t-and-f: Earl Fee's masterpiece on masters training

2001-10-05 Thread TrackCEO
Greetings, all Couple Saturdays ago, I met Earl Fee at the Club West Masters Meet in Santa Barbara. Earl is the Canadian masters legend who holds (by his count) 30 world age-group records in events ranging from the 300 hurdles to the mile. Recently, he self-published a book on track (but not

RE: t-and-f: Takahashi trivia EMBARASSING!!

2001-10-05 Thread Mcewen, Brian T
If we had 100 runners running an average of 140-50 a week with flirtations with 200 how many sub 2:20s would we have. Apparently the Japanese already have this answer. I also doubt they took 10 years to build up to near 200 mpw levels. There is a guy most of us know and love ... He ran at

Re: t-and-f: Takahashi trivia EMBARASSING!!

2001-10-05 Thread DLTFNedit
In a message dated Thu, 4 Oct 2001 4:02:44 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Ed and Dana Parrot [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This is crazy. There is no need for a 2:15 marathoner to run for 3:30 in training. It would be a huge waste of time. The problem is that people are doing 18-24 milers

RE: t-and-f: Takahashi trivia EMBARASSING!!

2001-10-05 Thread alan tobin
We see what you are saying about commitment and training levels, etc. and improvements in those things would help the US situation. But 150, 180 or 200 mpw isn't really what is gonna get this done /Brian McEwen 100 is better than 70, 130 is better than 100, 160 is better than 130..

t-and-f: Marthon Training

2001-10-05 Thread Jim McLatchie
Reading the posts on mileage for marathoners, is like how do you bake a cake?. Since '84 I have coached twenty-five athletes that qualified to compete in the USA Olympic Marathon Trials. A couple of the guys ran in the 2:10's and seven women ran faster than 2:40 during their marathon

Re: t-and-f: Takahashi trivia EMBARASSING!!

2001-10-05 Thread Ed and Dana Parrot
This is crazy. There is no need for a 2:15 marathoner to run for 3:30 in training. It would be a huge waste of time. The problem is that people are doing 18-24 milers relatively easy (and even close to 6:00 pace is relatively easy if you are a 2:15 marathoner) and NOT doing the 13-20

Re: t-and-f: Takahashi trivia EMBARASSING!!

2001-10-05 Thread Ed and Dana Parrot
2. More longish runs at marathon pace. Monkey see, Monkey do. Japanese seem to have success with it, as do the Kenyans. Have we forgotten how to play follow the leader? 10-15 miles at marathon pace. I've heard that a staple of some of the Ehiopian marathoners (or maybe used to be) is a 20

RE: t-and-f: Takahashi trivia EMBARRASSING!!

2001-10-05 Thread Mcewen, Brian T
On the other side of the coin, sideshow, you could tell the HUNDREDS of American men who have run 2:15 or faster ... yet never run longer than a 3 hour tour, a 3-ho-ur-tour. And very rarely longer than 2:15-2:30. Certainly the extreme levels of training can work (for some people and physical

Re: t-and-f: Willie Gault an Actor?

2001-10-05 Thread Hans-Erik Pettersson
Yes, it's our Willie! Take a look here: http://us.imdb.com/Name?Gault,+Willie Regards Hans-Erik Pettersson - Original Message - From: David Hunt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 4:22 AM Subject: Re: t-and-f: Willie Gault an Actor? From the

Re: t-and-f: Marthon Training

2001-10-05 Thread Tom Fleming
on 10/5/01 1:07 PM, Jim McLatchie at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Reading the posts on mileage for marathoners, is like how do you bake a cake?. Since '84 I have coached twenty-five athletes that qualified to compete in the USA Olympic Marathon Trials. A couple of the guys ran in the 2:10's and

RE: t-and-f: Takahashi trivia EMBARASSING!!

2001-10-05 Thread malmo
But it's those stretches of 140-170s that makes everything else possible. Train hard -- really hard -- but listen to your body and know when to back off. Get those 100 runners at 140-150mpw and you'll mine a few 2:09s. Get 1000 of them and you'll mine a few 2:07s (and many 2:09s). It's all a

t-and-f: Britain lose 2005 World Championships

2001-10-05 Thread Eamonn Condon
The Electronic Telegraph Saturday 6 October 2001 INTERNATIONAL athletics chiefs have told Government ministers they cannot move the venue for the 2005 World Championships from London to Sheffield, meaning the event will now be awarded to another country. Culture Secretary Tessa Jowell and

t-and-f: IAAF disappointed London won't host 2005 WC

2001-10-05 Thread Seb Geb Meb Webb
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Re: t-and-f: Takahashi trivia EMBARASSING!!

2001-10-05 Thread Joe Rubio
Hey, you know I have a lot of useless data in my computer and in my head, stuff like the S African marathon program and the Fila program and the logs from Shorter, and Clayton and stuff like that. What I don't have is hard factual data on what the guys/gals from the rising sun do. Sure I've

Re: t-and-f: Takahashi trivia EMBARASSING!!

2001-10-05 Thread Ed and Dana Parrot
Back when Seko was running well, the reports were of him running ~160 miles per week, with the most critical workouts being two hard days of long tempo runs per week. I remember the hardest workout day struck me as 25K in both the morning and the afternoon at marathon pace for a 50K day at