t-and-f: Pseudo-techno-crap

I'm glad to be able to post Mr Norton's email as he suggests. P N H == Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Envelope-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 18:26:50 -0500 From: Giles Norton [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76

t-and-f: Pseudo-techno-crap

1. This is a commercial advertisement and as such is expessely forbidden by this list charter. Mr Entine has sailed near the wind and been roundly condemned by many on this list (while Mr Scott Davis has clearly infringed and continues to get away with it.) But this is blatant touting for

Re: t-and-f: long jump

The IAAF handbook for 1965-66 said (at rule 148.4.d): Records in field events must be measured by three field judges with a certified steel tape graduated in centimetres, or by a scientific apparatus . . . . Measurements for world records for field events must be MADE [my emphasis] and submitted

t-and-f: Long jump with a flip

Some more, for those interested in a little US/NZ history. When John Delamere jumped 25' 63/4 at the 1974 Pacific Conference meet he tied with Randy Williams, the reigning Olympic champ. He did not just wow the crowd; the officials at the pit suddenly became speechless. John's best legal jump

t-and-f: Even RARER books for sale

Scott Davis calls into question the honesty of my advertisement for a certain copy of Archie's Little Black Book 1959. That must be answered. Mr Richardson wrote a personal message in some copies acknowledging the addressee's part in a committee that conducted an international

t-and-f: Even RARER books for sale

FOR SALE Archie's Little Black Book, 1953 Edition - S, XF, 100 pgs., RARE (signed by Archie - which he did for every copy sold). New price $1.00 AND Archie's Little Black Book, 1959 Edition - S, XF. 90 pgs.THIS COPY IS NOT MERELY RARE, BUT UNIQUE AND

t-and-f: Women's decathlon?

The event is now recognised as official by the IAAF, Roger. Apparently the first world records will be ratified after 2003 December 31 when the event has settled down. If you intend holding a competition, it is worth mentioning that the new table for the 100m (women) has become garbled.

t-and-f: 9.85w by Fredericks

important to keep the historical record straight, and I hope this will help to do so. P N Heidenstrom

t-and-f: 9.85w by Fredericks

On Sun, 26 May 2002 17:57:23 -0500 Wayne T. Armbrust [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: P N Heidenstrom wrote: The work of Nick Linthorne has been extended by that of Tony Ward-Smith in Britain. Neither included combined wind+altitude conversions in his published papers. The only researcher who did

t-and-f: Mime-Version: 1.0

The work of Nick Linthorne has been extended by that of Tony Ward-Smith in Britain. Neither included combined wind+altitude conversions in his published papers. The only researcher who did is Jesus Dapena (Indiana U.) Tables based on his research appeared in TFN's LITTLE Green Book.

t-and-f: No M40 record for Danny Martinez

Anyone who is so uncertain of his opinions (or himself) that he must hide behind an alias is not worth listening to at any time. When he is a sniper as well, it is a blot on this list and those who allow it. P N Heidenstrom = previously on t-and-f :- Date: Mon

t-and-f: Relay bulges

them work out their own bulges in fear and trembling. If there are any replies, a summary of them will be posted later, or individual summaries will be sent to respondents. Please reply direct to me, not to the list. P N Heidenstrom

t-and-f: Now if more people had balls like these . . . .

Agence France-Presse LIEVEN, France (February 21, 2002 02:12 PM EST) - The controversial Russian distance runner Olga Yegorova has not been invited to run in Sunday's indoor athletics meeting because she failed to meet the organizers' family-friendly criteria. A French promoter has also hit on

t-and-f: We don't got no winner!

Ah, but who was the first Afro-American to run the mile in a world record time? Why we don't got no winner? Maybe no-one don't know. Maybe no-one don't care. Maybe there ain't never been one, and John Entine's theory is right. Play it again, John.

t-and-f: Running afoul of copyright?

is just as much a thief as one who steals money or goods. Moreover, if authors spend time, skill, or money to inform or entertain us only to see their work pirated by freeloaders, they will be less ready to share it with us in the future, or even to produce it at all. Then we all lose. P N

t-and-f: We have a winner!

Ah, but who was the first Afro-American to run the mile in a world record time?

t-and-f: Flo-Jo and the 10.49

FLO-JO AND THE LEGEND OF THE 10.49 The story so far: At the US final Olympic tryouts at Indianapolis in 1988 Florence Griffith Joiner lowered the world record for 100m from 10.76 to 10.49. Others in that and the next quarterfinal also turned in superfast times. The wind reading in both

t-and-f: Guns silenced in China

Somebody wrote: Okay, so there weren't any world records at the Chinese National Games. Not even in the heats? Why not? - that horse's ass, P.N. from New Zealand - M M Rohl

t-and-f: sectors

On Thu, 13 Sep 2001 11:33:31 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote (in part): page 59: IAAF is reducing the discus and hammer sectors from a 40 degree arc to 34.92 degrees. Un-huh. Okay, what wise-ass TFN clerk slipped that one in? An arc measured in a HUNDREDTH OF A DEGREE??? Hah! You're six months

t-and-f: U.S. appeal successful

On Sun, 12 Aug 2001 09:13:57 -0400 malmo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But to the point: 1) There is no steps rule. 2) Where there is a material advantage gained (stepping inside on the turn) there will be a DQ 3) Where there is no material advantage gained (stepping inside/outside on the

t-and-f: Access

On Sat, 4 Aug 2001 06:43:28 -0400 John Dye [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Subject: RE: t-and-f: Access And how is your Model T Ford holding up these days? Comment: --- It may look like a Model T but it's really a NZ design with few moving parts, does a thousand km to the litre, has never needed

t-and-f: Access

On Mon, 30 Jul 2001 18:59:31 -0400 John Dye [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Subject: RE: t-and-f: Access Break the minutes and seconds into different fields. Convert everything to seconds for ranking purposes and then put it back in minutes and seconds format for display and reporting purposes.

t-and-f: Dept of useless information

After Sebrle set his world decathlon record last month his marks were converted in terms of some of the earlier scoring tables, but (if memory serves) not for all of them. For the sake of the record (alias the department of useless information) here is the full set. The year is the one when the

t-and-f: Automatic timing

On Fri, 1 Jun 2001 10:36:09 -0700 (PDT) Dan Kaplan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote, quoting Charlie Francis' book, Speed Trap, . . . But in 1968, when the IAAF began to make the transition from hand to electronic timing, it bungled the job. As an electronic clock would start the instant the gun was

t-and-f: re: automatic timing in 1 9 5 2

On Sun, 03 Jun 2001 16:28:12 +0300 (IDT) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Subject: Re: t-and-f: Automatic timing in 1 9 5 2 Not in 1952! The hand timing in 1952 was horrible! Look up Bob Sparks' deciphering of ET . the quartet of runners given 10.4 and the two (Sukhraev, treloar) given 10.5 in the

Re: t-and-f: Genetics

for those who care about the survival of this list. Yes. Quoting from a book IS trying to sell it, if the book is your own and you are urging people to get it. Mr Smith has never done that, nor has anyone else - except Mr Entine - in the seven years I have been a subscriber. P N Heidenstrom

Re: t-and-f: Genetics

At 21:03 01.05.06, Michael Rohl wrote: Mr Heidenstrom, you are wrong(again.) Mr.Entine long ago stopped trying to sell his book on his list. (snip) You contributed nothing of substance too the conversation and managed to insult Mr. Entine. Comment: The last two digests I have received

t-and-f: Kerbless tracks

Sorry, but this discussion is getting off the "rails". Cones are NOT legal, except to replace part of a kerb which has been temporarily removed for a field event (such as a javelin runway), or where there is a diversion for the steeplechase. Tracks without kerbs are ILLEGAL unless they are

t-and-f: Gerry Lindgren (WAS World XC)

The race was in 1965, and Lindgren's time (for three miles) was 13:04.02. When converted to 5000m using the Portuguese Tables (arguably the world's best at that stage) the time became 13:33.6. But ten months later he ran 12:53.0 at Seattle, equivalent to 13:22.2. Pretty good even today, they

t-and-f: Reaction time (WAS unsportsmanlike conduct)

Right! And I've never felt comfortable with the rumour that reaction is always equal and opposite to action - because the next action to come around the bend may contradict Newton's notion. Scientists can never "prove" anything because ultimately all science (meaning knowledge) depends on

t-and-f: re: 'Real' cheats prosper claims drugs chief

This seems to me to be one of the most basic principles of justice - it just can't be right to punish accidental and deliberate drug taking exactly the same way. Surely. Can it? There's a third way of committing an offence - negligence. It can be punished in law just as severely as the

t-and-f: Mime-Version: 1.0

In a message dated Tue, 23 Jan 2001 13:14:54 EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: an attempt to regain its position as one of the world's leading producers of distance talent, New Zealand has adopted the Kenyan model, starting with the procedures used to issue birth certificates and passports.

t-and-f: AW athletes of the year

On Fri, 29 Dec 2000 00:54:21 - [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: "Netters "What can I say? "The British publication Athletics Weekly has named Robert Korzeniowski and "Marion Jones as Athletes of the Year." Someone could say that it was a split decision on Korzeniowski. Four of the

t-and-f: Our kind of posts

Wasn't it a BBC announcer who commented at the presentation of trophies after an Oxford-Cambridge boat race, "Now isn't that sweet. The wife of the Cambridge captain is kissing the cox of the Oxford crew." previously on this show: Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 09:40:41

t-and-f: The ugly Australian

Garry Hill wrote: Isn't that [marooning all the crims on a desert island and letting them slug it out . . .] how we got Australia? I thought you as a Kiwi would realize that! gh -- Yeah, we used to point that out. But not now that all the Ocker icons are really

t-and-f: re: interesting article on changes in the walks

ng members of this forum. Assuredly lots of us would like to have a say. If the idea worked, it could then be extended to the athletes who take performance-enhancing drugs. They could be made to cheat each other instead of cheating those who don't bend the rules. P N Heidenstrom

Re: t-and-f: interesting article on changes in the walks

At 07:02 00.12.18, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (1) This is not true. [i.e. that the first 18 finishers in the Sydney 50k were breaking contact at every stride coming into the stadium.] It is futile to bleat "not true". It is on tape. Go and look at it. (2) Again you are wrong. The "cause" of

t-and-f: re: Once was 5 positive names from 1988

hibitively expensive, or legally proscribed. It may not even be a solution at all. But would it not be a good idea to suspend your judgement until I tell you what it is? P N Heidenstrom

t-and-f: once was 5 positive names from 1988

s loquacious of them), before further exploring what changes could be made, and how they might solve the present problems. Replies to the list, please. P N Heidenstrom

t-and-f: Antics at Sydney

As a non-American, may I to some extent defend the "antics" of the US sprint relay team at Sydney, and ask the critics to take them a bit easier - especially in light of the following post: Some years ago I gave up watching what Americans call "Football" and Basketball in disgust at the

t-and-f: Capel's start

y had a very limited understanding of international rules. P N Heidenstrom

t-and-f: Re: Capel's start, Korzeniowski's walk

About Capel's start in the 200 final, Michael Casey wrote: All true, BUT HOW can Capel or the US complain as it was HIS transgression which was alowwed pass??? HIS fault alone MIke COMMENT: Rule 146 does not bar appeals from athletes who transgress. But did he transgress? The

t-and-f: Greene on fire in Sydney

technique is almost certainly wrong! For anyone who finds these results hard to believe, full details are available. The tests were done with a satellite-controlled clock having an r.m.s. accuracy of 1/10,000,000 second. P N Heidenstrom

Re: t-and-f: Adjusted 200s

-- Jonas Mureika wrote: On Fri, 4 Aug 2000, P. N. Heidenstrom wrote: On Wed, 2 Aug 2000 Jonas Mureika wrote (inter alia): Careful: you can't apply the calculation to the 200m. It only applies to straight races: 50m, 60m, 100m. --