Re: [Tagging] OSM Wiki

sent from a phone > On 1 Oct 2022, at 02:38, stevea wrote: > > There's water_tap, there's fountain (water fountains, same as drinking > fountains / bubblers, not the same as big fountains in the park or Las > Vegas), there's bubblers, are we (largely?) on the same page about these?! > Good

[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Proposed features/amenity=mailroom

Propose the tag amenity=mailroom for identifying a mailroom for receiving packages or letters at a university, an apartment building complex, or a commercial office building complex. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/amenity%3Dmailroom#Tagging Please discuss this proposal

Re: [Tagging] OSM Wiki

Maybe it's west coast / east coast, but I hear "drinking fountain," and maybe I'm hearing more-often in Rhode Island "water fountain." That latter, to my California ear, is a broad category that does include "bubblers" (to spray up at your lips and you take a drink right now) but "water fountai

Re: [Tagging] OSM Wiki

On Fri, Sep 30, 2022 at 7:45 PM Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > How about "water bubblers"? Are they also a tap? > Ah yes, the "bubbler". For those that don't live in Rhode Island, or one specific part of Wisconsin, "bubbler" is a word that we use for what's called a "water fountain" in other parts

Re: [Tagging] OSM Wiki

With those, no need to say potable/drinkable, yeah. I do see signs that say "using recycled water" or "not drinkable, use for radiator only" signs (fewer of the latter, but I do recall those from decades ago). This might be marked with a "do not drink" glyph / red circle-with-slash over a huma

Re: [Tagging] OSM Wiki

On Fri, Sep 30, 2022 at 5:53 PM Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > > > > On Sat, 1 Oct 2022 at 09:37, stevea wrote: > >> I haven't heard a wider chime-in to my emphasis on "potable" (drinkable, >> if you prefer) but I think many of us mean that with a water_tap, even if >> we don't say it, I think we s

Re: [Tagging] OSM Wiki

On Sat, 1 Oct 2022 at 09:37, stevea wrote: > I haven't heard a wider chime-in to my emphasis on "potable" (drinkable, > if you prefer) but I think many of us mean that with a water_tap, even if > we don't say it, I think we should. > I'm not sure if we should define that all taps are automatical

Re: [Tagging] OSM Wiki

On Sat, 1 Oct 2022 at 09:32, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging < tagging@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > > I would not expect https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:Bubbler.jpg > to be a water tap, but I am not a native speaker. > Yes, quite definitely a water tap! How you would then distinguish > ht

Re: [Tagging] OSM Wiki

On Sat, 1 Oct 2022 at 09:01, Mike Thompson wrote: > > Agree it should be deleted or at least modified. > On Sat, 1 Oct 2022 at 09:19, stevea wrote: > I'll go this: "A water tap is a human-made construction providing access > to potable water" and leave out "supplied by centralized water distr

Re: [Tagging] OSM Wiki

As a native speaker (though US English, not "the King's" or RP), a "bubbler" (what we Yanks call "drinking fountain") is a water tap. Some of these "aim at our lips," some of them are "better suited in a downward direction, perhaps for hand-washing, perhaps for drawing into a hydration bottle..

Re: [Tagging] OSM Wiki

Oct 1, 2022, 00:43 by graemefi...@gmail.com: > "Note that > fountain > => > bubbler > > providing tiny upward jet of water is not considered as a water tap" > > I disagree with that

Re: [Tagging] OSM Wiki

I'll go this: "A water tap is a human-made construction providing access to potable water" and leave out "supplied by centralized water distribution system." That might be "a bucket near the roof of this building." Honestly, I think it helps to connote "with a handy, accessible, user-friendly

Re: [Tagging] OSM Wiki

On Fri, Sep 30, 2022 at 4:48 PM Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > Two more questions re the wiki. > > " A water tap is a man-made construction providing access to water, *supplied > by centralized water distribution system*" - how about taps connected to > rain-water tanks? That part of that sentence s

Re: [Tagging] OSM Wiki

Two more questions re the wiki. " A water tap is a man-made construction providing access to water, *supplied by centralized water distribution system*" - how about taps connected to rain-water tanks? That part of that sentence should be deleted. & " Note that fountain

Re: [Tagging] Is it man_made=water_tap?

On Fri, 30 Sept 2022 at 18:29, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > I would not tag a bubbler as a tap. > These were the bubblers that we grew up with at school https://victoriancollections.net.au/media/collectors/57a00a4fd0cdd1210422a51e/items/59b460bc21ea6705f4784c26/item-media/59b460db21ea67

Re: [Tagging] service vs. unclassified, conflicting definitions

Unclassified, by definition, is a road on the traffic grid suitable for motorised vehicles. It is not necessarily paved. Access restrictions may apply, and usage may change in time, e.g the road still connects, but is legally closed for cars except emergency vehicles and people who live along th

Re: [Tagging] service vs. unclassified, conflicting definitions

sent from a phone > On 30 Sep 2022, at 17:48, grin via Tagging wrote: > > Either service should mean "one level below unclassified" and soften the > wording even more ("generally" to "in many cases", for example), or > unclassified shall drop requirement for motorcars and suggesting service

[Tagging] service vs. unclassified, conflicting definitions

Hello, To open it for a larger audience please let me share my question from the osm wiki: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Tag:highway%3Dservice#service_vs._unclassified,_conflicting_definitions Quoting: - - - - - service vs. unclassified, conflicting definitions There are some discr

Re: [Tagging] Can we assume surface=cobblestone:flattened to be an exact duplicate of surface=sett?

Sett <-> flattened cobblestone: Sett are roughly rectangular blocks, hewn from big blocks of stone (granite or basalt). Flattened cobblestones are made from roughly round cobblestones by flattening the part that faces the road surface. Cobblestones and pebbles are essentially the same: pebblestones

Re: [Tagging] OSM Wiki

Sep 30, 2022, 15:13 by georg2...@nurfuerspam.de: > Hi Mateusz, > > in your edit > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Tag%3Aman_made%3Dwater_tap&type=revision&diff=2408821&oldid=2112133 > you added the sentence > >> For working one additional tags fitting it would be ... >> > > I d

[Tagging] OSM Wiki

Hi Mateusz, in your edit https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Tag%3Aman_made%3Dwater_tap&type=revision&diff=2408821&oldid=2112133 you added the sentence > For working one additional tags fitting it would be ... I don't really get the meaning 🤷‍♂️ Could you word it differently or exp

Re: [Tagging] Re: Tagging Digest, Vol 156, Issue 68 Seats or capacity ?

Thanks, but I don't think our medieval pavement adheres to European industrial standards. Also, benches along hiking trails etc. I should just being a measuring tape with me, I suppose.--Sent from my Android phone with WEB.DE Mail. Please excuse my brevity.On 30/09/2022, 11:02 St Niklaas wrot

Re: [Tagging] Tagging Digest, Vol 156, Issue 68 Seats or capacity ?

Hi Anne, By lack of friends use your elbows they wont mind. A seat with friends is 0.50 m closely of cosey. With a 'normal' format of strangers its about 0.60 the length of the top of your stretch fingers up to the backside of your elbow. But an estimated guess would do as well or the size of t

Re: [Tagging] Can we assume surface=cobblestone:flattened to be an exact duplicate of surface=sett?

Sep 30, 2022, 10:56 by marc_m...@mailo.com: > Hello, > > Le 30.09.22 à 04:20, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging a écrit : > >> maybe it should be changed and be treated as missing surface info >> > > I don't see how cobblestone:flattened could mean unhewn_cobblestone in some > case, imho it's a al

Re: [Tagging] Can we assume surface=cobblestone:flattened to be an exact duplicate of surface=sett?

Hello, Le 30.09.22 à 04:20, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging a écrit : maybe it should be changed and be treated as missing surface info I don't see how cobblestone:flattened could mean unhewn_cobblestone in some case, imho it's a alias for sett but if cobblestone:flattened (as said in the sur

Re: [Tagging] Is it man_made=water_tap?

On 30/9/22 13:01, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging wrote: I expanded https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:man_made%3Dwater_tap based on discussion here and what I researched while implementing https://github.com/streetcomplete/StreetComplete/pull/4423 ("How is drinking water provided here?") Fe

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Bench: replace seats by capacity

I think a bench is one seat with a given capacity. Therefore, it's prudent to map it and tag capacity=*, rather than seats=*. Wish you a mappy end of month. On Fri, Sep 30, 2022, 5:09 AM wrote: > Send Tagging mailing list submissions to > tagging@openstreetmap.org > > To subscribe or un

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Bench: replace seats by capacity

Hello, Le 29.09.22 à 18:26, martianfreeloader a écrit : I am considering two groups of mutually exclusive proposals to settle this issue propose, withdraw, re-propose in 24 hours, that's a bit fast. give time for ideas to mature. I've done some research on how the tag is used, (I'm leaving

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Bench: replace seats by capacity

Hello, Le 29.09.22 à 19:11, Anne-Karoline Distel a écrit : I don't have a number of 3-4 friends with me when I'm mapping to test the bench really ? sitting in the middle of the bench, I have an idea if the bench is 2-3-4 seats, in the same way that a friend of yours could see for himself if he