Re: [Tagging] 'ongoing' U-turn restriction

2016-12-08 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 8 Dec 2016, at 19:13, Colin Smale wrote: > > "no overtaking" is too broad IMHO. maybe we'd have to define what "overtaking" means, in contrast to e.g. "passing an obstacle" (e.g. slow moving tractor). If overtaking is broad or not is not

Re: [Tagging] 'ongoing' U-turn restriction, plus side turns

2016-12-08 Thread André Pirard
On 2016-12-08 09:36, Volker Schmidt wrote: > On 2016-12-08 03:09, André Pirard wrote: >> On 2016-12-07 22:53, Martijn van Exel wrote: >>> Hey all, >>> >>> Apparently there are roads that have an 'ongoing' U-turn >>> restriction, see the sign here for >>> example:

Re: [Tagging] 'ongoing' U-turn restriction

2016-12-08 Thread Colin Smale
On 2016-12-08 15:12, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > On 8 Dec 2016, at 12:25, Colin Smale wrote: > >> Martin, your interpretation is jurisdiction-dependant. There is sometimes a >> distinction between single and double lines as well (Queensland is an >> example I just

Re: [Tagging] 'ongoing' U-turn restriction

2016-12-08 Thread Richard Welty
On 12/8/16 9:34 AM, Greg Troxel wrote: > Also, for what it's worth, in massachusetts.us, we have two kinds of > solid yellow (center) lines. One can pass with care give a single line, > but may not cross the line or pass if double. many states post explicit "no passing" signs at the beginning of

Re: [Tagging] 'ongoing' U-turn restriction

2016-12-08 Thread Greg Troxel
Martin Koppenhoefer writes: > sent from a phone > >> On 8 Dec 2016, at 12:25, Colin Smale wrote: >> >> Martin, your interpretation is jurisdiction-dependant. There is >> sometimes a distinction between single and double lines as well >>

Re: [Tagging] 'ongoing' U-turn restriction

2016-12-08 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 8 Dec 2016, at 12:25, Colin Smale wrote: > > Martin, your interpretation is jurisdiction-dependant. There is sometimes a > distinction between single and double lines as well (Queensland is an example > I just found). The objectively verifiable

Re: [Tagging] shop=estate_agent and office=estate_agent

2016-12-08 Thread Andy Townsend
On 07/12/2016 22:48, LeTopographeFou wrote: Hi, I will probably reopen an explosive case but I would like to know where we are reguarding shop=estate_agent vs office=estate_agent. Personally I use both - "shop" for places that are primarily B2C and fitted out as shops, and "office" for

Re: [Tagging] shop=estate_agent and office=estate_agent

2016-12-08 Thread Éric Gillet
2016-12-08 11:25 GMT+01:00 Martin Koppenhoefer : > > On 8 Dec 2016, at 01:49, Mike N wrote: > > > > Like all things in OSM, I'm not sure how to migrate to a new consensus > of office= > > > just use office, and add a hint to the wiki. As was pointed out

Re: [Tagging] 'ongoing' U-turn restriction

2016-12-08 Thread Colin Smale
Martin, your interpretation is jurisdiction-dependant. There is sometimes a distinction between single and double lines as well (Queensland is an example I just found). The objectively verifiable fact is the road marking, thereafter you have to interpret the local laws to understand its effect. A

Re: [Tagging] 'ongoing' U-turn restriction

2016-12-08 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 8 Dec 2016, at 09:36, Volker Schmidt wrote: > > how we tag, on two-way roads, continuous middle lines (or double continuous > middle lines) that imply continuous stretches of road with "no-u-turn", no > passing/overtaking, and "no-left-turn" (in

Re: [Tagging] shop=estate_agent and office=estate_agent

2016-12-08 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 8 Dec 2016, at 01:49, Mike N wrote: > > Like all things in OSM, I'm not sure how to migrate to a new consensus of > office= just use office, and add a hint to the wiki. As was pointed out above, actual migration has already taken place, given the

Re: [Tagging] Mediterranean "bar" aka pub

2016-12-08 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone On 8 Dec 2016, at 02:15, Alejandro S. wrote: >> Some are indeed better tagged with amenity=cafe > > > > > And maybe some of them as amenity=pub? maybe in very few exceptions, usually not. There are pubs in Italy and they are completely

Re: [Tagging] 'ongoing' U-turn restriction

2016-12-08 Thread Volker Schmidt
This is interesting and closely related to the question how we tag, on two-way roads, continuous middle lines (or double continuous middle lines) that imply continuous stretches of road with "no-u-turn", no passing/overtaking, and "no-left-turn" (in countries with right-hand traffic). In addition