Re: t-and-f: Stripper

2001-04-14 Thread Flowman21
This is a first. Congrats to Nad, or whoever you are. Let's out the stripper. Second, you are the first sub four minute miler to post nudity to this boring ass list. Go NAD. Screw this list. Schiefer

Re: t-and-f: Stripper

2001-04-14 Thread NPM2RUN
I would have to agree, a bold move for one of the list's faster members. Jezz' almost hark's back to the glory days wehn the list was dominated by college kids who can really talk smack, not just bitch about advertising/ religious sayings and the like. As for the "stripper", guess she got a

t-and-f: Regionals

2001-04-14 Thread nad wilson
I'd love to see a variation on golf's U.S. open scenario, where 25% of the USATF nationals participants come via local and regional qualifiers. It would create more local publicity for the national meet without affecting the top places very much. More importantly, it would create a logical and

Re: t-and-f: regionals won't kill the NCAA schedule

2001-04-14 Thread Trey Jackson
Excuse me, but what percentage of the time when a gun is fired at Penn is there even the theoretical possibility of an NCAA qualifying mark being recorded? While I cannot answer to Division I (and I know that a lot of the list members believe that DI is the only real track and field division

t-and-f: Marion vs. Marita

2001-04-14 Thread GHTFNedit
Danny McCray raised an interesting point in an off-list post, and that's that the "WR" that Marion Jones is going for at Mt. SAC, 34.1, was run around two turns (because it's the 300 split in Marita Koch's 47.60 WR in the 400). Marion will have the advantage of only having to run a single

Re: t-and-f: Stripper

2001-04-14 Thread GHTFNedit
In a message dated Fri, 13 Apr 2001 9:06:47 PM Eastern Daylight Time, "nad wilson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Alright, I don't want to be the guy known as the porn peddler but. all i can say is, "go-nad!"

Re: t-and-f: Regionals

2001-04-14 Thread Ed Dana Parrot
Dan wrote: The problem with that being the head to head competition in track and field as opposed to golf. If you let local runners into a meet who wouldn't normally be there, they are most likely going to get beaten handily. In golf it isn't as easy to see because Johnny Local and Tiger

Re: t-and-f: regionals won't kill the NCAA schedule

2001-04-14 Thread GHTFNedit
In a message dated Fri, 13 Apr 2001 11:26:20 PM Eastern Daylight Time, "denise lockett" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I just don't understand all the whining about a change that seems so clearly positive from the point of view of encouraging competition. Because you've uncovered one of the

Re: t-and-f: regionals won't kill the NCAA schedule

2001-04-14 Thread GHTFNedit
In a message dated Sat, 14 Apr 2001 1:47:11 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Well, the USC-UCLA meet has traditionally been the first Saturday in May, and the weather has generally been pretty good for it. Moving it a week earlier would probably invite poorer weather.

Re: t-and-f: regionals won't kill the NCAA schedule

2001-04-14 Thread GGPYNES
Have to agree. Certainly thre will be some wrinkles and bugs to work out as folks absorb the change. Big thing is it may help pump a bit of life into college track which has been moving toward terminal for a long time. We can't achieve March Madness but at least this may help get more notice

Re: t-and-f: regionals won't kill the NCAA schedule

2001-04-14 Thread Jack Moran
I just don't understand all the whining about a change that seems so clearly positive from the point of view of encouraging competition. Because you've uncovered one of the sport's dirty little secrets: everybody is more interested in protecting their own teeny little bit of turf than

Re: t-and-f: Regionals

2001-04-14 Thread Ryan Grote
Coach Nick makes some good points. One more I'd like to make is that even the big track powers who send legions to nationals, win titles, produce world class athletes and so on...THEY DON'T MAKE ANY MONEY FOR THEIR SCHOOLS OR THE NCAA! Its a blackhole financially. College track,

t-and-f: This list is ridiculous!

2001-04-14 Thread SD Cap'n
Hmmm... Some whine and cry about a poster using a Bible verse in his auto signature while others encourage the use of porn on this list. Who is the list manager, and why hasn't he/she taken appropriate action? I wonder if the U of Oregon would be interested in knowing that its servers are

Re: t-and-f: regionals won't kill the NCAA schedule

2001-04-14 Thread GHTFNedit
In a message dated Sat, 14 Apr 2001 1:13:27 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Jack Moran [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If "fostering the sport as a whole" means enhancing the NCAA Championships, I would have to agree. But, pardon my provincialism if I find conference championships -- with their true

t-and-f: silly indoor 200s revisited

2001-04-14 Thread GHTFNedit
OK, so i need to read farther in the IAAF Rules. No wonder lanes 5 and 6 had such an advantage at the World Indoor. Rule 214.10 (i guess i stopped memorizing at about 213.8) says that the 200 is seeded from the beginning, with 5 and 6 getting preference. Hence the almost impoossible nature of

Re: t-and-f: This list is ridiculous!

2001-04-14 Thread Flowman21
In a message dated 4/14/01 10:55:35 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I wonder if the readers of TF News would be interested in knowing that its editor endorses porn and its unsolicited distribution. I wonder if Mr. Hill's wife and family would be interested in knowing of

Re: t-and-f: Re: Stripper

2001-04-14 Thread alan tobin
Oh god, let's not drag this out into a 100 post discussion about the moral values of America...because there are none. If a kid wanted to look at porn all he has to do is wait till mommy and daddy are gone or in bed and get on the internet...it's not difficult. Now, if the list moderator acted

Re: t-and-f: Re: content

2001-04-14 Thread LTricard
well, this is a tf listlast year when i suggested to someone that they read my book (american women's track and field:a history 1895-1980), before posting women's history comments, the list supervisor suggested that i not advertise (of course, this has been done since)...but where is he/she

Re: t-and-f: This list is ridiculous! [note:TF Question After Rant}

2001-04-14 Thread Donald Mcfarlin
I apologize in advance for responding to such an obvious troll, but ... SD Cap'n wrote: I wonder if the U of Oregon would be interested in knowing that its servers are being used to distribute porn. First, the message in question did NOT distribute anything except a sequence of letters

t-and-f: stripper

2001-04-14 Thread Randall Northam
on 14/4/01 9:01 PM, alan tobin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh god, let's not drag this out into a 100 post discussion about the moral values of America... I'm assuming that Eamon Condon was being ironic... My problem with the photographs was that I couldn't believe she was a cross country

Re: t-and-f: stripper

2001-04-14 Thread Shawn Devereaux
I agree. She's way too attractive to be a cross country runner. s.devereaux Randall Northam wrote: on 14/4/01 9:01 PM, alan tobin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh god, let's not drag this out into a 100 post discussion about the moral values of America... I'm assuming that Eamon Condon

t-and-f: Wami beats Radcliffe at Balmoral

2001-04-14 Thread Eamonn Condon
The Electronic Telegraph Sunday 15 April 2001 Matthew Hannah PAULA RADCLIFFE would have loved to have ended her winter season with victory in yesterday's five-mile road race at Balmoral Castle - but her arch rival, Gete Wami, crossed the line first to spoil her last race. Radcliffe, who has

RE: t-and-f: NCAA regionals, etc

2001-04-14 Thread Edward Koch
The two points are related. Track Field doesn't get scholarships because it isn't a money sport. And it isn't a money sport because it doesn't generally draw spectators because, for example, last chance qualifer meets are a joke that nobody comes to see. Casual spectators want to see races not

t-and-f: From the list moderator.

2001-04-14 Thread Fred Finke
Hi. Fred Finke here. I am the current moderator until April 17th. I have been trying to put out this little "stripper thread" fire offline. However, It is time to make a general statement. Regardless of my personal beliefs, this thread is proving to be offensive to SEVERAL people on

RE: t-and-f: Regionals

2001-04-14 Thread Edward Koch
My understanding is that the NCAA meet will be a week later with the Regionals two weekends before. Thus the conference meets would only have to be a week ealier to be two weekends before Regionals. If the rest of the west coast schedule also goes a week earlier (including Mt.SAC) there would

t-and-f: Any marks from meets?

2001-04-14 Thread Guy Oekerman
It is Saturday night. A year or two ago, this list would be full of noteworthy marks by high schoolers, collegians, national elites, and international elites (although it is probably too early for the top guns to start running exceptional times). There would also be thoughtful commentary on those

t-and-f: New JC Womens Vault Record

2001-04-14 Thread Baggettpv
Becky Holliday, Clackamas Community COllege, jumped 13'7" 4.14 today to raise here national record. She had the bar then raised to 4.30. She switched to a 13'6 145 MsStik Carbon. Raised her grip to 12'8" and had on VERY close attempt. It shall be next weekend when she is over the flu and full

Re: t-and-f: This list is ridiculous!

2001-04-14 Thread Ed Crawford
Get a life and use the delete button if you don't like it. Ed

t-and-f: Vault question

2001-04-14 Thread Ed Dana Parrot
Becky Holliday, Clackamas Community COllege, jumped 13'7" 4.14 today to raise here national record. She had the bar then raised to 4.30. She switched to a 13'6 145 MsStik Carbon. Raised her grip to 12'8" and had on VERY close attempt. It shall be next weekend when she is over the flu and full