[Tagging] Call for Pictures

2023-12-16 Thread Asa Hundert
Hello, Out of interesting talk on the community forum about hiking techniques https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/99869 the idea for a key to tag certain challenges for pedestrians emerged and I split that to https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/106865 summarizing terms there. Word was,

Re: [Tagging] [RFC] Feature Proposal - Wave Lounger

2023-07-05 Thread Asa Hundert
Following discussions in various places, I came to the conclusion that the loungers I care about are not the loungers documented as such under the amenity=lounger tag, but rather a kind of bench https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:bench%3Dwave_lounger Thank you all for participating. Now

Re: [Tagging] [RFC] Feature Proposal - Wave Lounger

2023-07-02 Thread Asa Hundert
I want this amenable to consumers. If I were to propose an attribute to the other tag, I'd have to propose to deprecate the uses on areas that allows for such atrocities as "amenity=lounger; surface=grass". ___ Tagging mailing list

Re: [Tagging] [RFC] Feature Proposal - Wave Lounger

2023-07-02 Thread Asa Hundert
Am So., 2. Juli 2023 um 10:10 Uhr schrieb Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging > > Why not subtag for https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dlounger ? That other tag can be applied to areas in two different ways: either representing a single item - or as a place, where

[Tagging] [RFC] Feature Proposal - Wave Lounger

2023-07-01 Thread Asa Hundert
Please weigh in on this proposed new tag, here, in the community forum, in the wiki talk page: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposal:Wave_lounger Looking forward ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Tagging] Foot / sidewalk access tagging

2022-12-19 Thread Asa Hundert
Am So., 18. Dez. 2022 um 21:32 Uhr schrieb Brian M. Sperlongano : > > I recently came across an unexpected tagging combination and I would like to > understand how folks in various places would interpret this: > > highway= > foot=no > sidewalk=separate > > In my software's logic, I've made the

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - highway=scramble

2022-11-21 Thread Asa Hundert
There is still considerable heat in the voting. Ballot casting time will be extended to give three weeks of voting. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/highway=scramble Hungerburg ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org

[Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - highway=scramble

2022-11-09 Thread Asa Hundert
Voting has started for Highway=Scramble. The proposal underwent substantial changes during RfC. I am much obliged to all those who did contribute sound advice and helped shape the proposal. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/highway=scramble Hungerburg

Re: [Tagging] Tagging standards [moved from osmf-talk]

2022-10-24 Thread Asa Hundert
Am Mo., 24. Okt. 2022 um 01:05 Uhr schrieb Illia Marchenko : > > I suggest alternative solution: some machine readable spec, which defines > mapping between stable identifier and tags. For example (XML): > > > […] In XML, ids must be unique. Did you mean "my personal notion of what this

Re: [Tagging] Better term for unisex

2022-10-10 Thread Asa Hundert
Am Mo., 10. Okt. 2022 um 19:42 Uhr schrieb Amanda McCann : > > I'm a native English speaker, and I agree! I also wrote that part of the wiki > (years ago). I think some non-native speakers treated `unisex=yes` as meaning > “gender segregated but male & female are available”, i.e. read that

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - highway=scramble

2022-10-04 Thread Asa Hundert
Hallo Georg, I guess your demands are met by the proposal in current state. I'd say, now only people that would oppose introduction of "highway=steps" , because we can map hw=path+steps=yes can oppose "highway=scramble", not the least, due to your nagging :) What do you think? Convenience link

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - highway=scramble

2022-09-26 Thread Asa Hundert
Nearly two weeks passed since the RfC started. Quite some changes have happened. I’d like to invite a second reading, to help weed out remaining problems. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/highway=scramble Please comment in the medium of your choice. Thank you in advance

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - highway=scramble

2022-09-26 Thread Asa Hundert
Thank you Alan for the insightful comment. The scrambles I have in mind require little to no generalization step. This is the concept that I was missing to understand some previous comments. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - highway=scramble

2022-09-23 Thread Asa Hundert
Thank you Volker for linking cai_scale. During my research on the subject, I learned, that the SAC itself is using its scales quite like the CAI, as a means to note hikers about requirements of what in OSM are called "routes", something, which starts at a POI and has a POI as its goal, where the

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - highway=scramble

2022-09-17 Thread Asa Hundert
Hello Georg, yes, Ueli Steck certainly is the wrong person, to grade anything openstreetmap trails. I was a bit surprised, that openstreetmap does not have a path up Eiger. If so, I'd propose "highway=mountaineering" for it, just like the one up Mönch, which now is T6 in fine-print, while

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - highway=scramble

2022-09-16 Thread Asa Hundert
Am Fr., 16. Sept. 2022 um 00:24 Uhr schrieb Kevin Kenny : > > yeah, looks like a YDS class 2, or `sac_scale=hiking`. Maybe > `mountain_hiking` if that talus is unstable, because then you start to need > some technique. I know some runners who would do that barefoot, but I think > they're nuts.

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - highway=scramble

2022-09-15 Thread Asa Hundert
Am Do., 15. Sept. 2022 um 00:30 Uhr schrieb martianfreeloader : > > Imo, scramble would not only include via ferrata. Unlike what I wrote yesterday, there is indeed some overlap of scramble and via ferrata. There are via ferratas, that can be hiked/scrambled without gear: Where the tourism office

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - highway=scramble

2022-09-15 Thread Asa Hundert
Am Do., 15. Sept. 2022 um 00:09 Uhr schrieb Peter Elderson : > > I like this proposed highway value. I would probably apply it to the actual > scramble sections, though, not including path sections leading up to the > scramble part. Renderers can then show the actual scramble sections. Well,

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - highway=scramble

2022-09-15 Thread Asa Hundert
Am Do., 15. Sept. 2022 um 21:15 Uhr schrieb Kevin Kenny : > I don't usually bother breaking up a way by scale if there are no > intersections or PoI's along it. There may be flat spots in among the > scrambles, and I generally don't bother trying to distinguish them. In my opinion, this is

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - highway=scramble

2022-09-14 Thread Asa Hundert
No idea, what should come first, and what should wait. Personally, I do not see much overlap between a scramble and a via ferrata. A via ferrata is a highway, where people follow a steel cable and enjoy some easy climbing, all the while following a simple process, carabiner click click, so they

[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - highway=scramble

2022-09-14 Thread Asa Hundert
It is proposed to create the tag highway=scramble as a base tag for hiking paths, where use of hands is required, be that for keeping balance or be it for pulling up. Please discuss this proposal on its Wiki Talk page, https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Proposed_features/highway%3Dscramble