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>> "Wayne T. Armbrust" wrote:
>> > "Post, Marty" wrote:
>> > > Is this the first time in a
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>Do I have to give you guys the answer? It's the Goodwill Games for
>Chr
Geoff Pietsch wrote:
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>Unless I've missed (i.e,deleted) some posts on this, no one seems to
> address the obvious reason why it makes no sense for the whole field to run
> a very slow pace. Did every one of them really believe he had the fastest
> kick? Didn't some of them realize they cou
Alan Shank; Wayne T. Armbrust
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> What's wrong with racing at a slow pace?
> John Bale
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What's wrong with racing at a slow pace?
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ducted without
cat-and-mouse tactics.
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>> The question I have for this particular
In this professional era we seem to have forgotten
what track and field is really about. I'd like to
quote a report of a 3-mile race between Murray Halberg
and Bill Baillie, two of Arthur Lydiard's earliest
pupils and both world record holders. It was a race of
absolutely no importance, but the m
>> The question I have for this particular race is: why? What's the point of
>> everyone running like that? I don't get it.
>>
>> As it is, this race reminds me of those absurd bicycle velodrome races where
>> they creep around the track at a near standstill and then burst into a
>> furious spri
"Wayne T. Armbrust" wrote:
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> "Post, Marty" wrote:
>
> > Is this the first time in any major international competition where the
> > men's gold medal winning performance has been slower than the women's???
> >
>
> Did they run two extra laps or something?
No, they read the thread on this list
.
Do these guys have to go slow when there is no rabbit?
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From: Post, Marty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 1:01 PM
To: 't-and-f@darkwing. uoregon. edu' (E-mail)
Subject: t-and-f: Goodwill 5000 results
GWG 5000 results com
Marty posted the following info:
>15:26.10/13:00.10 - 1. Paul Bitok
>15:26.61/12:56.50 - 2. Luke Kipkosgei
>15:26.63/12:59.97 - 3. John Kibowen
>15:26.70/12:58.57 - 4. Hailu Mekonnen
>15:27.94/12:54.07 - 5. Sammy Kipketer
>15:28.00/12:56.72 - 6. Richard Limo
>15:30.51/12:59.39 - 7. Million Wo
Kurt Bray wrote:
>
> The question I have for this particular race is: why? What's the point of
> everyone running like that? I don't get it.
>
> As it is, this race reminds me of those absurd bicycle velodrome races where
> they creep around the track at a near standstill and then burst into a
Too bad there were no American entrants. They could've hung on until a lap remained,
at least. Heck, Brandon Leslie might've even been able to stay with them until the
bell.
sideshow
GWG 5000 results compared with athlete's PR. Ironically Bitok had the
slowest and only non-sub 13 minutes (barely) PR:
15:26.10/13:00.10 - 1. Paul Bitok
15:26.61/12:56.50 - 2. Luke Kipkosgei
15:26.63/12:59.97 - 3. John Kibowen
15:26.70/12:58.57 - 4. Hailu Mekonnen
15:27.94/12:54.07 - 5. Sammy Ki
In a message dated Thu, 6 Sep 2001 12:01:01 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
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> OK, GH and the others who praised the World Indoor jog and sprint for its drama -
>does the drama still hold when it plays out over 14 minutes before
anything happens, instead of 3?>>
At the ris
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> Anybody who thinks times have to be fast for a race to
> be meaningful don't appreciate the sport to the fullest.
If you want real drama, skip the first 14 minutes of the fun run, play
chicken in the street with some big trucks, then come back and watch an
open 400m
>> From an AP report on the GWG 5000:
>>
>> "The track and field program at the Goodwill Games witnessed probably the
>> slowest 5,000-meter men's race in a major championship.
...
>
> Farce?! I'd pay good money to see a race like this any day of the week. Had
> far more going for it than any o
Garry says:
>Anybody who thinks times have to be fast for a race to be meaningful don't
>appreciate the sport to the fullest.
I don't think a race has to be particularly fast to be exciting (heck, I can
get a lot of enjoyment out of a competitive middle school girls' race), but
I would like t
<<< Farce?! I'd pay good money to see a race like this any day of the week.
>>>
Come to my local track, any weeknight. My friends and I will be glad to
provide a thrilling 7-man duel over 12.5 laps. We will be happy to run 2.5
minutes off our PR's, with an ungodly-fast last lap, and a winner wh
>From an AP report on the GWG 5000:
>Then, they picked up the pace a little with two laps
>remaining, before going to an all-out sprint over the final 400 meters,
>which was run in 51 seconds - extraordinarily fast for a 5,000-meter race.
Except that, of course, it wasn't a 5,000 meter race.
> From an AP report on the GWG 5000:
>
> "The track and field program at the Goodwill Games witnessed probably the slowest
>5,000-meter men's race in a major championship.
>
> The men's 5,000 field of five Kenyans, including world champion Richard Limo, and
>two Ethiopians, including Olympic g
Thursday, September 06, 2001 10:22 AM
Subject: RE: t-and-f: Goodwill 5000 results
> From an AP report on the GWG 5000:
>
> "The track and field program at the Goodwill Games witnessed probably the
> slowest 5,000-meter men's race in a major championship.
>
> The men
meters was slower than Ethiopian Haile Gebrselassie's 5,000 world mark
of 12:39.36."
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I'm calling BS on th
I'm calling BS on this one, must be a typo. Surely someone would have taken
off? Someone not sure about his kick would have taken off sometime during
the race.
Alan
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"Post, Marty" wrote:
> Is this the first time in any major international competition where the
> men's gold medal winning performance has been slower than the women's???
>
Did they run two extra laps or something?
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Subject: t-and-f: Goodwill 5000 results
Anyone have splits for this ridiculous pace?
http://216.199.31.228/ath/_ath_men_5000m_final_heat_1_official.html
Regards,
Martin
Anyone have splits for this ridiculous pace?
http://216.199.31.228/ath/_ath_men_5000m_final_heat_1_official.html
Regards,
Martin
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