t-and-f: Profile of Heptathon Winner

Electronic Telegraph Monday 25 September 2000 Sean O'Neill FIVE years ago, before she finished a disappointing third at the Atlanta Olympics, Denise Lewis knew that the 2000 Games were her real goal. "Sydney is my baby," she said. "Atlanta is my dress rehearsal." Yesterday, on a wet spring

t-and-f: National records

A new website for all the world national records, often updated at http://aimeserre.multimania.com/index.html

Re: t-and-f: 5 US track athletes tested positive at Seoul Olympics - de Merode

In a message dated 9/24/00 6:50:28 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: "De Merode also told reporters that five American athletes had competed at the 1988 Olympics in Seoul despite failing dope tests before the Games. He said they had failed out-of-competition tests in the

t-and-f: O'Sullivan's day of reckoning

The Irish Times Monday, September 25, 2000 Tom Humphries Andy Warhol didn't mean this, surely. Not just 15 minutes of fame but 15 minutes to define a career, to justify an obsession, to satisfy a lifetime of yearning. Sonia O'Sullivan gets 15 minutes today - 15 minutes in which to become an

Re: t-and-f: CJ Hunter tests positive

I'm still waiting for a USATF press release on Hunter. I would have thought that the folks at USATF would have spoken by now.? To quote Ted Knight in Caddyshack..."Well, we're waiting??" Schiefer

RE: t-and-f: Marion Jones drug test in HS

Dennis, "At the time" there was no WNBA basketball career for her to pursue. malmo!TMAnother self-anointed "award-winning" pundit for the Sydney2000TM Olympics -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dennis HealySent: Sunday,

t-and-f: BBC Report Other US Athletes failed tests

Watching BBC live coverage. It is being reported by Craig Masback that CJ Hunter has been confirmed as being tested positive and that "other US athletes have failed tests" But denying any that are competing in Sydney have failed. So who's not competing? What was it about rumours, Malmo? David

t-and-f: M 110H semi question

Was the Crear/Jackson false-start the first time two athletes have been simultaneously charged with a flier? I can't recall this before. Regards - GT - http://homepages.go.com/~oztrack/

Re: t-and-f: Marion Jones drug test in HS

I don't believe Marion ever quit anything -- EXCEPT competitive basketball after 1997 season. She certainly never quit track. In her collegiate years (1994-97), Marion was one of the country's best collegiate basketball players. While she intended to do both basketball and track (she

t-and-f: positive tests

I've read a great many articles in re the cleverness of crooked athletes being able to beat the testers. Nandrolone is not a new drug. It's actually one of the older ones. One would think that those clever athletes would easily be able to beat any test for such a substance. But there is

t-and-f: Gunnell, Lewis

David Back to live coverage :-) PS: You've got Carol Lewis we've got Sally Gunnell I've heard Lewis only once (she was indeed horrible), but Gunnell isn't bad at all (certainly if compared to). And Roger Black, also commentating for the BBC is great - as he was as a runner. Enormous crew

t-and-f: The ATFS Golden Jubilee Book

LS Courtesy EAA. Wilmar Kortleever [EMAIL PROTECTED] schreef: European Athletic Association (EAA)! The following message has been written on the EAA News Board: * -- TITEL: The ATFS Golden Jubilee Book --

t-and-f: Olympic qualifiation - why the Dutch pole vaulter was left out

Roger Ruth schreef: Monique de Wilt (NED), perhaps the most puzzling omission, has improved the Dutch national record 11 times since the Atlanta Games. Her seasonal best of 4.30m would have made the finals. Netherlands didn't enter a vaulter. The Dutch athletics federation is forced by the

t-and-f: Oly M 400m reactions times

S p o i l e r S p a c e Any eye witness accounts? According to the reaction times posted at olympics.com, MJ, Alvin, et al were snoozing in the blocks. Race Results Results for 25 Sep 20:25 Official Olympic Stadium Rk Ln Name Country Final Time React Time Time

Re: t-and-f: High Jump Finals

CBC absolutely got it right. NBC showed a couple of jumps by Sotomayor, a clearance and a miss by Voronin, and then the results. Not what I was hoping for. Of course, I should have been glad to get anything, considering the Americans finished 11th and 13th. David

Re: t-and-f: Oly M 400m reactions times

- Original Message - From: Pete [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 25, 2000 1:53 PM Subject: t-and-f: Oly M 400m reactions times S p o i l e r S p a c e Any eye witness accounts? According to the reaction times posted at

Re: t-and-f: CJ Hunter tests positive

On Mon, 25 Sep 2000 03:04:05 EDT, you wrote: I'm still waiting for a USATF press release on Hunter. I would have thought that the folks at USATF would have spoken by now.? To quote Ted Knight in Caddyshack..."Well, we're waiting??" Schiefer The IAAF press release

t-and-f: Looking for a primer on banned substances

Hi folks, I'm curious to know if there is an online (or hardcopy) listing of all banned substances. I seem to recall someone posting something some time ago. Any help will be greatly appreciated. Regards, --- | Bob Ramsak | OHIO Track Running Report |

Re: t-and-f: In defense of positive tests

Netters I had a terrible thought John wrote "I used Preparation-H", and it was tainted. Forget the toothpaste theory, or the six beers, and sex theory, let's go with something more asinine..Hemhorriod medication. CJ and the to much sex theory. Oh My I yhope we don't have to

t-and-f: USATF Drug Cover-Ups...ASK D. ROBINSON

I'm stunned by the recent bombshell about potential USATF drug coverups. Gee, go figure. 8 in in 88? I wonder if anybody who won a medal was involved. I thought that only those dirty Canadian sprinters or Chinese women, or recently Dutch swimmers were juiced? Ask Darrell Robinson, HS 400m

RE: t-and-f: Looking for a primer on banned substances

Bob - The IAAF.ORG site has a listing. It can be a little hard to navigate but it is there. They will not let you download it however. Or I could send you a file, hard copy or fax if you wanted which is accurate as of Jan, 2000. Floyd Highfill -Original Message-

t-and-f: Belated News

Netters: Well, after giving up on ever seeing the 1500M first round, and thus rerading the posts giving the news on what happened, NBC finally deigned to shoiw two of them (poor Jason Pyrah, I guess he hasn't got enough glamor to rate 5 minutes of TV time) at about 11 a.m. EST

Re: t-and-f: USATF Drug Cover-Ups...ASK D. ROBINSON

Ryan Grote wrote: I'm stunned by the recent bombshell about potential USATF drug coverups. Gee, go figure. 8 in in 88? I wonder if anybody who won a medal was involved. I thought that only those dirty Canadian sprinters or Chinese women, or recently Dutch swimmers were juiced?

t-and-f: Bob Costas's view of race walking

He said this last night and I thought it was funny. "Race walking, I don't understand it, Its like seeing who can wisper the loudest" _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share

Re: t-and-f: Oly M 400m reactions times

Looking at Pettigrew also, it appears to have been a US slumber party! Maybe they were hanging around at the start, discussing relay order? If I waste 7+ hours of my day watching NBC, would the odds of their 5 minutes of daily action be likely to include the 400? Dan --- Pete [EMAIL

t-and-f: Relay Redux

Away from the drug issue for a bit .. Now that the 100 and 400 meter races are complete, I think we have a better view of what may happen in the relays .. While I thought the "HSI" team was a natural, Chaplin's announced squad of Drummond to Montgomery to Williams to Greene does comprise what

Re: t-and-f: Hickman

In a message dated 9/25/00 3:14:51 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: did i miss something? why is libbie running road races when she's supposed to be running in sydney in a few days? I think those are last year's results Jim Gerweck Running Times

t-and-f: Hickman?

What is Libbei Hickman's status. She ran great race this weekend. I am very confused? Mike Platt

Re: t-and-f: Bob Costas's view of race walking

In a message dated 9/25/2000 11:27:05 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: He said this last night and I thought it was funny. "Race walking, I don't understand it, Its like seeing who can wisper the loudest" Actually, that's been used before. Don't remember where or

Re: t-and-f: Bob Costas's view of race walking

That's wierd, he said this in 1992 and then apologized for it in 1996 citing the number of irate letters he recieved from race walkers and their supporters. Did he actually say it again? On Mon, 25 Sep 2000, andrew mcdonagh wrote: He said this last night and I thought it was funny. "Race

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t-and-f: Coverage

I look forward to the Olympics. I enjoy the competition in all venues. Initially I was my usual "anxious and excited" self as I looked forward to the possibility of the many hours of the coverage that were to be available for viewing. As we approached the end of the first week of the games the

Re: t-and-f: CJ Hunter tests positive - USATF speaks - not

Wait no longer... We have a long-standing policy of not commenting on issues involving doping and drug testing No kidding!! Tony Craddock PS There is no truth to the rumor that CJ quit track to pursue a career in his first love, basketball. U.S. Track and Field won't

Re: t-and-f: Stay-at-homes

It's funny how some of us over here in the USA complain about our system when we have one of the fairest in the world. Most countries only send athletes who have a shot to medal, much less top 8. If we used the "top 8" or "make the final" qualification then our distance crew would be pretty

t-and-f: 1500m prelims questions (don't read if you're waiting for TV)

I've read on runnersworld.com and on a French site that ElG hurt his leg at the 300 mark. what exactly happened? most top guns still there save for Silva and Shabunin. Kaouch of Maroc is out - he was the "rabbit" for ElG in Seville last year. Though there is one more Moroccan left if they

t-and-f: RE: Hickman / Great Race

Yes, the Running Network results were from Sept. 26, 1999. from Runner's World Daily / David Monti this year's Sept. 26, 2000 top results: Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, Richard S. Caliguiri Great Race 10-K: Men - 1. Alena Emere, ETH, 27:49; 2. Leonard Mucheru, KEN, 28:03; 3. Gabriel Muchiri, KEN,

Re: t-and-f: 400H start lists

There were 3 semi-final races in the 400 Hurdles, not two. The 3 winners, plus the fastest second place finisher, were assigned lanes 3-4-5-6 for the final. Jim Bendat From: "P.F.Talbot" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: "P.F.Talbot" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Track list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:

Re: t-and-f: 400H start lists

Lanes in rounds after the first are decided on the basis of time only. The top four times get the best four lanes, randomly, and the rest get the other lanes, randomly. -- From: "P.F.Talbot" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Track list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: t-and-f: 400H start lists Date: Mon,

t-and-f: Searching for HS X-C, Great American Festival Results

I saw that Mt. View, UT won or something, as did Webb, anybody have a website with full results. Figuring I'll start following the HS ranks more until they are all ganked just like those darned Canadian sprinters and Dutch swimmers. Grote adiRP

t-and-f: Launch of Athletics Weekly's website

Just to let you know that Athletics Weekly have recently launched their website. Early days of course, but please try www.athleticsweekly.com. Thanks Matthew Fraser Moat

RE: t-and-f: CJ Hunter tests positive - USATF speaks - not

Does Ms. Geer regret having accepted herposition now? malmo -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of A.J. CraddockSent: Monday, September 25, 2000 9:42 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: t-and-f: CJ Hunter

t-and-f: Men's 10,000 Finals

Anybody think that Tergat should've been DQ'd for his big-time drifting down the home stretch, forcing Geb to move two lanes to his right? Jim Bendat What's wrong with that? Up to Geb to go round him. Randall Northam

t-and-f: FinishLynx / NCAA Division I Women's XC National Poll #2

The second regular season poll is now posted at www.FinishLynx.com Jesse Rosen

t-and-f: Musings

Let's start with the 400ih before I get to my rantings. Because there were 3 semi final heats, the lanes are drawn by place, then time. Angelo made the mistake of taking second, and threw caution to the wind. Now to more disturbing news. A month ago I talked about the pending politics that

t-and-f: C J Hunter

I take it they have separate tubes of toothpaste in the Hunter household. Randall Northam

t-and-f: Boulder Backroads Marathon

Torelli, Pustea win marathon By Michael Sandrock Camera Sports Writer The Boulder Backroads Marathon is run, as the name suggests, on the backroads north of the Boulder Reservoir. Those soft dirt roads

t-and-f: Olympic Hepathlon Champion Writes.........

Electronic Telegraph Monday 25 September 2000 'Unsatisfying' victory means I'll compete again By Denise Lewis NOBODY could have guessed how close I was to crashing out in pain in Sydney on Sunday night. I escaped with a first gold medal but to win that way was ungratifying. I have this

t-and-f: Mixed zone - the triumph and despair of day 11 (Includes Results)

Electronic Telegraph Monday 25 September 2000 Sue Mott "HEY, carry my damn flag," said Michael Johnson, the owner, ruler, king-god of the Olympic 400 metres to one of the milling civil servants attached to the US track team after his inevitable lap of honour. "Oh man!" was the joyous,

RE: t-and-f: USATF Drug Cover-Ups...ASK D. ROBINSON

Mr. Grote, There will no longer be Darrell Robinson's to crush anymore because diligent reporters with interviews spanning decades have already uncovered the truth. They've fact-checked and double fact-checked their sources and libel-proofedthemselves, as well. There are just too many

RE: t-and-f: Slinger, part 2?

"Slinger Sanchez..." is an accurate and realisticportrayal of track and field's dirty underbelly. The book claims to be fiction, however, much of the story really happened -- I'm positive of that. malmo!TMAnother self-anointed "award-winning" pundit for the Sydney2000TM Olympics

t-and-f: Monique reportedly off the 4x4

Y ask Y: My newsroom sources say Monique Henderson -- the teen sensation from San Diego's Morse High School -- will NOT run the 4x4 relay first round (as I had hoped). Unsure of final relay pool composition, however. Anyone out there aware of an official USATF or USOC pronouncement on the

Re: t-and-f: Bob Costas's view of race walking

See, Im not the only one with an Anti Racewalking opinion! Mantis -Original Message- From: andrew mcdonagh [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Monday, September 25, 2000 11:14 AM Subject: t-and-f: Bob Costas's view of race

Re: t-and-f: C J Hunter

See, the defense's explanation is obvious. Considering the size of CJ, not only do they have separate tubes of toothpaste and medicine cabinets, they couldn't possibly share a bathroom. That doorway would have to be 7' square. Dan --- northam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I take it they have

Re: t-and-f: Bob Costas's view of race walking

At least Costas could have used an original line. His analogy was old as dirt. Mike Platt

t-and-f: more cj

Reuters is reporting that CJ Hunter tested positive for nandrolone three other times this year, prior to the positive in Oslo. JP

t-and-f: Chgange of guard in HH foir US

Netters: The disappointing 2-3-4 finish for the US in HHs, an event it has almost always owned had one silver lining, the great race by young Terrence (sp?) Trammell, who we must now look to for the future of the event. Ed Grant

t-and-f: Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 21:42:11 -0700

Netters: A classic TV moment tonight on NBC. About an hour ago, during a commercial break, an updated Avon ad came on which congratulated the first OIlympic women's PV champion Stacy Dragila. This is 9:45 (EDT) and we have yet to see the much-rpomised coverage of the final results.

t-and-f: Karma

Runners World reports that Craig Masback, the CEO of USA Track and Field, was not issued an Athletics (track and field) credential and can't get into the Olympic Stadium. Masback apparently asked USOC several times for help, but to no avail. malmo!TM Another self-anointed "award-winning" pundit

t-and-f: Americans accused of drugs cover-up

Electronic Telegraph Tuesday 26 September 2000 Mihir Bose THE drugs cloud which had long threatened to overshadow the Olympics finally descended on Sydney yesterday with the Americans being accused of a cover-up. On the day it was revealed that American shot-putter C J Hunter had tested

t-and-f: Triple Jump Report

Electronic Telegraph Monday 25 September 2000 Tom Knight JONATHAN EDWARDS played his part in the greatest single night of athletic action here by crowning his career with an Olympic gold medal in the triple jump. He may have had only a support role in the drama surrounding Cathy Freeman's

Re: t-and-f: 5 positive names from 1988

The word that I get is that three of the five who tested positive at the 1988 US Olympic track and field Trials accounted for five of the gold medals at the Seoul Olympics. Tony Craddock Is there a reason why people have to keep going back to 1988 (TWELVE years ago!) to dig up enough dirt for

Re: t-and-f: Chgange of guard in HH foir US

No disrespect to Ed, but how can we call 2-3-4 dissapointing... it reminds of a story about Nebraska football a few years ago. They had gone unscored-upon in their first 3- or 4 games. In like the 5th game of the season a team scored on them (Nebraska won like 42-10) and the reporter asked

Re: t-and-f: Monique reportedly off the 4x4

In a message dated 9/25/00 9:03:12 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Also: Carol Lewis was at her gag-me-with-a-baton best today It is getting to the point where I turn down the sound on the TV, like I used to do w/ Howard Cosell. Even in the crappy stuff NBC has been feeding us, she stands

RE: t-and-f: Searching for HS X-C, Great American Festival Results

Search no more. Go to DyeStat. Complete results and 100 pictures. John Dye[EMAIL PROTECTED]DyeStat - the Internet home of High School Trackhttp://www.dyestat.rivals.com -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ryan GroteSent: Monday,

Re: t-and-f: Monique reportedly off the 4x4

Y ask Y: My newsroom sources say Monique Henderson -- the teen sensation from San Diego's Morse High School -- will NOT run the 4x4 relay first round (as I had hoped). Unsure of final relay pool composition, however. Anyone out there aware of an official USATF or USOC pronouncement on the

Re: t-and-f: 5 positive names from 1988

Is there a reason why people have to keep going back to 1988 (TWELVE years ago!) to dig up enough dirt for trash talking? TAC has pretty much swept aside almost all the relevent 'names' in authority since then and became USATF. Actually, that's not really true. I'd venture that most of

t-and-f: Womens' 800m Report

Electronic Telegraph Tuesday 26 September 2000 Tom Knight KELLY HOLMES proved the power of positive thinking last night by winning the bronze medal in a race she thought she would never be fit enough to run in. Only six weeks after struggling to prove her fitness at the British trials in

t-and-f: It makes a change . . .

C. J. Hunter - four positives this year with one testing over 1000 times above the legal limi for Nandrolone. "I know what's going on, and I am aware of the allegations, and am going to defend myself vigorously" says C. J. Five 'positives' before Seoul of athletes that competed at the Games and

Re: t-and-f: A little perspective

And she is not the first aborigine woman to become the best in her selected sport. That honor must go to Eva Goolagong (Cawley), the greatv tenbnis star whose name (I realize she is not an Olympian, but she surely is everything else) has, to my knowledge never been mentioned in the NBC

Re: t-and-f: 5 positive names from 1988

What I am wondering is why, if the IOC and IAAF are so determined to keep drug disclosures at a "minimum" during the 15-day run of the games- -such has been suggested as the goal of the IOC many times on this list- ...and this appears to be why the IAAF was determined to not announce anything

Re: t-and-f: Bob Costas's view of race walking

Believe it or not, FloJo said it once in an interview although she may have not been the first. Ed Koch -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date:

t-and-f: CJ breaks down

I see Mr Cochrane is on the case again...and what's this about CJ's plans to retire post-Sydney? Anyone heard that before? from http://www.olympics.smh.com.au/news/2000/09/26/FFX1CGLOKDC.html Champion US shotputter CJ Hunter broke down in tears today after his wife, sprinter Marion Jones,

t-and-f: Sept 25: NCAA WOMEN'S CROSS COUNTRY POLL ANALYSIS

2000 NCAA WOMEN'S CROSS COUNTRY POLL ANALYSIS by Mike Scott, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Updated September 25. Here's an analysis of the NCAA female harrier teams. I have listed the teams according to the NCAA coaches' poll rankings (which I don't necessarily always agree with). Unless otherwise noted,

t-and-f: Did Marion know?

http://www.olympics.smh.com.au/athletics/2000/09/25/FFX6M64EJDC.html Did Marion know? By JACQUELIN MAGNAY6:28PM, Sep 25 The question on everyone's lips is, did Marion know? Did the darling of the track stoop so low as to lie outright to protect her burly husband CJ Hunter and perpetuate

t-and-f: US officials deny drug results cover-up

http://www.olympics.smh.com.au/news/2000/09/25/FFXNCV3EJDC.html US officials deny drug results cover-up By JACQUELIN MAGNAY7:58PM, Sep 25 United States track and field officials have angrily denied they tried to cover up the steroid results of world shot put champion C.J. Hunter, husband

Re: t-and-f: CJ breaks down

- Original Message - From: "THOMAS,Graham" I see Mr Cochrane is on the case again...and what's this about CJ's plans to retire post-Sydney? Anyone heard that before? I saw an interview with CJ on NBC a couple days before he was busted. CJ said that he planned on retiring after

t-and-f: Hypocrisy, thy name is USA

http://www.olympics.smh.com.au/news/2000/09/25/FFXTP64EJDC.html Hypocrisy, thy name is USA By KAREN CROUSE, LOS ANGELES DAILY NEWS7:15PM, Sep 25 I want to celebrate the Olympics. I want to write about hurdler Glory Alozie's courage in competing two weeks after her fiance was struck and

Re: t-and-f: CJ breaks down

Yes, he is going to pursue his first love.basketball. Cochrane can cut him the same deal with TAC/TFUSA that he did when she was suspended, and they get the family discount on the legal fees because they just photocopy the plea bargain. Tony Craddock At 03:03 PM 9/26/00 +1100, you wrote: I

Re: t-and-f: 5 positive names from 1988

On Mon, 25 Sep 2000, R.T. wrote: then why in the world are Merode and Lundquist choosing the forum of Sydney to take shotgun blasts at U.S. procedures, strongly implying that there is subterfuge going on? I'm not talking '88, I'm talking '00. They are fully aware of U.S. court restrictions,

t-and-f: Thanks, Visa

So there I am watching the Olympics tonight, and Visa flashes a commercial "Congratulations to Stacy Dragila, the first Olympic pole vault champion..." while the competition which is being televised has not even finished! Gee, thanks, Visa. Brian McGuire

RE: t-and-f: 5 positive names from 1988

They are fully aware of U.S. court restrictions, why choose NOW to blast away? Isn't it political grandstanding? RT US court restrictions? This is new to me. What would they be? malmo!TM Another self-anointed "award-winning" pundit for the Sydney2000TM Olympics