Re: t-and-f: Fw: NYT - Felix, 18, Is Still Making the Adjustment From High School Star to Professional

2004-07-07 Thread Dan Kaplan
--- Bob Duncan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't believe many people are going to believe that Ryun was a drug cheat, nor JJK, who is a spokesperson for various asthma foundations. Why not, because they're idols? You could throw Marion Jones into that category, as well, but she seems to be

t-and-f: Fw: NYT - Felix, 18, Is Still Making the Adjustment From High School Star to Professional

2004-07-06 Thread Christopher Goss
July 6, 2004 Felix, 18, Is Still Making the Adjustment From High School Star to Professional By LIZ ROBBINS Pat Connolly took Allyson Felix, her quiet young sprinter, to the well-trodden track at Santa Monica College last month to train with two Olympic luminaries. It was not the first time

Re: t-and-f: Fw: NYT - Felix, 18, Is Still Making the Adjustment From High School Star to Professional

2004-07-06 Thread Wayne T. Armbrust
Interesting the number of athletes who need inhalers. Do you suppose it is out of proportion to the general population, and if so, why :-) Christopher Goss wrote: July 6, 2004 Felix, 18, Is Still Making the Adjustment From High School Star to Professional By LIZ ROBBINS Felix filled out the

Re: t-and-f: Fw: NYT - Felix, 18, Is Still Making the Adjustment From High School Star to Professional

2004-07-06 Thread Bob Duncan
Interesting the number of athletes who need inhalers. Do you suppose it is out of proportion to the general population, and if so, why :-) Maybe we inhale too much dirty air. But seriously, I don't think the medication would give you any advantage. I've been asthmatic most of my life and had a

Re: t-and-f: Fw: NYT - Felix, 18, Is Still Making the Adjustment From High School Star to Professional

2004-07-06 Thread William Bahnfleth
I suppose the answer depends on the type of asthma. I'd have to assume that exercise induced asthma seems more prevalent in athletes because they subject their respiratory systems to the conditions that trigger it. However, a lot more people have asthma than in the fairly recent past.

RE: t-and-f: Fw: NYT - Felix, 18, Is Still Making the Adjustment From High School Star to Professional

2004-07-06 Thread malmo
Doesn't give you an advantage? Think again. Remember Dr Smulovitz, the Eugene endocrinologist who supplied many of Eugene's runners steroids in the 70s and 80s? In the 90s I know of many athletes who where being treated by him for asthma. A sudden breakout of inhalers for a small cabal of

Re: t-and-f: Fw: NYT - Felix, 18, Is Still Making the Adjustment From High School Star to Professional

2004-07-06 Thread Dan Kaplan
--- Bob Duncan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But seriously, I don't think the medication would give you any advantage. It's been documented that there are some pretty serious advantages to non-asthmatics taking asthma medications. I think it was 98% of Ironman (?) triathletes were registered

Re: t-and-f: Fw: NYT - Felix, 18, Is Still Making the Adjustment From High School Star to Professional

2004-07-06 Thread Wayne T. Armbrust
I was being cynical. Don't you think that some athletes get physicians to prescribe inhalers when they aren't necessary, so they can legally take a stimulant? Bob Duncan wrote: Maybe we inhale too much dirty air. But seriously, I don't think the medication would give you any advantage. I've

RE: t-and-f: Fw: NYT - Felix, 18, Is Still Making the Adjustment From High School Star to Professional

2004-07-06 Thread malmo
I think it's more of the pill for every ill syndrome. 40 years ago were normal mentally healthy people taking Prozac? Ritalin? Did kids have ADD when I was in school? malmo -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wayne T. Armbrust Sent:

Re: t-and-f: Fw: NYT - Felix, 18, Is Still Making the Adjustment From High School Star to Professional

2004-07-06 Thread Bob Duncan
malmo wrote: Doesn't give you an advantage? Think again. Remember Dr Smulovitz, the Eugene endocrinologist who supplied many of Eugene's runners steroids in the 70s and 80s? In the 90s I know of many athletes who where being treated by him for asthma. A sudden breakout of inhalers for a

Re: t-and-f: Fw: NYT - Felix, 18, Is Still Making the Adjustment From High School Star to Professional

2004-07-06 Thread koala
Between 1980 and 1994, the prevalence of asthma in the U.S. increased 75% overall and 74% among children 5-14 years of age. Probably a more accurate statement would be that the diagnosis of asthma by doctors increased 75%. That doesn't necessarily mean that there was a sudden epidemic, or even

Re: t-and-f: Fw: NYT - Felix, 18, Is Still Making the Adjustment From High School Star to Professional

2004-07-06 Thread Bob Duncan
Those would be impressive examples if they were legit, but chances are quite strong most, if not all, of them were bogus prescriptions for performance enhancing reasons. I don't believe many people are going to believe that Ryun was a drug cheat, nor JJK, who is a spokesperson for various

Re: t-and-f: Fw: NYT - Felix, 18, Is Still Making the Adjustment From High School Star to Professional

2004-07-06 Thread William Bahnfleth
I had my cynicism detector turned off when I read your reply, too. Perhaps it's saturated with pre-Olympic publicity. I've been watching the Tour de France (now there's a clean sport for you) for the past few days. One of the commentators was mourning the DQ of David Millar on an EPO bust

Re: t-and-f: Fw: NYT - Felix, 18, Is Still Making the Adjustment From High School Star to Professional

2004-07-06 Thread Dan Kaplan
--- Bob Duncan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I still don't believe that a truly asthmatic athlete on medication will gain an advantage over a non-asthmatic athlete. That's an entirely separate question, and unless it can be confirmed that these questionable and numerous asthma diagnoses are legit,

Re: t-and-f: Fw: NYT - Felix, 18, Is Still Making the Adjustment From High School Star to Professional

2004-07-06 Thread Bob Duncan
malmo wrote: I think it's more of the pill for every ill syndrome. 40 years ago were normal mentally healthy people taking Prozac? Ritalin? Did kids have ADD when I was in school? Amen. There is a level of expectation that medication is the cure for everything, with the drug companies reaping