Re: [Tagging] Emergency shelters

Authorities routinely post the hurricane evacuation centers for a year as they do change a little bit year to year. but the core typically remains the same, schools etc. These just need a good lifecycle tag. Like "good until' date, after which it can be easily found and removed. I proposed

Re: [Tagging] Emergency shelters

Eric wrote "Why would you delete data that is still valid and useful?" My concern is that if these are permanent features, then people will say "ooh - they'll be the same as last time" and of course they probably won't be the same as last time and we may route people to a wrong place, with

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Evacuation Route

Hi Eric, I noticed that in one of the briefings , the Govoner of Florida mentioned that Goggle was going to dynamically change their "evacuation routes", should one become unavailable. Will this proposal contain alternate evacuation routes, and an indication by whom and when they would be

Re: [Tagging] Elevation in Feet as part of Peak Names

On 08-Sep-17 09:10 AM, Dave Swarthout wrote: Adding numeric values to the name of a peak is not okay. As for using feet in the "ele" tag instead of meters, JOSM discourages this practice and I think we should too. It's long past the time when Americans and other countries still using archaic

Re: [Tagging] Elevation in Feet as part of Peak Names

Adding numeric values to the name of a peak is not okay. As for using feet in the "ele" tag instead of meters, JOSM discourages this practice and I think we should too. It's long past the time when Americans and other countries still using archaic and cumbersome measurement systems based on the

Re: [Tagging] Elevation in Feet as part of Peak Names

ele can of course be in feett or lightyears for that matter, but it's a lot easier to work with if they are all in the same unit. 2017-09-08 0:22 GMT+02:00 Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com>: > On 08-Sep-17 07:39 AM, Shawn K. Quinn wrote: > >> On 09/07/2017 04:31 PM, Mike Thompson wrote: >> >>> User

Re: [Tagging] Fire hydrants vs suction_point

> water_source=groundwater +1 > water_level=6 (in meters) ? > I mean the distance between the ground level and the > water level. E.g. the water is 3 m below ground. Suction head is the right word in hydraulics. > I think the water level will drop as large amounts of water are drawn off, so

Re: [Tagging] Emergency shelters

> > > do you recall why emergency:social_facility=shelter was chosen as a tag, > rather than a simple "emergency=shelter"? Because social_facility shelter > in osm is used with a different meaning, so it seems quite odd. > > (1) "emergency=shelter" is not defined in wiki (2) wiki says

Re: [Tagging] Elevation in Feet as part of Peak Names

On 08-Sep-17 07:39 AM, Shawn K. Quinn wrote: On 09/07/2017 04:31 PM, Mike Thompson wrote: User Raymo853 and I are having a friendly discussion on changeset 50470413[1]. He has been adding the elevation of mountain peaks (in feet) to the name tag. For example, he changed "Crown Point" to "Crown

Re: [Tagging] Elevation in Feet as part of Peak Names

On 09/07/2017 04:31 PM, Mike Thompson wrote: > User Raymo853 and I are having a friendly discussion on changeset > 50470413[1]. He has been adding the elevation of mountain peaks (in > feet) to the name tag. For example, he changed "Crown Point" to "Crown > Point 11,463 ft."[2] While the wiki

Re: [Tagging] Elevation in Feet as part of Peak Names

Sounds like tagging for the renderer to me. There is a elevation tag already defined and in wide spread use. And it is pretty easy for a renderer to show that in addition to the name. And even convert it from meters to feet when doing the rendering. I do this when rendering my personal use

[Tagging] Elevation in Feet as part of Peak Names

User Raymo853 and I are having a friendly discussion on changeset 50470413[1]. He has been adding the elevation of mountain peaks (in feet) to the name tag. For example, he changed "Crown Point" to "Crown Point 11,463 ft."[2] While the wiki doesn't specifically address the issue of elevation as

Re: [Tagging] Emergency shelters

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 09/07/2017 04:08 AM, Nick Hocking wrote: > The list of emergency centers would be very much dependent on where > the threat is and what the nature of the threat is. As a former emergency management planner I'll go on the record as saying...

Re: [Tagging] Emergency shelters

On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 1:28 PM, Greg Troxel wrote: > > Nick Hocking writes: > > > Do we have a tagging scheme for emergency shelters to be used in times of > > natural disasters? > > Around me, there are almost no places that would be described like this

Re: [Tagging] Emergency shelters

Nick Hocking writes: > Do we have a tagging scheme for emergency shelters to be used in times of > natural disasters? > > Off the top of my head I could see tags such as > > emergency=shelter Around me, there are almost no places that would be described like this as

Re: [Tagging] Emergency shelters

Le 07. 09. 17 à 17:24, Martin Koppenhoefer a écrit : >> emegency:social_facility=shelter > social_facility shelter in osm is used with a different meaning, > so it seems quite odd. +1 :( 2017-09-07 13:41 GMT+02:00 tomoya muramoto : > hazard_type=* feel free to add some info in the wiki

Re: [Tagging] Emergency shelters

2017-09-07 13:41 GMT+02:00 tomoya muramoto : > (1) Evacuation shelter > Many schools are designated as evacuation shelter for natural disaster > such as flooding. > amenity=school > emegency:social_facility=shelter > hazard_type=* > > do you recall why

Re: [Tagging] Emergency shelters

There was a discussion here on "Disaster response" in April. https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/2017-April/032127.html Another discussion back in December 2015 "If a school is a shelter when a disaster happens..."

[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Evacuation Route

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Evacuation_routes Emergency evacuation routes, with direction, for various types of emergencies. Thanks, Eric "Sparks" -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-

Re: [Tagging] Emergency shelters

Hi all, Japanese community has decided to use following tags (Discussed here https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ja/2017-July/009817.html) (1) Evacuation shelter Many schools are designated as evacuation shelter for natural disaster such as flooding. amenity=school

Re: [Tagging] Emergency shelters

Marc wrote "*open=yes/no *except this one. what do you mean ?" Yes, I agree , this one is silly and means nothing. They are always open, and if closed will be just deleted from the map. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Tagging] Emergency shelters

Le 07. 09. 17 à 05:48, Nick Hocking a écrit : > Do we have a tagging scheme for emergency shelters > to be used in times of natural disasters? why not, it could be consistent with the other emergency feature. > emergency=shelter > open=yes/no except this one. what do you mean ? for me a closed

Re: [Tagging] Emergency shelters

sent from a phone > On 7. Sep 2017, at 12:22, Walter Nordmann wrote: > > Hi (hallo) Martin, > > in Osm there are 94790 amenity=shelter and 1 (one) emergency=shelter. (Nodes > only, may be some more ways). > I think, you won't change that ;) > likely not alone ;-)

Re: [Tagging] Emergency shelters

sent from a phone > On 7. Sep 2017, at 10:38, Jean-Marc Liotier wrote: > > whereas amenity=shelter is a protection from something defined > in shelter_type=* the sun shelter protects from the sun, the weather shelter from the weather and the picnic shelter from picnics?

Re: [Tagging] Emergency shelters

Hi (hallo) Martin, in Osm there are 94790 amenity=shelter and 1 (one) emergency=shelter. (Nodes only, may be some more ways). I think, you won't change that ;) Am 07.09.2017 um 09:54 schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer: I would use "emergency" as the "main" key. Cheers, Martin

Re: [Tagging] Fire hydrants vs suction_point

On 07-Sep-17 05:47 PM, Moritz wrote: And there seems to be a consensus for grouping all things where firefighters can attach their pump under emergency=fire_hydrant. Where there is a dedicated pipe/hydrant. Where there is a 'Static Water Supply' then there are usually no formal fittings of

Re: [Tagging] Emergency shelters

On Thu, 7 Sep 2017 07:41:37 +0200 Marc Gemis wrote: > > On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 6:44 AM, Nick Hocking > wrote: >> >> "I think amenity=shelter is well established " > > The social facility shelter >

Re: [Tagging] Emergency shelters

The list of emergency centers would be very much dependent on where the threat is and what the nature of the threat is. Therefore I see these as being loaded (by the relevant authorities) only when a state of emergency is declared and only for the areas affected. These locations would therefore

Re: [Tagging] Emergency shelters

2017-09-07 9:49 GMT+02:00 Nick Hocking : > I don't think this school should be labelled with any kind of social > facility tag whereas it is only in a state of emergency that it would take > on the role of an emergency center. > especially as social_facility is in the

Re: [Tagging] Fire hydrants vs suction_point

And there seems to be a consensus for grouping all things where firefighters can attach their pump under emergency=fire_hydrant. Where there is a dedicated pipe/hydrant. Where there is a 'Static Water Supply' then there are usually no formal fittings of any description. 'Static Water Supply'

Re: [Tagging] Emergency shelters

the wikipedia page it refers to seem to describe the same facility as you do, not ? On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 8:34 AM, Nick Hocking wrote: > Marc wrote > "The social facility shelter > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:social_facility%3Dshelter > mentions emergency

Re: [Tagging] Emergency shelters

Marc wrote "The social facility shelter https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:social_facility%3Dshelter mentions emergency shelter." Yes it does, although I would think that these would usually be of limited capacity and meant for use at all times. I think we need tagging for large scale