Re: [Tagging] Amenity swimming_pool (was Amenity parking)

2012-01-12 Thread Erik Johansson
On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 23:56, Simone Saviolo simone.savi...@gmail.com wrote: 2012/1/11 Ben Johnson tangarar...@gmail.com: For a public access pool (eg run by a local government authority, or even a private operator who's main business is the swimming pool) usually charge an entry fee

Re: [Tagging] Amenity parking

2012-01-12 Thread Pieren
On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 9:48 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: actually this is a recent wiki fiddling attempt. The default for missing information is: missing information. Come on, Martin. We are both from enough time on this project to know that original parking proposal

Re: [Tagging] Amenity parking

2012-01-12 Thread Richard Mann
access=private is a modifying tag - if it is used in conjuction with an amenity=parking area then it means that the parking is private (and nothing else). I guess you could use something more specific like parking=private, but there are 1000s of uses of access=private in this context, so it's

Re: [Tagging] Amenity swimming_pool (was Amenity parking)

2012-01-12 Thread John Sturdy
On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 7:38 PM, Jo winfi...@gmail.com wrote: On the one hand I wouldn't bother tagging them, but for the ones that you did tag, I think you should go back and tag them private. The tennis courts too. Agreed --- I'll do that (although fairly gradually). Every time I see solar

Re: [Tagging] Amenity swimming_pool (was Amenity parking)

2012-01-12 Thread Nathan Edgars II
On 1/12/2012 5:35 AM, John Sturdy wrote: I just hope such data doesn't get used for directed marketing; but if it does, the marketing industry is probably going to come up with the data anyway before long (I don't think it would be difficult for a swimming pool accessories company to get

Re: [Tagging] Amenity parking

2012-01-12 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2012/1/12 Pieren pier...@gmail.com: On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 9:48 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: actually this is a recent wiki fiddling attempt. The default for missing information is: missing information. Come on, Martin. We are both from enough time on this project

Re: [Tagging] Amenity swimming_pool (was Amenity parking)

2012-01-12 Thread John Sturdy
On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 10:59 AM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote: Depending on where you live, the government may already have such data available: http://www.ocpafl.org/searches/ParcelSearch.aspx?pid=282316389901790 PL3 - Large Elaborate Pool Hmmm... my first thought was that's

Re: [Tagging] Amenity parking

2012-01-12 Thread Pieren
On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 12:06 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: But again: that's not a good reason to encourage mappers to omit information they can easily provide. Sure. But I fear about this trend asking more and more attributes in editors like P2 and JOSM. You and me

Re: [Tagging] Amenity parking

2012-01-12 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 01/12/12 13:26, Pieren wrote: Sure. But I fear about this trend asking more and more attributes in editors like P2 and JOSM. You and me know that all is optionnal but in the other way, editors are suggesting the opposite. And more you ask to newcomers and less your newcomers will

Re: [Tagging] Amenity parking

2012-01-12 Thread Tobias Knerr
Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: I am not sure whether this was initially only for parkings on surface (I had thought it would have been for all kind of parkings, so also underground and multistorey) The surface default was part of the proposal that introduced the surface/underground/multi-storey

Re: [Tagging] Amenity parking

2012-01-12 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2012/1/12 Tobias Knerr o...@tobias-knerr.de: Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: I am not sure whether this was initially only for parkings on surface (I had thought it would have been for all kind of parkings, so also underground and multistorey) The surface default was part of the proposal that

Re: [Tagging] Amenity swimming_pool (was Amenity parking)

2012-01-12 Thread Ben Johnson
On 12/01/2012, at 19:10, Erik Johansson erjo...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 23:56, Simone Saviolo simone.savi...@gmail.com wrote: 2012/1/11 Ben Johnson tangarar...@gmail.com: For a public access pool (eg run by a local government authority, or even a private operator who's

Re: [Tagging] Amenity swimming_pool (was Amenity parking)

2012-01-12 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2012/1/12 Ben Johnson tangarar...@gmail.com: For my take on permissive, the best example I can think of is rural properties where you need to literally drive through private farms to get to your destination (which is usually another farm). those usually aren't permissive (at least in the

Re: [Tagging] Amenity swimming_pool (was Amenity parking)

2012-01-12 Thread Ben Johnson
On 13/01/2012, at 11:49 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2012/1/12 Ben Johnson tangarar...@gmail.com: For my take on permissive, the best example I can think of is rural properties where you need to literally drive through private farms to get to your destination (which is usually another

Re: [Tagging] Amenity swimming_pool (was Amenity parking)

2012-01-12 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2012/1/13 Ben Johnson tangarar...@gmail.com: Okay that explains it very well. I have a friend with a farm who explained a little to me and the obligation makes perfect sense. But would you tag such ways as private or just leave them as default access? this depends on the situation. It might

Re: [Tagging] Amenity swimming_pool (was Amenity parking)

2012-01-12 Thread Nathan Edgars II
On 1/12/2012 9:01 PM, Ben Johnson wrote: Farms aside, I struggle to think of examples of permissive ways. The only thing I can think of is something like a pedestrian shortcut across a golf course, or a pedestrian way through an arcade or shopping centre. Think of a large development (e.g. a