RE: t-and-f: 3:14 and Mark Nenow

ESPN does have a statistician...Carol Lewis. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Michael Contopoulos Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2001 9:41 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: t-and-f: 3:14 and Mark Nenow Did anyone else notice

RE: t-and-f: 3:14 and Mark Nenow

According to Track and Field News, the Bible of the Sport ;-) , Meb's 27:13 is pending, so that officially Nenow is still the record holder; if you want to be hair splitting about it. Steve ps ESPN2 could have at least mentioned the new mark awaiting certification, though. At 10:01 AM

Re: t-and-f: 3:14 and Mark Nenow

In a message dated 8/9/01 9:48:15 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Did anyone else notice that last night on ESPN2 they listed Broe's PR to be 3:14 and still had Mark Nenow as the AR holder in the 10k? Ouch! That never should have happened, but sometimes a bad stat (or two) gets by when

Re: t-and-f: 3:14 and Mark Nenow

In a message dated 8/9/01 10:43:46 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: According to Track and Field News, the Bible of the Sport ;-) , Meb's 27:13 is pending, so that officially Nenow is still the record holder; if you want to be hair splitting about it. Since most pending marks are later

RE: t-and-f: 3:14 and Mark Nenow

It seems that Dragila's 15-9 1/4 is technically still a pending record as well as any other of her 2001 marks. I didn't see TV coverage of women's pole vault, but I'd be willing to bet WR and AR if cited wasn't her 15 2 1/4 at the end of 2000. -Original Message- From: Steve Grathwohl

t-and-f: Re: The Worlds: pole vault qualifying and announcing

In a message dated 8/8/01 17:28:27, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: BTW: I really do like the announcing, commentary and interviews of Mr. Hill, Mr. Ridgeon (the former hurdler, indeed) and company in the stadium. Knowledgeable, to the point, alert to recent developments and - possibly important -

t-and-f: Malcolm scents 200 metres medal

The Electronic Telegraph Thursday 9 August 2001 CHRISTIAN MALCOLM carries British medal hopes into the final of tonight's 200 metres at the World Championships in Edmonton. The 22-year-old overhauled Linford Christie to become the second fastest Brit of all-time after carving another 0.05

t-and-f: Re: Pettigrew - splits?

I agree completely with Byron, moreover I suspect he went out plenty fast (except for his disappointing start reaction). I'll bet his first 200 was faster than his 2nd which would suggest that he ran smartest of all since he would have slowed down the least (i.e.come closest to his maximum

t-and-f: The End of the British Rule in Running

Thought this would provoke the usual outrage. If anyone wants to print this unpublished article, or reproduce it on a website, please send me a note. I will be most obliging. ** 9 August 2001 The End of the British Empire: Why a Brit (Black or White) Will Never Again Hold a Distance

Re: t-and-f: Felix Sanchez as American as they come

In a message dated 8/9/01 2:38:44 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sanchez is the only American in the 400 hurdles final, and yet nobody on the broadcast team -- not even Dwight or Larry, the usually astute pros -- took note of that I really don't have time to answer every criticism of the

t-and-f: TV coverage

I guess the TV coverage is not too bad for American TV, but it's still quite poor. The meet started at 8 pm EDT. ESPN came on at 1 am -- a five hour delay. Australian TV again showed the whole meet live. The entire high jump. The entire 10K. I guess ESPN didn't want to pre-empt their

Re: t-and-f: Felix Sanchez as American as they come

Please, spare us -- let's hope this story doesn't mean an up close and personal. SGMW --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Sanchez story will be told before tomorrow's final. (And please, Ken, don't take credit for alerting us to his story).

t-and-f: Drugs are talk of the town

The Irish Times Thursday, August 09, 2001 Ian O'Riordan Yet more talk of the lab rather than the track surfaced in Edmonton yesterday. The plot surrounding Russian distant runner Olga Yegorova thickened further, the fate of 800-metre contender Fabiane Dos Santos was decided forever, and the

Re: t-and-f: The End of the British Rule in Running

Book sales down again Jon? Alan From: Jon Entine [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Jon Entine [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Track and Field List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: t-and-f: The End of the British Rule in Running Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2001 11:45:55 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: from [128.223.142.13]

RE: t-and-f: The End of the British Rule in Running

I guessed that because the sprints aren't complying with Entine's bigoted views he'd focus on the 1500. Nothing new, the same tired, old sh!t. malmo -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Jon Entine Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2001 2:46

Re: t-and-f: Felix Sanchez as American as they come

In a message dated 8/9/01 3:37:00 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Please, spare us -- let's hope this story doesn't mean an up close and personal. Have no fear...there will be no up close and personal on Sanchez. WM

Re: t-and-f: Drugs are talk of the town

The announcement of those results are expected anytime between now and the start of the race, but Ljungqvist also stated that other athletes shouldn't be concerned if Yegorova tests negative because it would mean the drugs advantage would have worn off. Wouldn't the added fitness from a

Re: t-and-f: The End of the British Rule in Running

Jon Entine wrote: Thought this would provoke the usual outrage. If anyone wants to print this unpublished article, or reproduce it on a website, please send me a note. I will be most obliging. Jon, how did West African genes get to the Ukraine and East African genes get to Switzerland? --

Re: t-and-f: The End of the British Rule in Running

Malmo: You are an angry person... Except the sprint results certainly do reflect, without question, the underlying bio-genetic reality. Absolutely and unequivocally. How you can turn science into bigotry is an issue you'll have to deal with in the confessional both. On 8/9/01 12:43 PM, malmo

Re: t-and-f: Drugs are talk of the town

The announcement of those results are expected anytime between now and the start of the race, but Ljungqvist also stated that other athletes shouldn't be concerned if Yegorova tests negative because it would mean the drugs advantage would have worn off. Wouldn't the added fitness from a

FW: t-and-f: Drugs are talk of the town

The official IAAF statement claims that 50 athletes have so far been tested for EPO just before and during the championships, and Yegorova was one of them. According to IAAF vice-president Arne Ljungqvist, about 10 of those tests, including Yegorova, show red blood cell outside normal

RE: t-and-f: The End of the British Rule in Running

GRRR! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Jon Entine Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2001 4:06 PM To: malmo; Track and Field List Subject: Re: t-and-f: The End of the British Rule in Running Malmo: You are an angry

t-and-f: What Happened to the 200 meters ??

A year and a half ago we were looking at the men's 200 as perhaps the most exciting race of the Olympic games .. With a potential final of Mo Greene, Michael Johnson, Ato Boldon, Frank Fredericks, Francis Obikwelu, Claudinei da Silva, Marcin Urbas, and John Capel all of whom had run sub 20.00

Re: t-and-f: The End of the British Rule in Running

Ed, I think the meaningful part applies to the notion that British athletes should train harder as Coe suggests in order to beat the Africans. If the reason for training harder is solely to beat the Africans then the numbers Entine quotes are meaningful, but if the reason for a Brit to train

Re: t-and-f: The End of the British Rule in Running

-- Michael Contopoulos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And jon-boy, for every 10 black kids that sprint, probably 1 white kid sprints... because of a$$'s like yourself who discourage them. Nah, you'll have to do better than that. There's no question that there is somewhat of a reverse discrimination

Re: t-and-f: The End of the British Rule in Running

Tom D. wrote: I think the meaningful part applies to the notion that British athletes should train harder as Coe suggests in order to beat the Africans. If the reason for training harder is solely to beat the Africans then the numbers Entine quotes are meaningful, but if the reason for a Brit

t-and-f: What in the world happened?

Okay, All I have is the agate on the IAAF/Edmonton web site- 42 women started the 20K Walk, and FIFTEEN OF THEM got disqualified!!! Is that a new record or something? More than a third of the field. [I haven't seen the TV- just got home from a parent's planning meeting for a H.S. team XC

t-and-f: American Sprinters Mysteriously Vanish

It's probably just coincidence, but I wonder if the second-coming of U.S. distance running is connected in any way with the demise of U.S. sprinting. They probably don't have anything to do with each other, but the timing is an odd coincidence. Also, of course, we're talking two different

RE: t-and-f: The End of the British Rule in Running

Dan, you live in Oregon. There aren't 50 black kids in the entire state! malmo Nah, you'll have to do better than that. There's no question that there is somewhat of a reverse discrimination against whites when it comes to sprinting, but I very much doubt there are 10x as many black

RE: t-and-f: blacks in oregon

--- malmo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dan, you live in Oregon. There aren't 50 black kids in the entire state! I've shared a class room with more than that. That does bring up a point that I omitted in the previous post, though. The only time I've seen as many or more blacks sprinting at

Re: t-and-f: What in the world happened?

Netters This is going to both the TF list and the race walk list. For those on the racewalk list Randy Treadway is a I-friend of mine. He wrote: Okay, All I have is the agate on the IAAF/Edmonton web site- 42 women started the 20K Walk, and FIFTEEN OF THEM got disqualified!!! Snip Back to