Re: t-and-f: The End of the British Rule in Running

2001-08-13 Thread Jon Entine
Again, WHY THIS OBSESSION WITH nationality. It's absurd, especially in the light of the silly barbs thrown my way. But as for your latest barb, you are flat out wrong I did discuss this numerous times, and most recently in my post a while back about why Brits will are doing so lousy. The

Re: t-and-f: The End of the British Rule in Running

2001-08-10 Thread Ralf Linnemann
Is it really necessary to quote the original message in full length to every follow-up only to add an one-liner? I am receiving the t-and-f digest and it is irritating to wade through the same hundreds of lines over and over to spot the reply. Ralf Linnemann

Re: t-and-f: The End of the British ...

2001-08-10 Thread Runtenkm
I'm wondering if the British genes are just not as good currently as they were in the Coe/Ovett era. Let's face it - if the British had produced another generation of Coe's and Ovett's including a natural progression of improvement they would be running right with the best the world has to

RE: t-and-f: The End of the British Rule in Running

2001-08-10 Thread alan tobin
My previous remarks stands and is correct. Same routine...Entine posts dribble, we respond, we respond some more, we get interested, we buy Entine's book, Entine's pockets get fatter. As Malmo said, same ol shite. Alan http://www.geocities.com/runningart2004 From: malmo [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: t-and-f: The End of the British Rule in Running

2001-08-09 Thread alan tobin
Book sales down again Jon? Alan From: Jon Entine [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Jon Entine [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Track and Field List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: t-and-f: The End of the British Rule in Running Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2001 11:45:55 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: from [128.223.142.13]

RE: t-and-f: The End of the British Rule in Running

2001-08-09 Thread malmo
I guessed that because the sprints aren't complying with Entine's bigoted views he'd focus on the 1500. Nothing new, the same tired, old sh!t. malmo -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Jon Entine Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2001 2:46

Re: t-and-f: The End of the British Rule in Running

2001-08-09 Thread Wayne T. Armbrust
Jon Entine wrote: Thought this would provoke the usual outrage. If anyone wants to print this unpublished article, or reproduce it on a website, please send me a note. I will be most obliging. Jon, how did West African genes get to the Ukraine and East African genes get to Switzerland? --

Re: t-and-f: The End of the British Rule in Running

2001-08-09 Thread Jon Entine
Malmo: You are an angry person... Except the sprint results certainly do reflect, without question, the underlying bio-genetic reality. Absolutely and unequivocally. How you can turn science into bigotry is an issue you'll have to deal with in the confessional both. On 8/9/01 12:43 PM, malmo

RE: t-and-f: The End of the British Rule in Running

2001-08-09 Thread malmo
GRRR! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Jon Entine Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2001 4:06 PM To: malmo; Track and Field List Subject: Re: t-and-f: The End of the British Rule in Running Malmo: You are an angry

Re: t-and-f: The End of the British Rule in Running

2001-08-09 Thread Tom Derderian
Ed, I think the meaningful part applies to the notion that British athletes should train harder as Coe suggests in order to beat the Africans. If the reason for training harder is solely to beat the Africans then the numbers Entine quotes are meaningful, but if the reason for a Brit to train

Re: t-and-f: The End of the British Rule in Running

2001-08-09 Thread Dan Kaplan
-- Michael Contopoulos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And jon-boy, for every 10 black kids that sprint, probably 1 white kid sprints... because of a$$'s like yourself who discourage them. Nah, you'll have to do better than that. There's no question that there is somewhat of a reverse discrimination

Re: t-and-f: The End of the British Rule in Running

2001-08-09 Thread Ed Dana Parrot
Tom D. wrote: I think the meaningful part applies to the notion that British athletes should train harder as Coe suggests in order to beat the Africans. If the reason for training harder is solely to beat the Africans then the numbers Entine quotes are meaningful, but if the reason for a Brit

RE: t-and-f: The End of the British Rule in Running

2001-08-09 Thread malmo
Dan, you live in Oregon. There aren't 50 black kids in the entire state! malmo Nah, you'll have to do better than that. There's no question that there is somewhat of a reverse discrimination against whites when it comes to sprinting, but I very much doubt there are 10x as many black