Re: [Tagging] Builders' Merchants -> Timber Merchant

2010-06-24 Thread pavithran
On 24 June 2010 14:24, John Smith wrote: > shop=timber_yard Timber yad seems apt . though usage of 'yard' is a bit confusing . I used to wrongly tag all timber yards as shop=furniture . Regards, Pavithran -- pavithran sakamuri http://look-pavi.blogspot.com _

Re: [Tagging] Builders' Merchants -> Timber Merchant

2010-06-24 Thread ael
On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 03:45:22PM +0100, Craig Wallace wrote: > builder's merchants, or timber yards, or agricultural supplies, or a > variety of other industries. > So a tag shop=industrial_supplies can cover all of these, plus an > appropriate sub-tag to specify what sort. Yes that is exactly w

Re: [Tagging] Builders' Merchants -> Timber Merchant

2010-06-24 Thread ael
On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 11:47:24PM +1000, John Smith wrote: > On 24 June 2010 23:14, ael wrote: > > Still, I was hoping for a better word than "yard". > > What was wrong with Liz's suggestion? "shop" and "supplies" are synonymous? Since every shop supplies something, we may as well dispense with

Re: [Tagging] Builders' Merchants -> Timber Merchant

2010-06-24 Thread Liz
On Fri, 25 Jun 2010, Craig Wallace wrote: > Industrial supplies is a more generic term, which can include builder's > merchants, or timber yards, or agricultural supplies, or a variety of > other industries. > So a tag shop=industrial_supplies can cover all of these, plus an > appropriate sub-ta

Re: [Tagging] Builders' Merchants -> Timber Merchant

2010-06-24 Thread Craig Wallace
On 24/06/2010 15:37, John Smith wrote: On 25 June 2010 00:34, Craig Wallace wrote: shop=supplies is meaningless. Every shop "supplies" something. What about something like shop=industrial_supplies ? That seems to be a fairly common name for these sorts of places around here. so we're back to

Re: [Tagging] Builders' Merchants -> Timber Merchant

2010-06-24 Thread John Smith
On 25 June 2010 00:34, Craig Wallace wrote: > shop=supplies is meaningless. Every shop "supplies" something. > > What about something like shop=industrial_supplies ? > That seems to be a fairly common name for these sorts of places around here. so we're back to building_supplies, construction_sup

Re: [Tagging] Builders' Merchants -> Timber Merchant

2010-06-24 Thread Craig Wallace
On 24/06/2010 14:47, John Smith wrote: On 24 June 2010 23:14, ael wrote: Still, I was hoping for a better word than "yard". What was wrong with Liz's suggestion? shop = supplies supplies = timber/concrete/building/bricks/landscaping/electrical/plumbing/mechanical/agricultural/metal shop=

Re: [Tagging] Builders' Merchants -> Timber Merchant

2010-06-24 Thread John Smith
On 24 June 2010 23:14, ael wrote: > Still, I was hoping for a better word than "yard". What was wrong with Liz's suggestion? > shop = supplies > supplies = > timber/concrete/building/bricks/landscaping/electrical/plumbing/mechanical/agricultural/metal __

Re: [Tagging] Builders' Merchants -> Timber Merchant

2010-06-24 Thread John Smith
On 24 June 2010 22:50, John F. Eldredge wrote: > Well, simply saying "yard" implies "land around a residence", but > "lumber-yard" means the same thing in the USA as it does in the UK. The suggestion was shop=yard which might merely imply a shop that sells goods and services for home gardening..

Re: [Tagging] Builders' Merchants -> Timber Merchant

2010-06-24 Thread ael
On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 10:21:19PM +1000, John Smith wrote: > On 24 June 2010 21:43, ael wrote: > > Does yard have the wrong connotations in the US? > > Residential garden? That was what I was thinking about. But the context of shop=yard should be enough to signal a different meaning? Unless som

Re: [Tagging] Builders' Merchants -> Timber Merchant

2010-06-24 Thread John F. Eldredge
Well, simply saying "yard" implies "land around a residence", but "lumber-yard" means the same thing in the USA as it does in the UK. -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com "Reserve your right to think, for even to think wrongly is better than not to think at all." -- Hypatia of Alexandria

Re: [Tagging] Builders' Merchants -> Timber Merchant

2010-06-24 Thread Mike N.
On 24 June 2010 21:43, ael wrote: Does yard have the wrong connotations in the US? Residential garden? Yes, there is the "residential lawn" context, but "Lumber yard" is common, but that's the only retail-related usage I can think of off the top of my head. ___

Re: [Tagging] superroute relation

2010-06-24 Thread Vincent Pottier
Le 24/06/2010 13:44, fly a écrit : Hi 1. of all type=superroute relation is not well documented. 2. I wonder if and how far I can use superroutes. On the wiki: wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Relation:route , last paragraph "Multiple routes share the same path", it is mentioned that a lot of tools

Re: [Tagging] Builders' Merchants -> Timber Merchant

2010-06-24 Thread John Smith
On 24 June 2010 21:43, ael wrote: > Does yard have the wrong connotations in the US? Residential garden? ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

[Tagging] superroute relation

2010-06-24 Thread fly
Hi 1. of all type=superroute relation is not well documented. 2. I wonder if and how far I can use superroutes. On the wiki: wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Relation:route , last paragraph "Multiple routes share the same path", it is mentioned that a lot of tools are not working right with superrout

Re: [Tagging] Builders' Merchants -> Timber Merchant

2010-06-24 Thread ael
On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 01:11:50PM +0200, Claudius Henrichs wrote: > Am 24.06.2010 10:42, ael: > > So while we are on _Merchant, how should timer merchants be tagged? > > Would shop=timber-yard be easily understood and useful? > > > > Didn't it spring to your mind that with those two related t

Re: [Tagging] Builders' Merchants -> Timber Merchant

2010-06-24 Thread Liz
On Thu, 24 Jun 2010, Claudius Henrichs wrote: > shop = supplies > supplies = timber/concrete/building/bricks/landscaping/electrical/plumbing/mechanical/agricultural/metal ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org

Re: [Tagging] Builders' Merchants -> Timber Merchant

2010-06-24 Thread ael
On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 06:54:07PM +1000, John Smith wrote: > On 24 June 2010 18:42, ael wrote: > Other than that it's common to use underscore than hyphen... > > shop=timber_yard > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging Indeed: it was just a typo. ael

Re: [Tagging] Builders' Merchants -> Timber Merchant

2010-06-24 Thread Claudius Henrichs
Am 24.06.2010 10:42, ael: > Again in the UK, we have a distinct sort of "outlet" which supplies > timber. These are generally known as timber merchants and the places > where they operate are sometimes called timber yards. > > These are usually large areas with associated buildings housing > subst

Re: [Tagging] What's the proper way to map multiple rail tracks in a street?

2010-06-24 Thread Liz
On Wed, 23 Jun 2010, Nathan Edgars II wrote: > http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=39.946466&lon=-75.124744&zoom=18&layers=B > 000FTF Cooper Street and Delaware Avenue are four-lane roads, with light > rail/tram tracks in the outer lanes. Obviously one could simply apply > railway=* to the highway, b

Re: [Tagging] What's the proper way to map multiple rail tracks in a street?

2010-06-24 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2010/6/24 Cartinus : > Yes, it does make sense: I told you you had to make a choice between a simple > model or a complex one. Obviously you don't like the simple one. So now you > have to design a complex one for the multi-lane road and convince other > people to map in the same way. Good luck.

Re: [Tagging] What's the proper way to map multiple rail tracks in a street?

2010-06-24 Thread Cartinus
On Thursday 24 June 2010 03:48:20 Nathan Edgars II wrote: > On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 9:16 PM, Cartinus wrote: > > On Thursday 24 June 2010 00:18:16 Nathan Edgars II wrote: > >> On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 7:33 AM, Cartinus wrote: > >> > On Wednesday 23 June 2010 11:24:19 Nathan Edgars II wrote: > >> >

Re: [Tagging] Builders' Merchants -> Timber Merchant

2010-06-24 Thread John Smith
On 24 June 2010 18:42, ael wrote: > So while we are on _Merchant, how should timer merchants be tagged? > Would shop=timber-yard be easily understood and useful? If schools are an amenity, these sorts of places are shops... Other than that it's common to use underscore than hyphen... shop=timbe

Re: [Tagging] Builders' Merchants -> Timber Merchant

2010-06-24 Thread ael
Again in the UK, we have a distinct sort of "outlet" which supplies timber. These are generally known as timber merchants and the places where they operate are sometimes called timber yards. These are usually large areas with associated buildings housing substantial mechanised saws. They are not

Re: [Tagging] Builders' Merchants

2010-06-24 Thread ael
On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 08:39:32PM +1000, John Smith wrote: > On 23 June 2010 20:26, pavithran wrote: > > On 23 June 2010 14:34, ael wrote: > > +1 for building_supplies as a shop. I have seen many shops which sell > > construction materials like cement ,bricks,granites,marbles etc which > > are