Re: [Tagging] Tagging from fire_service_areas - landuse:emergency

2020-10-28 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 28. Oct 2020, at 17:40, Rob Savoye wrote: > > I'm not 100% sure on the best tagging other than maybe parking=yes and > access=emergency is appropriate these really aren’t parking areas, nobody parks there, and you may not, they are rather the opposite, no parking

Re: [Tagging] Tagging from fire_service_areas - landuse:emergency

2020-10-28 Thread Rob Savoye
On 10/28/20 8:28 AM, Jonathon Rossi wrote: > Apologies for bringing dedicated reserved parking into the thread since > that is the only experience or interpretation I had. I think parking is > a worthwhile tag and I'd use emergency=parking for that, but let's get > back to your topic since it

Re: [Tagging] Tagging from fire_service_areas - landuse:emergency

2020-10-28 Thread Jonathon Rossi
Apologies for bringing dedicated reserved parking into the thread since that is the only experience or interpretation I had. I think parking is a worthwhile tag and I'd use emergency=parking for that, but let's get back to your topic since it sounds more complex. On Tue, Oct 27, 2020 at 6:34 PM

Re: [Tagging] Tagging from fire_service_areas - landuse:emergency

2020-10-28 Thread Paul Allen
On Wed, 28 Oct 2020 at 12:14, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > these areas are usually not access=no, there will be no parking / stopping > signs, but otherwise these are "normal" areas where other activities (like > walking, playing with a ball, etc.) will take place. Think of it as part of > the

Re: [Tagging] Tagging from fire_service_areas - landuse:emergency

2020-10-28 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am Mi., 28. Okt. 2020 um 12:35 Uhr schrieb Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging < tagging@openstreetmap.org>: > access=no should be enough, if parking searcher is not handling > access=no/access=private > it is broken anyway > these areas are usually not access=no, there will be no parking / stopping

Re: [Tagging] Tagging from fire_service_areas - landuse:emergency

2020-10-28 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging
access=no should be enough, if parking searcher is not handling access=no/access=private it is broken anyway Oct 28, 2020, 09:19 by lrich...@posteo.de: > > I think here it would better to use the primary name space of emergency, > similar to disused/abandoned, so that routers/data

Re: [Tagging] Tagging from fire_service_areas - landuse:emergency

2020-10-28 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging
I that case amenity=parking would not fit. I thought that "areas set aside for parking by emergency vehicles" would be parking with special restrictions (and some of them exist, for example hospitals or healthcare locations may have dedicated parking spaces or entire parking lots reserved for

Re: [Tagging] Tagging from fire_service_areas - landuse:emergency

2020-10-28 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 28. Oct 2020, at 03:02, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > Thanks, Supa - it's not a concept that I've ever heard of in Australia! maybe you don’t signpost these? Every country has fire regulations for buildings which include guaranteeing accessibility for fire fighters in

Re: [Tagging] Tagging from fire_service_areas - landuse:emergency

2020-10-28 Thread Supaplex
Better use the key "description" instead of "name". Apart from that in my opinion you can do it like this. More problematic is the access road (apparently not mapped by you): On some sections it is drawn twice over the footways/path and "name" is used here as well. As I already mentioned in a

Re: [Tagging] Tagging from fire_service_areas - landuse:emergency

2020-10-28 Thread Supaplex
"parking" should not be used for this, because in many cases these areas have nothing in common with a parking lot. This meadow, for example, is explicitly a rescue area, but definitely not a parking lot: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/503246160 (and I think, by the way, that in case of an

Re: [Tagging] Tagging from fire_service_areas - landuse:emergency

2020-10-28 Thread Lukas Richert
I think here it would better to use the primary name space of emergency, similar to disused/abandoned, so that routers/data providers that don't consider this tag won't lead people to park there. On 28/10/2020 05:21, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging wrote: Oct 28, 2020, 03:22 by

Re: [Tagging] Tagging from fire_service_areas - landuse:emergency

2020-10-28 Thread Tod Fitch
Sounds line what are signed as “fire lanes” in the United States. -- Sent from my phone, please forgive my brevity. > On Tuesday, Oct 27, 2020 at 6:59 PM, Graeme Fitzpatrick > mailto:graemefi...@gmail.com)> wrote: > > > On Wed, 28 Oct 2020 at 09:43, Supaplex (mailto:supap...@riseup.net)>