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From: Eckmann, Drew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2001 12:58 PM
To: 'malmo'
Subject: RE: t-and-f: Takahashi trivia EMBARASSING!!
Hey there. I sent this to the list 3 times now with no luck. Wanna Try?
I'm a little
Better start believing, Ed. I've seen many sub 2:15 types do their long
runs at a 6:50 crawl. Many run them at 5:30 pace. Some have dark hair
some have blond hair. Some are tall some are short. You get the picture.
Mr. Eckmann, any thing to reveal about Tergat's training?
malmo
No, of
No, of course I don't believe that. Any more than I believe that many sub
2:15 marathoners do a lot of long runs at 6:50 pace as someone earlier
suggested they should.
I guess my 2:09:57 doesn't count since the bulk of my runs long and short
when not in a race or during the 10-15K of speed
These guys just don't get it, do they? Coming to NYC marathon?
malmo
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Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2001 1:34 PM
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Subject: Re: t-and-f: Takahashi trivia EMBARASSING!!
No, of course I
from a recent interview with paul tergat on his traing for chicago:
The training has not been much different. I just run longer. Instead of
going out for a morning run of 5K, 8K, 10K, now about every run is 20K. My
training has been 200 to 205 kilometers a week.
bob
from a recent interview with paul tergat on his traing for chicago:
The training has not been much different. I just run longer. Instead of
going out for a morning run of 5K, 8K, 10K, now about every run is 20K. My
training has been 200 to 205 kilometers a week.
Ok, Tergat is obvuously
I don't quite see the discrepancy. The 200 km/week that Tergat claims is in
fact about 120 miles a week that the excerpt quotes.
Kurt Bray
from a recent interview with paul tergat on his traing for chicago:
The training has not been much different. I just run longer. Instead of
going
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Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2001 3:19 PM
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Subject: Re: t-and-f: Takahashi trivia EMBARASSING!!
The discrepancy is in the first interview he says the training has not been
much different, while the Yahoo article indicates that he has doubled his
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Subject: Re: t-and-f: Takahashi trivia EMBARASSING!!
I don't quite see the discrepancy. The 200 km/week that
Tergat claims is in
fact about 120 miles a week that the excerpt quotes.
Kurt Bray
from a recent interview with paul tergat on his traing
for chicago
Ed, do you seriously believe the reports that Tergat was running sub-60
halfs and sub-27 10k's
on merely 60 miles a week? I don't even trust Khannouchi when he claims he
is doing
only 90 miles a week...
http://www.runnersworld.com/dailynew/archives/2001/April/010403.html
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: Michael Rohl [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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If we had 100 runners running
In a message dated Thu, 4 Oct 2001 4:02:44 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Ed and Dana
Parrot [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
This is crazy. There is no need for a 2:15 marathoner to run for 3:30 in
training. It would be a huge waste of time. The problem is that people are
doing 18-24 milers
We see what you are saying about commitment and training levels, etc. and
improvements in those things would help the US situation. But 150, 180 or
200 mpw isn't really what is gonna get this done
/Brian McEwen
100 is better than 70, 130 is better than 100, 160 is better than 130..
This is crazy. There is no need for a 2:15 marathoner to run for 3:30
in
training. It would be a huge waste of time. The problem is that people
are
doing 18-24 milers relatively easy (and even close to 6:00 pace is
relatively easy if you are a 2:15 marathoner) and NOT doing the 13-20
2. More longish runs at marathon pace. Monkey see, Monkey do. Japanese
seem
to have success with it, as do the Kenyans. Have we forgotten how to play
follow the leader? 10-15 miles at marathon pace. I've heard that a staple
of
some of the Ehiopian marathoners (or maybe used to be) is a 20
: Takahashi trivia EMBARASSING!!
If we had 100 runners running an average of
140-50 a week with flirtations with 200 how many sub 2:20s would we have?
Apparently the Japanese already have this answer. I also doubt they took
10
years to build up to near 200 mpw levels.
I think we would
Hey, you know I have a lot of useless data in my computer and in my
head, stuff like the S African marathon program and the Fila program and
the logs from Shorter, and Clayton and stuff like that. What I don't
have is hard factual data on what the guys/gals from the rising sun do.
Sure I've
, October 05, 2001 1:18 PM
Subject: Re: t-and-f: Takahashi trivia EMBARASSING!!
Hey, you know I have a lot of useless data in my computer and in my
head, stuff like the S African marathon program and the Fila program and
the logs from Shorter, and Clayton and stuff like that. What I don't
have
Rubio raises some interesting questions. I think one of the big problems with U.S.
marathoning is that they do not train like marathoners. They train like 5K/10K runners
who put in a few 20-milers and then try to do the marathon.
Training for the marathon isn't just about mileage. It's also
Number of factors:
1. Young runners wait to long to start the marathon mambo. Todd Williams
could have broke the US record6 years ago. Look at the marathon men of
the 70s/80s...lotta youngsters putting away the miles, not worried about
losing track speed. We have 3 or 4 sub 2:10 marathon
Rubio raises some interesting questions. I think one of the big problems
with U.S. marathoning is that they do not train like marathoners. They
train like 5K/10K runners who put in a few 20-milers and then try to do the
marathon.
I agree with this statement, but. .
Training for the marathon
In a message dated Tue, 2 Oct 2001 9:10:55 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Mike Fanelli
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The fact that 2:19:46 would be number 11 amongst American men this year is
downright EMBARASSING!!
Hey, Michelle Rohl is No. 6 among American men in the 20W.
gh
Deacon
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I wonder where 2:19:46 would have been 15-20 years ago? 100th?...maybe? Oh
how the mighty have fallen. If we had 100 runners running an average of
140-50 a week with flirtations
If we had 100 runners running an average of
140-50 a week with flirtations with 200 how many sub 2:20s would we have?
Apparently the Japanese already have this answer. I also doubt they took 10
years to build up to near 200 mpw levels.
I think we would have a lot of dead runners. I
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I know better than to comment on Garry's observation regarding Michelle
Rohl...shooot all hell could break out on the list over something like that
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--- Joe Rubio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Why are they faster at all distances except the marathon?
Seems like a pretty straight forward issue. The marathon, for all intents
and purposes, is a rather extreme outlier in terms of distance, when
compared to the all [other] distances. To be as fast
The fact that 2:19:46 would be number 11 amongst American men this year is
downright EMBARASSING!!
Mike Fanelli
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Date: Tue, 2
Embarassing..but not surprising.
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