Re: [Tagging] Wiki on amenity=waste_disposal Rewrite?

2015-02-06 Thread Warin
On 5/02/2015 12:04 PM, Dave Swarthout wrote: On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 7:10 AM, Warin 61sundow...@gmail.com mailto:61sundow...@gmail.com wrote: You mean a one step? Like highway= x ? To do that I'd think a new supper key waste= at the top level! And maybe that is what it needs!

[Tagging] Whole planet flooded at main map?

2015-02-06 Thread Martin Vonwald
Hi! Is it just me or is currently the whole planet flooded on the main map? At least at zoom level 1-6. Starting with 7 countries reappear. regards, Martin ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Reception Desk

2015-02-06 Thread John Willis
Reception is used for tourists, but also is common for any large office complex or even a industrial plant. People visiting the plant (for work related activities) would go to reception, check in, and get a visitors badge. I think there is a difference between a person on vacation and a

Re: [Tagging] Tram tracks running in a road

2015-02-06 Thread Jo
I think relation street applies to all the way segments of the whole street with the same name (if in the same municipality), but I didn't check to be honest. 2015-02-06 19:44 GMT+01:00 Luca Sigfrido Percich luca.perc...@gmail.com: Many thanks Jo! Volker also suggests that I should see how

Re: [Tagging] Whole planet flooded at main map?

2015-02-06 Thread Nelson A. de Oliveira
On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 6:50 PM, Martin Vonwald imagic@gmail.com wrote: Is it just me or is currently the whole planet flooded on the main map? At least at zoom level 1-6. Starting with 7 countries reappear. It's flooded, yes. (but tagging isn't the proper place to ask this :-))

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Reception Desk

2015-02-06 Thread David Bannon
On Fri, 2015-02-06 at 13:58 +0100, Janko Mihelić wrote: Why not tourism=reception_desk? We have tourism=hotel, tourism=camp_site, tourism=information, it's only logical to use the same key. I think the idea of =reception_desk could be applied much more widely than just tourism. Commercial

Re: [Tagging] Tram tracks running in a road

2015-02-06 Thread André Pirard
On 2015-02-06 21:11, Jo wrote : I think relation street applies to all the way segments of the whole street with the same name (if in the same municipality), but I didn't check to be honest. Those kinds of relations are made to unsplit

[Tagging] courtyards

2015-02-06 Thread Friedrich Volkmann
Courtyards use to be mapped as inner members of building multipolygons. We can also use the multipolygon relation to assign a name to the bullding. If we want to assign a name to the courtyard, we must assign it to the way. But then we need some kind of physical tag in addition. Applications won't

Re: [Tagging] Wiki on amenity=waste_disposal Rewrite?

2015-02-06 Thread David Bannon
On Fri, 2015-02-06 at 19:31 +1100, Warin wrote: reasoned arg against (eg) amenity=waste_dog_excrement Yes, Warin, you are probably right, while a more sensible syntax, it will be resisted as too big a change. An alternative might be to declare that (eg) waste=waste_dog_excrement is on

Re: [Tagging] courtyards

2015-02-06 Thread Lukas Sommer
I didn’t know that courtyards have their own name ;-) In general, it seems a good idea to have a tag (apart from name=*) on the inner line of the multipolygon. But I would avoid the key place=* because this key is rather used for bigger features and seems to not fit well. Maybe there is another

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Reception Desk

2015-02-06 Thread John F. Eldredge
On February 6, 2015 4:10:23 PM CST, David Bannon dban...@internode.on.net wrote: On Fri, 2015-02-06 at 13:58 +0100, Janko Mihelić wrote: Why not tourism=reception_desk? We have tourism=hotel, tourism=camp_site, tourism=information, it's only logical to use the same key. I think the

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Reception Desk

2015-02-06 Thread David Bannon
On Fri, 2015-02-06 at 11:16 +, Dan S wrote: However it occurs to me that it would be useful to have some way of indicating _what_ it is the reception for. In a lot of cases, we'd probably see a larger area mapped as something, be it caravan park, mine, whatever. Then a single node

Re: [Tagging] courtyards

2015-02-06 Thread Alex Rollin
imho a courtyard is related to leisure. why for: because a courtyard matters to people with leisure time and it is a luxury of sorts. why against: perhaps a courtyard is a sequestered area/way as it is often tagger highway designated footpath as an area, an area that is a Very big way for foot

Re: [Tagging] Tram tracks running in a road

2015-02-06 Thread Jo
That's how it was initially done in most places, before we started mapping those tracks in more detail, which became possible thanks to improved resolution of the aerial imagery (and in the case of Brussels, thanks to UrbIS opening the data) Jo 2015-02-07 4:02 GMT+01:00 James Mast

Re: [Tagging] Lifecycle concepts, REMOVED

2015-02-06 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 7:53 AM, Janko Mihelić jan...@gmail.com wrote: But what if hikers still refer to the spot? Like Let's go to the burnt alpine hut, and then go left. That is a pretty important landmark, even if there is no sign of the hut any more. Maybe we can tag it as place=locality.

Re: [Tagging] Tram tracks running in a road

2015-02-06 Thread Jo
The reason to use separate ways for trams can be seen in the other tram tracks I mapped: http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=18/50.83181/4.33280 You can clearly see that very often the rails don't follow the asphalt where the cars drive. Cars can make 90 degree turns, the tram rails need to follow

Re: [Tagging] Whole planet flooded at main map?

2015-02-06 Thread Tom Pfeifer
Nelson A. de Oliveira wrote on 2015-02-06 21:52: On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 6:50 PM, Martin Vonwald imagic@gmail.com wrote: Is it just me or is currently the whole planet flooded on the main map? At least at zoom level 1-6. Starting with 7 countries reappear. It's flooded, yes. (but tagging

Re: [Tagging] Tram tracks running in a road

2015-02-06 Thread Janko Mihelić
2015-02-06 17:29 GMT+01:00 Luca Sigfrido Percich luca.perc...@gmail.com: We could also user a lanes modifier: lanes=3 lanes:backward=2 tram:lanes:backward=yes|no tram:forward=yes I think this is the best way to tag this. There's a great map paint style for seeing roads in towns in JOSM,

Re: [Tagging] Tram tracks running in a road

2015-02-06 Thread James Mast
Here's how we have done this in the Pittsburgh, PA area where the 'light rail' line shares the pavement with the normal road lanes. They normally only use this line during the rush hours unless they have to close the tunnel @ Station Square and divert the light rail traffic along this route.

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Reception Desk

2015-02-06 Thread Kotya Karapetyan
I think this proposal is very relevant for some larger hotel and resorts. I've been myself a few times in a situation when I had to search for the reception over a large area. It can be a trouble if you simultaneously have to get rid of your car in a parking restricted area. Same for

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Reception Desk

2015-02-06 Thread Dan S
Hi, No big objections from me, sounds useful. However it occurs to me that it would be useful to have some way of indicating _what_ it is the reception for. For example, if it was part of a site relation*, then a role like role=reception would connect it to the larger entity in a meaningful way.

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - temperature

2015-02-06 Thread John Willis
If we're going to have a temperature key - there should be some qualitative values in human understandable ranges. Yes, they are subjective. Cool/ cold / frozen / danger-cold Warm / hot / boiling / danger-hot Mild (human range comfortable, both hot and cold) This allows tagging for objects /

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - temperature

2015-02-06 Thread Kotya Karapetyan
1) +1 to drop Kelvins. 2) heated/cooled is a nice idea, but I wouldn't like seeing too many top level tags. temperature=heated temperature=cooled would be my preferred way to go. I don't like :hvac too much either, because then what do I do if I have AC + fireplace + central heating and use all

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Reception Desk

2015-02-06 Thread John F. Eldredge
On February 6, 2015 9:37:20 AM CST, Tobias Knerr o...@tobias-knerr.de wrote: On 06.02.2015 12:16, Dan S wrote: However it occurs to me that it would be useful to have some way of indicating _what_ it is the reception for. For example, if it was part of a site relation*, then a role like

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Reception Desk

2015-02-06 Thread johnw
On Feb 6, 2015, at 2:18 PM, Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote: This seems to have a bit of overlap with information to a large extent. Most have tourism information for the area they're located and vicinity and can provide a lot of the same stuff as a general tourism information

Re: [Tagging] Access restrictions for shoulder lanes?

2015-02-06 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
In the USA occasional sections of even Interstate highways are open to bicycles, where no equivalent route exists. There's some argument to tag these as bike paths to avoid the tag soup of lanes, and ensure the (unusual) situation is perfectly clear. ___

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Reception Desk

2015-02-06 Thread Janko Mihelić
Why not tourism=reception_desk? We have tourism=hotel, tourism=camp_site, tourism=information, it's only logical to use the same key. Janko Mihelić ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Access restrictions for shoulder lanes?

2015-02-06 Thread fly
Am 06.02.2015 um 14:00 schrieb Bryce Nesbitt: In the USA occasional sections of even Interstate highways are open to bicycles, where no equivalent route exists. There's some argument to tag these as bike paths to avoid the tag soup of lanes, and ensure the (unusual) situation is perfectly

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Reception Desk

2015-02-06 Thread Tobias Knerr
On 06.02.2015 12:16, Dan S wrote: However it occurs to me that it would be useful to have some way of indicating _what_ it is the reception for. For example, if it was part of a site relation*, then a role like role=reception would connect it to the larger entity in a meaningful way. That

Re: [Tagging] Tram tracks running in a road

2015-02-06 Thread Volker Schmidt
Ciao, hai guardato come l'hanno fatto altre città che hanno tram su strada? Mi vengono in mente: Strasbourg, Muenchen, Karlsruhe, San Francisco, Basel, ... Cari saluti Volker Padova, Italy On 6 February 2015 at 17:29, Luca Sigfrido Percich luca.perc...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, first time

[Tagging] Tram tracks running in a road

2015-02-06 Thread Luca Sigfrido Percich
Hi all, first time I write to the list (after lurking for a while), so I introduce myself. I am from Milano - Italy, I work for the municipality's agency for environment and mobility, and we'we been working for the last months to integrate our road graph with OSM. Currently in Milano all tram

Re: [Tagging] Tram tracks running in a road

2015-02-06 Thread Jo
Ciao Luca, For an example of a road with many variations in how the tram tracks are embedded, you can have a look at this stretch I mapped a few months ago: http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=16/50.8601/4.3117 To indicate how they belong together, maybe a street or associatedStreet relation

Re: [Tagging] Tram tracks running in a road

2015-02-06 Thread Luca Sigfrido Percich
Many thanks Jo! Volker also suggests that I should see how things are mapped in other major cities, and so I'll do. So you confirm that there isn't an established way of expressing the tram-in-road relationship? The use of the street relation has been suggested by a fellow member of the italian