Heredity and Athletic Performance

On Wed, 20 Sep 2000, david lesley wrote: > In fact, it seems to me that the North Africans are much more > closely related to the Portuguese and Spanish (also formidable runners) than > they are to the Ethiopians and Kenyans. This of course is very true. North Africa has always been part of the

t-and-f: For the best Olympic Coverage w/o NBC's BS

Check out this site. More fun than a fluffy NBC story. MJR HTTP://www.zdnet.com/yil/content/depts/olympicbuzz/index.html

t-and-f: Nobody running for USATF Masters T&F chair

Greetings, all: As of today -- Wednesday, Sept. 20, 2000 -- not a single person has submitted his or her name as a candidate for chairman of the USATF Masters Track & Field Committee. This information comes from a member of the masters elections committee. So with just 10 weeks to go before t

Re: t-and-f: Articles: Heredity and Athletic Performance

Netters This article is like many which claim that black athletes dominate racing, and the evidence presented is that all major race records are held by runners of African descent. Othello aside, the North Africans are Caucasian, aren't they? In fact, it seems to me that the North Africans are mu

Re: t-and-f: little tidbit on Kenyan training

John writes: >I spoke recently with a researcher in Finland who had interviewed a number >of superior Kenyan athletes. He claimed that virtually none of them had run >to school as children. Many lived just around the corner from their school! I've heard Wilson Kipketer in interviews laugh at the

Re: t-and-f: Jones' path clears for 100m

Conway wrote: > Kebba Tolbert wrote: > > I agree with you regarding the 100 .. Inger is fast enough I believe, but > has too inconsistent a start for a short sprinter .. I too had already > pegged Thanou as the silver medallist .. However, I think Inger had a very > good chance in the 200 .. Take

t-and-f: Larry Rawson--Tops in my Book

As a t and f/running journalist who has worked alongside Larry at a number of events, I second with enthusiasm the positive comments about Larry's expertise made by M. Fanelli, W. Murphy, D. Monti, and T. Derderian (all respected and prominent members of our sport and this list) and others. B

t-and-f: Articles: Heredity and Athletic Performance

Two articles of interest are currently posted on the San Jose Mercury News web site: http://www.sjmercury.com/scitech/ "Athletic Ability and Potential May Be Determined by Heredity, Scientists Say" -- which details recent research on West African sprinters and East African distance runners.

Re: t-and-f: Jones' path clears for 100m

Kebba Tolbert wrote: > The mistake people are making is that Inger had a shot to beatMarion. Of > course she did in the sense that any 1 of the 8 finalists can win. But > Inger hasn't come close to Marion in the last three years over 100m (except > in the 1 race this summer where Marion looked t

Re: t-and-f: Jones' path clears for 100m

Kebba wrote: > The mistake people are making is that Inger had a shot to beatMarion. Of > course she did in the sense that any 1 of the 8 finalists can win. But > Inger hasn't come close to Marion in the last three years over 100m (except > in the 1 race this summer where Marion looked terrible

RE: t-and-f: little tidbit on Kenyan training

With due respect to Owen Anderson's writing, Bengt Saltin (a Dane) has made a name to himself in exercise physiology long before Running research News or other applied popular literature existed. He is one of the most knowledgeable and articulate scientists in this field. UG

Re: t-and-f: Re: Larry Rawson -- what an ego -- NOT!

Ok, I think we're all pretty much in agreement that tf4ever is an idiot and 4ever blacklisted from this list. Now, if I may, I would like to stray from the party line and comment that his (?) idiocy and slander has brought this list to life like seldom seen in the past few months. If only the sa

Re: t-and-f: Jones' path clears for 100m

>From: "Eamonn Condon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: "Eamonn Condon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "Track & Field" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: t-and-f: Jones' path clears for 100m >Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 19:37:32 -0700 > >Electronic Telegraph >Wednesday 20 September 2000 >MARION JONES'S attempt to w

t-and-f: Re: Larry Rawson -- what an ego -- NOT!

Dear Track Net Friends: I don't know who <<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> is, but I DO KNOW who Larry Rawson IS. Larry Rawson is the last person connected to our sport I would describe as having an ego. Larry is personable, a hard worker and above all else a professional. I can't believe that Mr. Raw

t-and-f: distance events, tv

Folks, As usual, defining a problem properly often leads to easy solutions. For example: - Problem: Up-close-and-personals dominate. - Solution: athletes refuse to open up their personal problems to the press. "I lived next door to school in a rich suburb. My parent

Re: t-and-f: little tidbit on Kenyan training

I spoke recently with a researcher in Finland who had interviewed a number of superior Kenyan athletes. He claimed that virtually none of them had run to school as children. Many lived just around the corner from their school! John Bale - Original Message - From: Dan Kaplan <[EMAIL PROTECT

t-and-f: Currente Calamo

Netters:     First a correction on a bit of errata in a recent post., The word my wife used to describe the NBC coverage was "trash" (I wrote it as trach).       For the record: The hype on Marion Jones formally began last night at 10:50 p.m. (EDT) with the first of what will proba

t-and-f: little tidbit on Kenyan training

I've been meaning to post this for some time now... Several weeks back, I received a mysterious "Coaches Track & Field Review" magazine in the mail. Never heard of it before, don't know why I got it, but it sure beats the other unsolicited mail I get! There's an article on pg. 15 (Volume 73, Is

Re: t-and-f: Miller out of 100

You Dear Sir, Have future in broadcast sports journalism. D Jack Pfeifer wrote: > Did I miss anything ?? > > Yes: > 1. Inger in the stands, on camera, during those races, cheering heroically for her >teammates. After the 4x1 medal ceremony, Inger runs onto the field and

Re: t-and-f: Bailey has a Virus ?

In a message dated 00-09-20 08:55:45 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << A local radio station here in Ottawa, Ontario reported that Bailey had come down with a virus 2 day's prior to the start of his event. No further details were given. Anybody else heard about this ? Would this be the sam

Re: t-and-f: Larry Rawson

I would like to go on record as saying that I don't believe that this conversation ever took place. I have been a fan of Larry for years and have had a couple of e-mail exchanges with him. I have seen nothing in his personality which supports "track ever". If one wants to post this type of garbag

t-and-f: Re: T&F Bailey has a Virus ?

Title: Bailey has a Virus ? There is an article in the Toronto Sun today. There is likely one in the Ottawa Sun also. The following link should work.   http://www.torontosun.com/TorontoSports/ts.ts-09-20-0127.html   Regards,    Martin     Millard, Rouse & Rosebrugh    Martin

Re: t-and-f: Larry Rawson

I have worked with Larry Rawson on a Boston Marathon radio broadcast WEEI where Larry rode in one of two lead trucks and I was the color anchor guy who would go in the broadcast from one truck to another. Never did Larry try to hog the show or do anything to anything other than contribute to the

t-and-f: Bailey has a Virus ?

Title: Bailey has a Virus ? A local radio station here in Ottawa, Ontario reported that Bailey had come down with a virus 2 day's prior to the start of his event. No further details were given. Anybody else heard about this ? Would this be the same virus Ms Arron has ? ...Harry Welten,  

Re: t-and-f: Fast-finishing Johnson closes in on final gold

Dear Listers, Out of curiosity, Does anyone know Michael Johnson's overall 200 and 400 record from 1990 to 2000? I know he had a couple of streaks in between for both events. Could he possibly have the best record for wins in major finals for both events? Larry A. Morgan Elizabeth Heat TC

t-and-f: NCAA II Rankings & Results

The NCAA Division II Cross-Country Coaches Association's "newsletter" is up and running at d2rankings.homestead.com. There you will find the regional and national rankings for D-II cross-country, plus either results or links to results involving D-II teams. Note: the results posted are what get se

t-and-f: Larry Rawson - Cheap Shot

Track Listers, Larry Rawson is my colleague, friend and neighbor. He always conducts himself with dignity and rarely says a bad word about anyone. The post made by Track4Ever was nothing more than an electronic smear, pure fiction. It has no place in this forum. Please drop his e-mail addre

t-and-f: Larry Rawson responds

I'm sure tf4ever is having a huge laugh over his unsigned abuse of this list. Isn't it a shame that someone like Larry Rawson, who has given so much to the sport, and who has done so much behind the scenes to help others, is put in a position to defend himself against such a smear? I talked to

Re: t-and-f: First Sydney distance run winner

I certainly agree with this. It can be seen in triathlon competitions that it is mainly a run competitions. All the breaks in the participants due to the swim disappears with the bike bit, since the dragging effect plays an important role here. If you look at data from the three events the on

Re: t-and-f: Credibility of sources (was Relay Controversy)

In a message dated 9/19/00 5:34:42 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << Agreed .. I fully believe that the incident DIDN'T happen .. And I too have "guessed" at one of the posters .. However knowing that you have a reliable source is much better than hoping you have a reliable source .. >> You can