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> Thought this would pro
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<<< Or is there some sort of East African/North African or whatever argument
can be crowbarred into a set of statistics which clues us in that Coe and
Ovett have genes originating in some other world? >>>
They were from some other world alright.
I'm wondering if the British genes are just not as good currently as they were in the
Coe/Ovett era. Let's face it - if the British had produced another generation of Coe's
and Ovett's including a natural progression of improvement they would be running right
with the best the world has to offe
Is it really necessary to quote the original message
in full length to every follow-up only to add an
one-liner?
I am receiving the t-and-f digest and it is irritating
to wade through the same hundreds of lines over and over
to spot the reply.
Ralf Linnemann
Dan, you live in Oregon. There aren't 50 black kids in the entire state!
malmo
>
> Nah, you'll have to do better than that. There's no question
> that there is somewhat of a reverse discrimination against
> whites when it comes to sprinting, but I very much doubt
> there are 10x as many bl
Tom D. wrote:
> I think the meaningful part applies to the notion that British athletes
> should train harder as Coe suggests in order to beat the Africans. If the
> reason for training harder is solely to beat the Africans then the numbers
> Entine quotes are meaningful, but if the reason for a B
-- "Michael Contopoulos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> And jon-boy, for every 10 black kids that sprint, probably 1 white
> kid sprints... because of a$$'s like yourself who discourage them.
Nah, you'll have to do better than that. There's no question that there
is somewhat of a reverse discrimin
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> > We are talking population genetics. When 7 percent of the world's
> population
> > holds 98 percent of the top times in sprinting, and 5 percent holds more
> > than 70 percent of the top endurance tim
> We are talking population genetics. When 7 percent of the world's
population
> holds 98 percent of the top times in sprinting, and 5 percent holds more
> than 70 percent of the top endurance times, it is meaningful.
"statistically significant", yes.
"meaningful"? I have yet to be convinced it
Michael:
I suggest you get hold of a good genetics book, such as Luca
Cavalli-Sforza's The History and Geography of Genes. It will give you a
little understanding of how population pockets evolved and the role of
genetics in shaping phenotypes--characteristics--of body type and
physiology.
In fa
Hey John,
I suppose the up and coming Spanish runners are African, huh? I wish I
could say that it was America's turn to take back distance running, but it
appears as though Spain is headed in that direction. Prediction: by 2008,
at the latest, the best middle and long distance runners in th
Years ago, in the late seventies, a certain Steve Ovett attended a coaching
seminar where the lecturer said that Brits would never again be a force in
middle distance running. The Africans (and New Zealanders) were the new
force to be reckoned with and the Brits would slide into oblivion. I wonder
and Field List'"
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> GRRR!
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GRRR!
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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Jon Entine
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> To: malmo; Track and Field List
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ther than further
> dividing those of different skin color?
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>> Thought this would provoke the usual o
Jon Entine wrote:
> Thought this would provoke the usual outrage. If anyone wants to print this
> unpublished article, or reproduce it on a website, please send me a note. I
> will be most obliging.
Jon, how did West African genes get to the Ukraine and East African genes get
to Switzerland?
Thursday, August 09, 2001 2:46 PM
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> Thought this would provoke the usual outrage. If anyone wants
> to print this unpublished article, or reproduce it on a
> website, please send me a n
Book sales down again Jon?
Alan
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Thought this would provoke the usual outrage. If anyone wants to print this
unpublished article, or reproduce it on a website, please send me a note. I
will be most obliging.
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9 August 2001
The End of the British Empire: Why a Brit (Black or White) Will Never Again
Hold a Distance Running
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