t-and-f: pre-NCAA XC solution

2001-10-30 Thread Buck Jones, Ph.D.
Why the heck don't they just run flights? Run your top three in race A, your next four in race B - score it on points or time... whatever. Still too many runners? Three flights... etc. Cheers, Buck

Re: t-and-f: name change

2001-10-30 Thread John Lunn
'Lord knows that with everything that is going on, the last thing that we need is another onerous burden. JL [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Canadian public discovered that marketing such an animal was a very onerous burden. gh

Re: t-and-f: Colorado sweeps Big 12 CC

2001-10-30 Thread Wayne T. Armbrust
Phil Weishaar wrote: Big 12 men: 1st place Colorado 31 pts, 1-2-3 finish Jorge Torres 1st, 23:35.3, Ritzenhein 2nd 23:47.1, Edwardo Torres 3rd. Big 12 women: 1st place Colorado , women took 3 of top 5 places 1st Molly Austin 20:12.3 for 6000 meters 6th straight CC title for

RE: t-and-f: X-C Districts and Nationals - was name change

2001-10-30 Thread Mcewen, Brian T
How do people think he will do at Districts and Nationals? He should be within the top-5 (at NCAAs). There are some good reasons for him to be anywhere from 1st, 2nd, third, and so on, up to about 6th, as long as he has a good day. There are a lot of guys with proven DISTANCE ability in the

t-and-f: HS Indoor track meets -PA, NJ, DE, NY

2001-10-30 Thread RDore
Coaches and knowledgable individuals, I am a coach in NJ looking for meets for my high school team to compete in for the upcoming Indoor track season. We are willing to travel a good distance for a meet. I need help finding dates. I am aware of most of the NY armory dates. Does anyone know

RE: t-and-f: NYTimes.com Article: Alan Webb Has Learned to Go the Distance

2001-10-30 Thread Mcewen, Brian T
Now, some people think a time closer to 3:48 or even 3:47 is not beyond reason. [snip] Could Webb start to approach these times as soon as next summer AS much as I think Alan Webb is great and doing everything right ... I would give all takers 10:1 odds on him NOT RUNNING 3:47.XX for 1 mile

RE: t-and-f: NYTimes.com Article: Alan Webb Has Learned to Go the Distance

2001-10-30 Thread John Dye
John Dye [EMAIL PROTECTED] DyeStat - the Internet home of high school track www.dyestat.com AS much as I think Alan Webb is great and doing everything right ... I would give all takers 10:1 odds on him NOT RUNNING 3:47.XX for 1 mile this summer. What odds would you have given a year ago that

RE: t-and-f: NYTimes.com Article: Alan Webb Has Learned to Go the Distance

2001-10-30 Thread Dan Kaplan
--- Mcewen, Brian T [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Moving from the 3:36-38 level he was at in '01 all the way to 3:31 is a lot of improvement, even between 18 and 19 when you are likely to mature a lot. Going from 4:00 to 3:53 (mile) in the same one year span isn't exactly child's play... But

RE: t-and-f: X-C Districts and Nationals - was name change

2001-10-30 Thread Michael Contopoulos
Here's what I find baffling when I hear people say Webb isn't that good at cross, he can't run 10k, etc. If it were any other year other than last year, Alan Webb would have been Footlocker Champ and heads and shoulders above anyone else going into his freshman year. Just because Ritz was in

t-and-f: Don Potts Now Gravely Ill

2001-10-30 Thread Ssd
Netters, Sorry to report that Don Potts, the father of all us statisticians, is now gravely ill and on life support. The prognosis is not good at all. He took a turn for the worse over the weekend. The last time I spoke with him, which was last Thursday, he seemed to be moving forward, but

RE: t-and-f: NYTimes.com Article: Alan Webb Has Learned to Go the Distance

2001-10-30 Thread P.F.Talbot
I think Brian is correct in his assessment. I'd almost be willing to take bets that he does not PR in the mile this summer. I say this not as an insult or intended disrespect but simply because the chances of everything being just right again are small. The benefits of a different training

RE: t-and-f: NYTimes.com Article: Alan Webb Has Learned to Go the Distance

2001-10-30 Thread Mcewen, Brian T
What odds would you have given a year ago that he would improve from 4:03 to 3:53 in his senior year in High School? 5:1 ... and it would have been a good bet. Considering only 1 US high-schooler had ever run under 3:59 and that one was 35 years earlier ... Nobody expected a 3:53. Not even

Re: t-and-f: NYTimes.com Article: Alan Webb Has Learned to Go the Distance

2001-10-30 Thread Dan Kaplan
I tried sending this a few days ago, but it doesn't seem to have made it through to the list. So, here it goes again, as best as I can piece it together from memory. --- Martin Dixon wrote: http://www.nytimes.com/2001/10/27/sports/27WEBB.html?ex=1005221221ei=1en=fec901d09013dffe An item from

RE: t-and-f: NYTimes.com Article: Alan Webb Has Learned to Go the Distance

2001-10-30 Thread GHTFNedit
In a message dated Tue, 30 Oct 2001 11:52:07 AM Eastern Standard Time, Dan Kaplan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Probably at least as many chances as he had with his intentionally limited racing schedule the past two years. If ElG continues to race at Pre, and if Webb is in good enough shape to

Re: t-and-f: X-C Districts and Nationals - was name change

2001-10-30 Thread Michael Contopoulos
Did I say people on this list? I said people not listers. Why are you searching for an argument? However, I do disagree with you... Webb win the 1500 crown by 5 or 6 seconds? Are you kidding me? I think Jennings, Wilson, Schwabe, Kimani and Sage can all beat Webb on a given day... with

RE: t-and-f: X-C Districts and Nationals - was name change

2001-10-30 Thread Mcewen, Brian T
It is unreasonable to expect him to DOMINATE the field (i.e. win by two or three minutes) Ummm ... What? Yeah, safe to say THAT would be unreasonable. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2001 10:43 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: t-and-f: X-C Districts and Nationals - was name change

2001-10-30 Thread Mcewen, Brian T
For what it is worth ... I haven't heard anyone say he isn't that good at Cross ... And you are certainly right ... a 3:53/Footlocker Champ would normally be heralded as the next Bob Kennedy. But, maybe the problem is that everyone is already counting on him to be better than Steve Scott, Bob

t-and-f: NCAA Cross regionals

2001-10-30 Thread DLTFNedit
Who cares if Webb wins the district race? Michigan is going to qualify for Nationals, so if he's running all out for the victory in his first 10K he's not doing himelf any favors. Okay, a point here and there can make a big difference in a team battle, but I think many teams take the district

Re: t-and-f: X-C Districts and Nationals - was name change

2001-10-30 Thread koala
On Tue, 30 Oct 2001 10:01:40 -0500, you wrote: Here's what I find baffling when I hear people say Webb isn't that good at cross, he can't run 10k, etc. Did I hear anybody on this list say that Webb isn't good at cross, or can't run a 10K? All people are saying is that he should be competitive

Re: t-and-f: X-C Districts and Nationals - was name change

2001-10-30 Thread DLTFNedit
In a message dated Tue, 30 Oct 2001 3:32:11 PM Eastern Standard Time, Ed and Dana Parrot [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: And you are certainly right ... a 3:53/Footlocker Champ would normally be heralded as the next Bob Kennedy. But, maybe the problem is that everyone is already counting on

Re: t-and-f: NCAA Cross regionals

2001-10-30 Thread WMurphy25
In a message dated 10/30/01 2:43:06 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Do they serve beer in Greenville on Sundays? Hmmmall depends on who you know. If you're buying, I might be persuaded to divulge my secrets. The Walt

t-and-f: Updated NCAA D-1 Women's Harrier Analysis

2001-10-30 Thread Michael Scott
The newest version of my NCAA D-1 women's xc analysis is posted at: http://miscott.home.att.net/wxcanal Note: I have compiled win/loss records for NCAA D-1 women's teams. They are updated through October 29 and may also be found at the above URL. Here are the top 5 teams. NCAA WOMEN'S

RE: t-and-f: X-C Districts and Nationals - was name change

2001-10-30 Thread Fred Finke
Just as a matter of curiosity, what Footlocker Championship are we talking about? I certainly hope it is not the Foot Locker Cross title. Ritz took that both times they raced at Nationals. *** Fred Finke, LDR Men's Coach Selection

t-and-f: PR for Webb? (was NYT article)

2001-10-30 Thread GHTFNedit
In a message dated Tue, 30 Oct 2001 12:26:04 PM Eastern Standard Time, P.F.Talbot [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I think Brian is correct in his assessment. I'd almost be willing to take bets that he does not PR in the mile this summer. I say this not as an insult or intended disrespect but

RE: t-and-f: X-C Districts and Nationals - was name change

2001-10-30 Thread Michael Contopoulos
Webb could very well be ahead of Wilson and Tegencamp... hence my disclaimer that 4-7 interchangeable and on a good day, any one of which could challenge the top 3 for the victory. As of right now though, I'm basing Teg ahead of Webb because of the extra mile and a little, having more