RE: t-and-f: Regionals

2001-04-16 Thread Mcewen, Brian T
set back the NCAA championship meet by a week or two -- where it used to be. [Booming Ed McMahon voice]: YEEHHSS! You are correct, sir! HEH-Heh. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, April 13, 2001 4:17 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: t-and-f: regionals won't kill the NCAA schedule

2001-04-15 Thread Richard McCann
Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 01:39:44 EDT From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: t-and-f: regionals won't kill the NCAA schedule Well, the USC-UCLA meet has traditionally been the first Saturday in May, and the weather has generally been pretty good for it. Moving it a week earlier would probably

Re: t-and-f: regionals won't kill the NCAA schedule

2001-04-14 Thread Trey Jackson
Excuse me, but what percentage of the time when a gun is fired at Penn is there even the theoretical possibility of an NCAA qualifying mark being recorded? While I cannot answer to Division I (and I know that a lot of the list members believe that DI is the only real track and field division

Re: t-and-f: Regionals

2001-04-14 Thread Ed Dana Parrot
Dan wrote: The problem with that being the head to head competition in track and field as opposed to golf. If you let local runners into a meet who wouldn't normally be there, they are most likely going to get beaten handily. In golf it isn't as easy to see because Johnny Local and Tiger

Re: t-and-f: regionals won't kill the NCAA schedule

2001-04-14 Thread GHTFNedit
In a message dated Fri, 13 Apr 2001 11:26:20 PM Eastern Daylight Time, "denise lockett" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I just don't understand all the whining about a change that seems so clearly positive from the point of view of encouraging competition. Because you've uncovered one of the

Re: t-and-f: regionals won't kill the NCAA schedule

2001-04-14 Thread GHTFNedit
In a message dated Sat, 14 Apr 2001 1:47:11 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Well, the USC-UCLA meet has traditionally been the first Saturday in May, and the weather has generally been pretty good for it. Moving it a week earlier would probably invite poorer weather.

Re: t-and-f: regionals won't kill the NCAA schedule

2001-04-14 Thread GGPYNES
Have to agree. Certainly thre will be some wrinkles and bugs to work out as folks absorb the change. Big thing is it may help pump a bit of life into college track which has been moving toward terminal for a long time. We can't achieve March Madness but at least this may help get more notice

Re: t-and-f: regionals won't kill the NCAA schedule

2001-04-14 Thread Jack Moran
I just don't understand all the whining about a change that seems so clearly positive from the point of view of encouraging competition. Because you've uncovered one of the sport's dirty little secrets: everybody is more interested in protecting their own teeny little bit of turf than

Re: t-and-f: Regionals

2001-04-14 Thread Ryan Grote
-collegiate track, all of it. People should be happy to get whatever scholarships or money they get, as its basically just charity. Grote adiRP/MMRD - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 13, 2001 8:18 PM Subject: Re: t-and-f

Re: t-and-f: regionals won't kill the NCAA schedule

2001-04-14 Thread GHTFNedit
In a message dated Sat, 14 Apr 2001 1:13:27 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Jack Moran [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If "fostering the sport as a whole" means enhancing the NCAA Championships, I would have to agree. But, pardon my provincialism if I find conference championships -- with their true

RE: t-and-f: Regionals

2001-04-14 Thread Edward Koch
My understanding is that the NCAA meet will be a week later with the Regionals two weekends before. Thus the conference meets would only have to be a week ealier to be two weekends before Regionals. If the rest of the west coast schedule also goes a week earlier (including Mt.SAC) there would

Re: t-and-f: Regionals

2001-04-13 Thread GHTFNedit
In a message dated Fri, 13 Apr 2001 4:24:51 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It seems to me that the simplest way to solve most of the problems involving regionals would be to set back the NCAA championship meet by a week or two -- where it used to be. the

Re: t-and-f: Regionals oops

2001-04-13 Thread GHTFNedit
i missed one: the latest nationals ever was June 22-23 of 1934. The first time the meet was ever held with competition in May didn't come until 1977. gh

Re: t-and-f: Regionals

2001-04-13 Thread Ed Dana Parrot
gh wrote: One thing we can hope for is that the pushing back of the NCAA will also force the USATF meetwhere it should be, even later in the year. Like the last week of June, or even in July. Which would then make it easier to create a nationwide set of local and regional meets - with the

Re: t-and-f: Regionals

2001-04-13 Thread Randy Treadway
Another question - when do the various national championships of the European countries occur? And when do the Kenyan nationals occur? The third or fourth week of July, when the European circuit pretty much "shuts down" to allow athletes to return to their home countries for their NC's. And

Re: t-and-f: Regionals

2001-04-13 Thread Paul Banta
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 13, 2001 3:33 PM Subject: Re: t-and-f: Regionals The answer for the collegiate athletes: if you're not good enough to go to Europe (or can't accept any prize money), here's the opportunity for USATF to set up a USATF Tier II Grand Prix circuit from m

Re: t-and-f: Regionals

2001-04-13 Thread Ed Dana Parrot
What about the existing U.S. IAAF meets? They are at the beginning of the IAAF season, right? So a U.S. athlete will run the U.S. meets before going to Europe. Then, head over to Europe for 4-5 weeks, then back for USATF nationals during the break. No extra trips to Europe and gives athletes

Re: t-and-f: Regionals

2001-04-13 Thread Ed Dana Parrot
Another question - when do the various national championships of the European countries occur? And when do the Kenyan nationals occur? The third or fourth week of July, when the European circuit pretty much "shuts down" to allow athletes to return to their home countries for their NC's.

RE: t-and-f: Regionals

2001-04-13 Thread malmo
during the summer, whether the U.S. Champs changes dates or not. Paul Banta adidas Oregon Track Classic 503-620-4052 www.oregontrackclassic.com - Original Message - From: "Randy Treadway" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 13, 2001 3:33 PM Subj

Re: t-and-f: Regionals

2001-04-13 Thread NPM2RUN
Ed- (and list) your problem here is you think it is the NCAA's( and schools themselves) job's to get these kids ready for International comp?? GET REAL, this list is so off base when they talk about this stuff, it isnt funny. If those 100 or more kids want to start in mid may that is fine,

Re: t-and-f: Regionals

2001-04-13 Thread Randy Treadway
On Fri, 13 Apr 2001 20:18:46 EDT, you wrote: While most schools love the press that having an athlete of theirs make the Olympic team or such gets them, don't think for a second that school Ad's or presidents give two shits what USATF wants or does. Agreed. So why should USATF bend itself into

Re: t-and-f: Regionals

2001-04-13 Thread Ed Dana Parrot
On Fri, 13 Apr 2001 20:18:46 EDT, you wrote: While most schools love the press that having an athlete of theirs make the Olympic team or such gets them, don't think for a second that school Ad's or presidents give two shits what USATF wants or does. and RT wrote: So why should USATF bend

Re: t-and-f: regionals won't kill the NCAA schedule

2001-04-13 Thread Tyler51086
Well, the USC-UCLA meet has traditionally been the first Saturday in May, and the weather has generally been pretty good for it. Moving it a week earlier would probably invite poorer weather. The Pac-10 Championships have indeed been only 10 days before the NCAA Championships, and it has