Re: [Tagging] path=hiking in use

2016-02-13 Thread Andrew Errington
It's a path. The fact that the line is drawn the same for each type of path you describe doesn't matter. The line indicates "a path of some kind is here". It should be obvious from the terrain what kind of path should be expected. You could add sac_scale, to indicate that this is *not* a simple

Re: [Tagging] path=hiking in use

2016-02-13 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > Am 14.02.2016 um 08:38 schrieb John Willis : > > Since everything from a sidewalk, a concrete path, a well worn dirt path > through the grass around a park, a rough trail through the desert, and a > trail up the side of Mt Fuji all have the same vague, meaningless > highw

Re: [Tagging] path=hiking in use

2016-02-13 Thread John Willis
Javbw > On Feb 14, 2016, at 2:09 PM, Andrew Errington wrote: > > Changing the tags because you don't like the rendering is not the right > approach. It would be better to lobby for a change of rendering, or use a > different renderer. Since everything from a sidewalk, a concrete path, a we

Re: [Tagging] path=hiking in use

2016-02-13 Thread Andrew Errington
Changing the tags because you don't like the rendering is not the right approach. It would be better to lobby for a change of rendering, or use a different renderer. I use highway=path for my hiking trails, then I make relations to record the popular, named hiking trails. Some parts of the trail

[Tagging] path=hiking in use

2016-02-13 Thread johnw
I came across path=hiking subkey just now. I was cleaning up some old tagging, and lamenting the highway=path rendering change (now my rural mountain trails are all rendered as sidewalks), and I was considering changing them all to highway=trail, and then thought about a subkey of path, path=tra

Re: [Tagging] Tagging "you pick" farms and related fruit stands

2016-02-13 Thread Greg Troxel
johnw writes: > Usually, the farm consists of the orchards, greenhouses, and other > areas that are used a farmland year-round, A gift shop that usually is > a a roadside stand or small shop (shop=farm) which is open when > in-season, but the entire place is usually a singularly named > thing. T

Re: [Tagging] Do-it-yourself versus hardware stores

2016-02-13 Thread Greg Troxel
johnw writes: > A factory that manufactures IKEA furniture is industrial. > > Their Main distribution warehouse seems “commercial” > > Their shops are retail. > > Their big distribution buildings are zoned “industrial” though… I guess I’m > wrong. > https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=15/34.9

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Discourage tourism=gallery

2016-02-13 Thread Max
On 2016년 02월 12일 23:24, John F. Eldredge wrote: > I am dubious about tagging the artists that the gallery represents, > since this is likely to change on a fairly frequent basis. My > impression is that most exhibitions are only for a period of a week or > two, meaning that the tag information wou

Re: [Tagging] Tagging "you pick" farms and related fruit stands

2016-02-13 Thread John Willis
Inline: Javbw > On Feb 13, 2016, at 8:27 PM, Volker Schmidt wrote: > > I am not happy with the shop proposal myself either. > This needs more thinking. > There are several aspects to be taken into consideration. Two of them are: > 1) The pick-your-own activity often covers several types of f

Re: [Tagging] Tagging "you pick" farms and related fruit stands

2016-02-13 Thread Volker Schmidt
I am not happy with the shop proposal myself either. This needs more thinking. There are several aspects to be taken into consideration. Two of them are: 1) The pick-your-own activity often covers several types of fruit at the same farm. 2) There is a difference between self-service (at a counter

Re: [Tagging] Tagging "you pick" farms and related fruit stands

2016-02-13 Thread Colin Smale
Please, not shop=pick_your_own. shop=* indicates what is sold, not how it is sold. This would currently probably be categorised as shop=greengrocers if it were in a normal retail area. But in this case it is limited to, or specialised in, a very small range of produce. Some I know only do straw

Re: [Tagging] Tagging "you pick" farms and related fruit stands

2016-02-13 Thread johnw
> On Feb 13, 2016, at 7:06 PM, Volker Schmidt wrote: > > Maybe shop=pick_your_own added to the farm? > > [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U-Pick_and_Pick-Your-Own_%28PYO%29_Farms > ) I think in some instance it would wo

Re: [Tagging] Do-it-yourself versus hardware stores

2016-02-13 Thread johnw
> On Feb 13, 2016, at 5:36 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer > wrote: > > in OSM, distribution warehouses are industrial What do they make there? Isn’t distribution “commerce”? A factory that manufactures IKEA furniture is industrial. Their Main distribution warehouse seems “commercial” Their sh

Re: [Tagging] Tagging "you pick" farms and related fruit stands

2016-02-13 Thread Volker Schmidt
The British English term for such a place is pick-your-own farm [1]. But I cannot find any tagging in Taginfo. Maybe shop=pick_your_own added to the farm? [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U-Pick_and_Pick-Your-Own_%28PYO%29_Farms) On 13 February 2016 at 09:47, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > > s

Re: [Tagging] Tagging "you pick" farms and related fruit stands

2016-02-13 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > Am 13.02.2016 um 08:55 schrieb johnw : > > > How would you tag such a service? shop=* seems wrong for the whole farm, but > it might be new value of shop=*, like shop=customer_picks_farm, or something > that is put onto the building, or farm:customer_picks=yes for the sh

Re: [Tagging] Tagging "you pick" farms and related fruit stands

2016-02-13 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > Am 13.02.2016 um 08:55 schrieb johnw : > > this weekend, I visited a “you pick” strawberry farm. As with apples and > other fruits, Visiting a rural farm and paying a fee to pick your own fruits, > nuts, and other stuff must be popular around the world. I have visited > s

Re: [Tagging] Do-it-yourself versus hardware stores

2016-02-13 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > Am 13.02.2016 um 08:01 schrieb Marc Gemis : > > This approach could be used for supermarkets/convenience stores as > well. Supermarkets might sell different items in different countries, > or depending on their size or type (discounter vs. "regular'). yes, supermarkets lik

Re: [Tagging] Do-it-yourself versus hardware stores

2016-02-13 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > Am 13.02.2016 um 06:34 schrieb johnw : > > to me, a commercial B2B distribution warehouse is commercial (landuse & > buildings) - and the 3 mentioned above is retail and uses the shop=* tag. in OSM, distribution warehouses are industrial cheers, Martin __