Veering a bit here but the subject line made me think of it. There are some
yahoos on letsrun that actually espouse the theory that the reason there was so
much depth in distance in the early eighties is because the courses(and probably
the tracks) were all short.
Regards,
Martin
ghill wrote:
to letsrun.com.
- Ed Parrot
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Regards,
Martin
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Veering again here but I've always been impressed by this result by the
Craig twins. Had to be a reasonably deep field for the time and probably
full of people who had been peaking for an Olympic 1500 that they didn't
get to go to? I'm sure that I am about to find out.
4th all time Can
3:57.21,
Given how she has been running, there is an argument to be made that she
is the best North American collegiate female XC runner.
http://www.sfu.ca/athletics/track-field/press_releases02/tf_naia_11-23-02.html
Regards,
Martin
Dr. Barwin also says the 2:58 he posted in the Victoria marathon, where
there were no timing mats, is a legitimate time.
Whatever.
I'm sure the Canadian listers from Ottawa are well aware of this cheat.
To access the link, make sure you put the symbol at the end of the link
into your browser.
A posting to the Canadian list.
Regards,
Martin
From: David Scott-Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Track-Canada [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Despite the informal nature of this group, I thought it would be a good
mechanism to help get the word out about a position with the Guelph
Athletics Society we
http://www.letsrun.com/2002/kipkuna.php
Ed Grant wrote:
Netters:
Several years ago I was introduced to a young man at a HS meet at
Fairleigh Dickinson University and was told he was the brother of Paul
Tergat. (FDU has three Kenyan men and at least one woman on its present CC
team) Byt
Watched a tape of the marathon from the local affiliate last night and
saw the death march of some of top finishers. An englishman named O'Dowd
went flying by Meb in the last few hundred yards for 8th place and
2:12:20 in
his debut(his previous claim to fame was a 63 half). No wonder he looked
A reasonably funny post to letsrun:
First U.S.-Born Finisher in NYC Marathon -- Guess Who?
Scroll down.
Marla Runyan, a 33-year-old blind woman.
Regards,
Martin
Gibson had the swim of her life to beat the world record held by East
German Birgit Treiber in the 1976 Olympic final of the 400-metre
individual medley. But there was another East German in the pool that
day, Ulrike Tauber, who was more than six seconds ahead of Gibson.
I don't talk about that
I don't think this forwarded message went through the first time because
it went as HTML text. Sorry if you are getting twice.
Regards,
Martin
The 2003 Knights of Columbus Games is fast approaching. Along with the
800 age class athletes and 3500 elementary school
students who compete in this
Actually, now that you mention it, seeing Sully break 4 as a high schooler
was one of the most exciting things that I have ever seen.
Regards,
Martin
T. Jordan wrote:
One of the most entertaining performances I've seen...Alan Webb's HS mile
record. During his last 300, it was the loudest I've
North American 5k Road Championships
Chula Vista, California
Sunday, October 27th 2002
Partly cloudy, 20 degrees Celsius
Team Results
1. Mexico 10 pts
2. USA 16 pts
3. Canada 21 pts
Individual Results
Women
1. Dulce Rodriguez MEX 15:30
2. Émilie Mondor CAN 15:32 (PB)
3. Adriana Fernandez
Makes you wonder about the following I guess then. Maybe he would have only saved
them from bad breath.
When he learned that a famous track coach was supplying his
athletes with drugs, Chamberlain withdrew his support, and
agonized over whether he should go public to save the
life of other young
No offense to Monti and RRW but the IAAF really shouldn't propagate this
kind of NYRRC/RW nonsense. Even at age 50, he could do much better than
this. I'm surprised Rojo would promote the piece without some kind of
editorial comment.
Coghlan will compete seriously in the New York City Marathon
Some ageism here but Eamonn's face in 83(pre marathon career) on the home
stretch and Joannie winning shortly after her knee surgery,
Regards,
Martin
Ed and Dana Parrot wrote:
In terms of the most memorable for me:
-both the Lewis-Powell Long Jump and the whole 100m from 1991
-2002 London
Except there are some (not me) that say that isn't even PR's best performance of
the year so that sends it way down the food chain.
Regards,
Martin
(bad science follower)
Post, Marty wrote:
Paula Radcliffe - 2:17:18 ! Oh, wait, That's my short-term memory
kicking in.
I have just received my 3rd blank message in the last hour from
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Am I the only one. Sorry to trouble the
list if I am.
Regards,
Martin
So I go home to check to see if mine is a first edition and I CAN'T FIND IT!
Regards,
Martin
John Lunn wrote:
What is the difference?
Keith Whitman wrote:
OK, I'm sorry folks, but enough of the madness. It's just a book and I
can't believe that anybody would pay that much for this book
A guy I am coaching is signed up for Washington and was going to go with
a friend who is also running and they were both taking their wives and
families. Everybody has canceled out except for the guy I am coaching.
The funny thing is, the marathon and last week's 10 miler down there
will be and
A great post to tnfnorth.
Asked what Brannen's chances are if he is to go head to head with Webb
down the road in track, Warhurst does not waver.
I don't think he'll lose to him, he said
More at:
Very funny piece. He obviously took care of himself a little better than the
Hoons, Staleys and Cobains of the world.
Regards,
Martin
Cooper: When Wayne's World came out [in 1992], I was coaching 11- and
12-year-old kids, and we had a practice the Monday after the movie opened. The
kids were just
Even getting guys to run 120 miles a week, they just don't want to do
that.
Heck, Paula Radcliffe's amazing 2:17:18 time in last weekend's Chicago
marathon, a women's world record, has been surpassed by only three
Canadian men (Peter Fonseca, Graeme Fell, Bruce Deacon) in the past
decade.
70s attitude: We didn't think 2:14 was something to write home about.
One man's criticism is another man's commentary.
Regards,
Martin
malmo wrote:
No one is implying anything. Your criticism has no merit to stand on.
Simple stuff.
malmo
-Original Message-
From: Richard McCann
They have adjusted the chip times from yesterday to today. The 42nd place
finisher, for example, had a 25 second differential yesterday and now it is 5
seconds. The chip time has been increased.
Regards,
Martin
Post, Marty wrote:
I might have missed some of the follow-up conversation on this
Did he actually key on any of those races? It's the nature of the marathon
beast. I'm not saying that he deserves it. Just saying that I don't think all of
his performances can be evaluated the way they are in other events.
Regards,
Martin
Post, Marty wrote:
As much as I would like to see a
Ok gh I assume AOY is NOW a slam dunk.
Regards,
Martin
miscott wrote:
Excellent live updates on Runnersworld.com from the Chicago Marathon...
According to RW, Khannouchi notched yet another sub-2:06,
come-from-behind win, crossing the line in 2:05:55 (4th-fastest ever).
Culpepper is
That marathon time is equivalent to a 29:28(26:02 male) effort however which is
just under the WR. Based on this from Wejo, she has more in her:
As the above splits indicate, their 23rd mile was slow. When Weldon told her it
was 5:22 (he was looking at his watch a second ahead). She said, What?
coverage in the US (outside of Chicago or
satellite)...
Runner's World is giving updates during the race on their website, but it's
not the same!
Anybody know of any other live coverage options?
bob
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Regards,
Martin
Martin J. Dixon, B. Math. (Hons), C.A., Partner
Millard, Rouse
I realize that it is nice to keep accurate records but that is a 2:27
marathon pace. I suspect that Radcliffe has had faster tempo runs
Regards,
Martin
Post, Marty wrote:
Does anyone know the official time for Loroupe's 25,000m WR at
Mengerskirchen on September 21?
I have seen both
Uh Ed,
No one from Joisey should go anywhere near jokes about anybody else's voting
problems. Absentee ballets have already gone out with the Torch's name on
it-just for a start.
Ed Grant wrote:
. And
let;s not get into the state's voting problems.
Regards,
Martin
Run London 10-K
Richmond Park, London, GBR; Sunday, September 22
MEN -
1. Paul Kosgei, KEN 28:23
2. John Cheruiyot Korir, KEN 28:27
3. Luke Kipkosgei, KEN28:38
4. Jon Brown, GBR 28:40
5. Julius Kimtai, KEN 28:47
6. Hendrik Ramaala, RSA 28:50
Here we go again with the duplicate messages?
Regards,
Martin
USATF Communications wrote:
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Now I have 2 more messages from Tuesday-one from Ed Grant and one from
John Sun? They are duplicates.
Regards,
Martin
Mr. Pugh became track and field coach at the University of British
Columbia in 1964, transforming a mediocre program into one of the best
in the land. UBC teams won 25 Canada West titles in cross-country
running and track and field during his 23-year tenure. As well, 14 of
his student athletes
I don't agree if it displaces someone else. Although, obviously, in some cases
the particular national federation is in on the decision. Still not fair on an
athlete by athlete basis. I suspect if it happened in the UK, US and/or Canada,
there would be the same uproar as now. I can't speak for
My first reaction was that he must have been going for it. Must have
been. It was the World Cup after all. Turns out it was a pacing job. I
wonder if anyone else wanted to go?
Martin J. Dixon wrote:
Check out the 800 split. Some serious piano carrying happening here.
http://www.iaaf.org/WCP02
Nah. We never compare distance results. Some postings to this list. Why didn't
people that are all upset by the 100 analysis also come leaping to Ndereba's
defence. Radcliffe was nine seconds slower. Shouldn't that be the end of the
discussion?
Regards,
Martin
Her time of 2:18.56 was
hailed as
to decide if the assisted one counts as a record.
Dan
--- Martin J. Dixon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Nah. We never compare distance results. Some postings to this list. Why
didn't people that are all upset by the 100 analysis also come leaping
to
Ndereba's defence. Radcliffe was nine seconds
I believe the cadence for a reasonably fit runner is about 100 left foot strikes per
minute and this changes
very little no matter what the speed. So a runner going at a 7:00 pace(if my math is
right) would have a
stride length of 3 feet 9 inches.
Regards,
Martin
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
A cynic would probably have a ready explanation for the thinning sprinters
syndrome.
Regards,
Martin
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Listers,
I am sorry to hear of Bob Hayes's death. Growing up in the 1970's I learned
to think of Bob Hayes as the best sprinter ever, and his build (6', 190 lb,
It may not be scientific but people DO try to compare distance performances.
Compare Lopes' dismantling of the best runners of the world in the heat and
humidity of LA to the rabbited WR Rotterdam performances with perfect weather.
I don't need a slide rule to tell me what was more impressive.
How, specifically, does the latest discussion kill our sport? Now that this has been
going on for a couple of days, what do you predict will be the impact on attendance at
meets and television ratings? How, exactly, will this
phenomenon take place? If you can give me any kind of argument that
Props to Tim! He one fast dude!
Is that better?
I just did an informal survey of several people around my office:
Question-Did you know that the 100 meter record was recently broken?-most
answered yes
Question-Were you aware that there is an internet chat group that has been
dissecting the
may have as a world
class middle distance runner. Unless there is some reason to believe that he
has more aptitude as a marathoner than as a middle distance runner this is a
very foolish decision, in my opinion.
Martin J. Dixon wrote:
Here I go again being persnickety and nauseating
No but distance races in tough conditions are handicapped all the time to point out how
great a run they were despite the conditions. The knuckleheads don't play favourites.
Regards,
Martin
malmo wrote:
Tim Montgomery had ideal conditions and and ideal start. I don't get the point?
That's the
What Fred did with Bruce [Kidd], bringing up a young runner who could compete with
mature men,
changed running in the world. It was after that we saw the United States start to
produce really
talented people who could run world-class races right out of high school, such as Jim
Ryun and Steve
set back in 1962.
Mario
Quoting Martin J. Dixon [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
What Fred did with Bruce [Kidd], bringing up a young runner who could
compete with mature men,
changed running in the world. It was after that we saw the United States
start to produce really
talented people who could
Jericho Mile-1979. Strauss starred-Mann directed-pre Heat, Thief,
Manhunter(the first Hannibal Lector movie) and of course Miami Vice. Great
movie. The strains of Sympathy to the Devil can easily get you out the
door. Book-Once A Runner-the 400 repeats work-out is a classic. The
Olympian is
Unbelievable. Do people still fall for this stuff? Go here:
http://securityresponse.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/jdbgmgr.exe.file.hoax.html
Or here:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q322993
Tip-check this stuff out before forwarding on and send this type of message
back
Jerome Biffle? See below. Flipping through T and F News today and hadn't
really noticed the non-Chinese references before as they were used wrt
Paula. Maybe they were there. Is that an editorial comment on anything?
http://www.ex.ac.uk/cimt/data/olympics/olym1952.htm
Regards,
Martin
[EMAIL
would not consider a 5 K. along the harbour in downtown
Victoria (Capital of B.C., population of about 350,000, host City of the
1994 Commonwealth Games) out in the middle of nowhere.
Ron Bowker
At 02:37 PM 9/4/2002 -0400, Martin J. Dixon wrote:
I was trying not to offend anyone
No offense to the writers on this list but it seems like anytime I read a
newspaper article about which I am intimately familiar, the errors are numerous.
It makes me wonder about the articles I read about which I know nothing.
Regards,
Martin
Kurt Bray wrote:
story also says blood-doping
it and try to do better the next
time. You don't deflect the blame.
Regards,
Martin
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One other thing that our anonymous friend did other than making me fall for the
bait is that he selectively edited my statement. I said it seems like A
perception, in other words. But then SOME journalists(no one on this list!) will
use that trick too-take people out of context for their own
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Regards,
Martin
Martin J. Dixon, B. Math. (Hons), C.A., Partner
Millard, Rouse Rosebrugh LLP
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Someone else from his era:
Lausanne, Switzerland -- Sylvio de Magalhaes Padilha, a Brazilian sportsman and
former member of the International Olympic Committee, has died. He was 93.
Sylvio de Magalhaes Padilha was a wonderful athlete and a great sports leader
who contributed greatly to the
Someone on a list up here suggested a little tongue in check that Marion enter
the 400 in Berlin and her presence alone would be enough to psyche out Guevara.
Is that technically and practically possible? I suspect not even if she could
get into the race given that the 100 would probably be after
If they ever clean up baseball, they should just go back a few years and
reinstate all the home run records.
Ed Grant wrote:
Netters:
What is the proper penalty for an athlete detected to have used a
forbidden substance?
I would think it should include a total wipeout of
I wonder if this punk is proud of his vandalism.
Regards,
Martin
Hamilton, preparing for the GP Eddy Merckx, suffered a broken right
collarbone and facial injuries Sunday when a car driver opened his door just
as the rider was passing.
No particular point here. Someone will have to explain to that 10 year
old kid whose mother was struck and killed by a car while running in
single file, off the road and against traffic in Ellicottville N.Y. last
October that there isn't a lot of sympathy for her on this list.
LONDON (Reuters) -
Kevin and the IAAF might both be a little surprised that he dropped cross from
his schedule. Must have been an impostor at worlds last year.
http://www.iaaf.org/wxc01/results/data/M/XC/Rf.html
Regards,
Martin
Dan Kaplan wrote:
It seems to me that the runners who drop XC from their schedule
many would consider that a season
she is focusing on. Just guessing, but Sullivan would probably be in the
same category.
Besides, isn't this his least productive year since finishing college?
Dan
--- Martin J. Dixon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Kevin and the IAAF might both be a little
Maybe you're right although I doubt it but IMHO, those manipulations will make
you more productive so you can get even more out of what ever ride lies before
you even if that is hoisting a lot of 12 ouncers. No forget IMHO. That is a
self-evident truth.
Regards,
Martin
ghill wrote:
If you got
I don't know if it is apropos of anything but that is when swimmers seem to hit
their peak.
Regards,
Martin
Michael Contopoulos wrote:
If you think about it, it makes sense that a
runner, if he started early enough and hard enough, would be at his prime in
his late teens to mid 20s.
I think I may have just stumbled on to the problem.
Regards,
Martin
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address book accordingly.
Joe Henderson wrote about the distance class of 72 in his weekly
column and he says that he was able to account for everybody except Bob
Wheeler. Anyone know?
The only Olympian I can't account for is 1500 man Bob
Wheeler.
Regards,
Martin
This guy got around.
Regards,
Martin
Beginning in 1908, Rodman Wanamaker, son of the store owner, sponsored a series
of Expeditions to the American Indian
http://www.indiana.edu/~mathers/new/collections/photos/wanamake.html
Bloomquist, Bret wrote:
Well, I looked itnto it more. Yes, same
There was a dual between GB and Ger on 20/07 that went 73/2:29/3:30/4:09 and it
was a 1500 so it wouldn't surprise me.
Regards,
Martin
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I sure hope that 1500 was a mile!
Fred Finke
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Martin
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I don't know how long this has been generally known but tnfnorth and
letsrun have both noted that Schiebler will be running NY this fall.
There is more at:
http://www.runnerschoice.com/ontario/stwm/stwmnews.htm
His 27:36 merciers out to 2:08:35 and he has the experience in the half.
Should be
Maybe her bathing habits might be a more appropriate topic then?
The immediate sensation is quite devastating. Ten minutes? Within six
seconds I am doing laps of the hotel room, shouting obscenities at the
ceiling and grasping my withered manhood with shaking hands.
with a clearance of
4.51m/14-9.50.
I don't know the first thing about the PV but that looks a smidgen high.
Regards,
Martin
USATF Communications wrote:
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(317)
Isn't the problem though that the low levels could just be higher levels that have
been reduced as the stuff passes through his system? How do they know it isn't?
Regards,
Martin
ghill wrote:
From: Kurt Bray [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Kurt Bray [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2002
Ah to live in the good ol' U S of A. there would be a few different outcomes.
1. The kid would likely be able to compete.
2. He would likely get off.
3. We would probably never hear about it.
Instead, the Canadian list gets to throw this stuff around at each other:
for you to recklessly call
THE DIVAS OF track are tenors, not sopranos. They are the Y chromosome
sprinters the great drama queens, the primo donnas. Thoroughbreds,
both skittish and imperious. And oh so bitchy.
Stumbled across this from the AP.
Regards,
Martin
Gold-medal winner at 1932 Olympics
Framingham, Mass. -- Mary Crew Armstrong, who won a gold medal at the
1932 Olympics as a member of the record-setting U.S. 400-metre relay
team, died July 12 at age 88.
Ms. Armstrong was 15 years old when
with a
conservative analysis and actually backing that point up with some facts(sans
profanity).
Regards,
Martin
Mike Prizy wrote:
Half to his agent? Probably more in the range of 15 percent. Hopefully he does your
investment deal.
I just think he's got more beer money.
Martin J. Dixon wrote
http://www.washtimes.com/sports/20020718-16634094.htm
malmo wrote:
Nope. malmo thinks the amount should cover the risk he takes if/when the slimy
John Waters types (agents/shoe geeks) turn their backs on him if/when he becomes
just another runner.
malmo thinks that amount is all fantasy in
,
Martin
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http://www.iaaf.org/gp02/GP1Stockholm/Results/byevent.html
Bobby Van Allen wrote:
do you know where these results are being posted at all. Is this gonna be
televised eventually somewhere in the US
Bobby
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Further to previous messages, the exact press release. No mention of her
legal team yet.
Regards,
Martin
14 July 2002
Further to media reports today, UK Athletics wishes to confirm the
following in relation to current anti-doping cases.
Janine WHITLOCK
* Date of test-
The lesson of all of this is that Ben should have phoned his lawyers instead of
gone home. As far as Slaney goes, don't make me laugh. There is no difference
between her and Ben. They are both cheats. Ben took it like a man and
Mary-well...she is still crying about 1984 let alone the drug test.
Actually, there is nothing wrong with that performance if all the facts are at
your disposal. He only started doing a bit of mileage and light workouts a
month ago after recovering from an undiagnosed stress fracture that he has had
since the indoor season. We should all come off an injury so
10.49.
Regards,
Martin
ps-no one is trying to rehabilitate Ben. Take a look at the Can list
archives if you want to see people eating their young. As recently as
last year, someone suggested burning in hell wasn't a good enough
punishment. The exact quote: In my tamer and more accepting
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Jonas,
Your point is very well taken but lost on(some of) this bunch. Until the US
and other countries are willing to go through the same self-induced rectal
examination as the Dubin inquiry was, they are not credible. You weren't
onlist yet but when Pound started to rattle a few chains, some on
Do a Dubin. Take it out of the hands of the sporting bodies. Steroids are
getting more and more play in the media. Time to have a congressional inquiry.
Everybody knows who is/was likely dirty. Subpoena them or other witnesses
familiar with them to testify under penalty of perjury. Let them take
A strangely coincidental posting to the Can list.
Regards,
Martin
Subject: TF Speed Seminar in Vancouver
Date:Fri, 12 Jul 2002 16:12:35 -0700
From: Derek M. Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For any interested individuals residing in Western Canada:
about Ben Johnson which is really what started this.
Regards,
Martin
Mike Prizy wrote:
This was done once before. I believe it was called Salem Witch Trials.
Martin J. Dixon wrote:
.
Everybody knows who is/was likely dirty. Subpoena them or other witnesses familiar
with them to
testify
http://www.athleticsalberta.com/2002_Nationals/RESULTS/results.htm
Regards,
Martin
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
anybody got the URL of a site where the results were posted?
thanx
gh
testing.
Actually, last week's ruling had no impact. It had already been ruled
awhile back that athletes could be tested - the Supreme Court just extended
testing to the chess team and debate club last week.
Phil
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Regards,
Martin
Martin J. Dixon, B. Math. (Hons), C.A., Partner
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It was suggested off-list that perhaps he finally got a pay-off. Nah
Regards,
Martin
Jonas Mureika wrote:
What ever happened to the supposed release of documents over the weekend,
concerning the USATF cases? These were supposed to have been made public
on Saturday, but I've heard
Here is a Died This Day bit that was in the Globe today that I found
interesting for a couple of reasons. I'm sure GH will be able to add
some other personal reminiscences!
Regards,
Martin
George Orton, 1958
Athlete born Strathroy, Ont., Jan 10, 1873; won Canadian and American
mile titles in
Right on the colour of the medal, wrong on the citizenship. At least according
to the following provided in response to the same posting to the Can list by Ian
Reid. The paper has been duly notified.
Regards,
Martin
Details of the duel meet will be announced shortly.
Regards,
Martin
Subject: TF The other National Championships
Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2002 11:28:16 -0600
From: William F. Donahue [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On a warm and windy night, 24 intrepid runners faced off at Rolly Mills
Is someone privy to his deals? Let's say he was paid the same as Kobe and Tiger
then what say you? Some people seem to be strictly looking at the dollars. Take
it off the table because we don't know. He thinks he has a good coach who won't
screw it up like some people think is going to happen. He
for his education? I think one more year of college running
would have done
wonders for his development - above as well as below his shoulders.
Two years of college seemed to work well for Carl Lewis.
Martin J. Dixon wrote:
Is someone privy to his deals? Let's say he was paid the same as Kobe
And the people talking about money are arguing against themselves in any event. Old
story:
Man to beautiful woman in bar: Will you sleep with me for a million dollars?
Beautiful woman: Of course.
Man: Will you sleep with me for a dollar?
Beautiful woman: Of course not. What do you think I am-some
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