Re: [Tagging] winter tyres

2017-10-31 Thread Kevin Kenny
>>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Good_practice#Don.27t_map_your_local_legislation.2C_if_not_bound_to_objects_in_reality >> if there’s a sign “winter equipment required” it is bound to an object in >> reality. > I'm not disputing that. I was commenting on Kevin Kenny's pointing out the >

Re: [Tagging] winter tyres

2017-10-31 Thread Warin
On 01-Nov-17 01:18 AM, Michal Fabík wrote: Hi, from tomorrow on (until spring) some roads in Czechia (and other countries, although the date may vary) will only be accessible to vehicles with "winter equipment", i.e. the vehicle must be fitted with snow or M+S tyres, plus it has to carry snow

Re: [Tagging] winter tyres

2017-10-31 Thread Paul Johnson
On Tue, Oct 31, 2017 at 1:19 PM, Michal Fabík wrote: > On 31.10.2017 18:37, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > >> >> >> sent from a phone >> >> On 31. Oct 2017, at 16:31, Michal Fabík wrote: >>> >>>

Re: [Tagging] winter tyres

2017-10-31 Thread Michal Fabík
On 31.10.2017 18:37, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone On 31. Oct 2017, at 16:31, Michal Fabík wrote: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Good_practice#Don.27t_map_your_local_legislation.2C_if_not_bound_to_objects_in_reality if there’s a sign “winter

Re: [Tagging] confusing wiki on emergency

2017-10-31 Thread Mark Wagner
On Tue, 31 Oct 2017 10:44:09 + Adam Snape wrote: > Might access tags for emergency service personnel be a solution for a > non-existant problem? Are there really many places which the emergency > services are explicitly legally prohibited from accessing? There may

Re: [Tagging] winter tyres

2017-10-31 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 31. Oct 2017, at 16:31, Michal Fabík wrote: > > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Good_practice#Don.27t_map_your_local_legislation.2C_if_not_bound_to_objects_in_reality if there’s a sign “winter equipment required” it is bound to an object in

Re: [Tagging] winter tyres

2017-10-31 Thread Kevin Kenny
On Tue, Oct 31, 2017 at 11:33 AM, Tod Fitch wrote: > So basically the spelling in the UK was ‘tire’ for a couple hundred years > and they decided to change it in the case of rubber tires. If OpenStreetMap > had started in 1900, we would use ’tire’ rather than ’tyre’. :) I

Re: [Tagging] winter tyres

2017-10-31 Thread Tod Fitch
> On Oct 31, 2017, at 7:50 AM, Micah Cochran wrote: > > > Please check your spelling of tire. > > tyre is the correct British English spelling. > > A tire (American English) or tyre (British English[...]) is a ring-shaped > component that surrounds a wheel's rim to

Re: [Tagging] winter tyres

2017-10-31 Thread Michal Fabík
On Tue, Oct 31, 2017 at 4:12 PM, Kevin Kenny wrote: > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Good_practice#Don.27t_map_your_local_legislation.2C_if_not_bound_to_objects_in_reality Thanks for pointing this out, I wasn't even quite aware of this. When I suggested

Re: [Tagging] winter tyres

2017-10-31 Thread Kevin Kenny
On Tue, Oct 31, 2017 at 10:54 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > The question is if we want to tag "winter equipment required" and this means > different things in different jurisdictions, or if we set up a series of > more atomic tags that spell out the implications of

Re: [Tagging] winter tyres

2017-10-31 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2017-10-31 15:39 GMT+01:00 Pander : > On 10/31/2017 03:18 PM, Michal Fabík wrote: > . Note that winter equipment might also cover snow chains > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snow_chains which is at some times > compulsory on certain roads in winter. So a more

Re: [Tagging] winter tyres

2017-10-31 Thread Micah Cochran
> > >> Please check your spelling of tire. tyre is the correct British English spelling. A tire (American English) or tyre (British English[...]) is a ring-shaped component that surrounds a wheel's rim to transfer a vehicle's load from the axle through the wheel to the ground and to provide

Re: [Tagging] winter tyres

2017-10-31 Thread Philip Barnes
The original spelling is correct, OSM uses British English. Tire is American spelling. Phil (trigpoint) On 31 October 2017 14:39:47 GMT+00:00, Pander wrote: >On 10/31/2017 03:18 PM, Michal Fabík wrote: >> Hi, >> from tomorrow on (until spring) some roads in

[Tagging] winter tyres

2017-10-31 Thread Michal Fabík
Hi, from tomorrow on (until spring) some roads in Czechia (and other countries, although the date may vary) will only be accessible to vehicles with "winter equipment", i.e. the vehicle must be fitted with snow or M+S tyres, plus it has to carry snow chains, tow rope and possibly other related

Re: [Tagging] confusing wiki on emergency

2017-10-31 Thread joost schouppe
Hi Adam, This thread came into existance after questions to use from people actually working with the emergency services to improve routing for them. There is a real issue to solve. Basically, emergency services can often ignore many laws of traffic, but there are some exceptions. Especially in

Re: [Tagging] confusing wiki on emergency

2017-10-31 Thread Adam Snape
Might access tags for emergency service personnel be a solution for a non-existant problem? Are there really many places which the emergency services are explicitly legally prohibited from accessing? Adam On 31 October 2017 at 09:00, joost schouppe wrote: > Hi

Re: [Tagging] confusing wiki on emergency

2017-10-31 Thread joost schouppe
Hi Mateusz, Of course a single bad link is not enough. I also didn't realize how many objects are already tagged with emergency=yes. I've never liked the way access is implied on all the specific tags, where we write access:bicycle as bicycle. IMHO, it makes the tagging scheme more complicated

Re: [Tagging] confusing wiki on emergency

2017-10-31 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
Single bad link on wiki is not a good reason for mass edit worldwide, changing all editors, changing all data consumers, changing habits of all users using this tag, introducing confusing and unusual prefix (it is not like OSM tagging scheme requires more confusing things) and changing all pages