Re: [Tagging] Stop sign?

2012-11-20 Thread David ``Smith''
On Nov 20, 2012 4:41 PM, LM_1 flukas.robot+...@gmail.com wrote: Is there any distinction for direction of the sign? LM_1 It's understood that the sign faces traffic approaching an intersection. If a node with highway=stop is on a way but nowhere near an intersection, or roughly halfway between

Re: [Tagging] Proposal: expanded address tags for US

2012-11-20 Thread David ``Smith''
On Nov 20, 2012 5:42 PM, Martin Koppenhöfer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: Am 20/nov/2012 um 08:05 schrieb David ``Smith'' vidthe...@gmail.com: That varies by city. In Cleveland, this is true. But in Columbus, 200 North Third Street and 200 South Third Street are two distinct addresses

Re: [Tagging] Proposal: expanded address tags for US

2012-11-19 Thread David ``Smith''
On Nov 19, 2012 4:52 AM, Clay Smalley claysmal...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 3:20 PM, Tobias Knerr o...@tobias-knerr.de wrote: To me, the straightforward solution would be: addr:housenumber = 6345 addr:street = W. Euclid Avenue (maybe without the abbreviation) To add to

Re: [Tagging] Fixed caravan site

2012-11-17 Thread David ``Smith''
On Nov 17, 2012 2:57 PM, ael law_ence@ntlworld.com wrote: I am a little suprised that josm does not seem to have a preset for a fixed caravan /mobile home park. Am I missing something? All I found on the wiki was the proposal amenity=trailer_park which I have used for now. That has a

Re: [Tagging] Tag ref on motorway_link

2012-10-23 Thread David ``Smith''
On Oct 23, 2012 9:32 PM, Richard Welty rwe...@averillpark.net wrote: by convention, ref tags get rendered on the map I think the main Mapnik rendering does not render ref on highway=*_link, actually. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Tagging] Tag ref on motorway_link

2012-10-23 Thread David ``Smith''
On Oct 24, 2012 12:25 AM, Andrew Errington erringt...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 10:31 AM, Richard Welty rwe...@averillpark.net wrote: this is why i don't put New York State Reference Route numbers in the ref tag, i put them in ref:unsigned which isn't rendered. Isn't that

[Tagging] How to tag railroad named control points?

2012-10-13 Thread David ``Smith''
My employer is a contractor for a few railroads, and through that experience I have gained personal knowlege of several named control points for one railroad in particular. A control point typically consists of signals facing both ways, switch tracks to transfer between multiple mainline tracks

Re: [Tagging] What is and what isn't a valid type=multipolygon relation for osm ?

2012-10-13 Thread David ``Smith''
On Oct 13, 2012 11:12 AM, sly (sylvain letuffe) li...@letuffe.org wrote: In response to this change on the wiki : http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Relation%3Amultipolygonaction=historysubmitdiff=820392oldid=797879 I mostly agree with the added text, with the following criticism:

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - highway=escape_lane

2012-10-12 Thread David ``Smith''
I agree this should be highway=service, service=escape_lane. Also note, if I'm thinking of the right thing, in the US this is usually called a runaway truck ramp. This phrase should appear in the feature docuentation somewhere. ___ Tagging mailing list

Re: [Tagging] access restrictions on ways

2012-09-17 Thread David ``Smith''
Excuse me if I don't understand the situation entirely, but I think the problem is the actual access restriction or enforcement of it is different from a literal reading of the signs. This must be the case if the signs don't give adequate information to completely describe the restriction. In

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - key:branch

2012-09-13 Thread David ``Smith''
On Sep 13, 2012 6:54 AM, Andrew Errington erringt...@gmail.com wrote: Hello everyone, This is my first proposal for a key that I feel is missing. I have searched, but I couldn't find anything to suggest it has been rejected before, but I could be wrong. You will find the details here, but

Re: [Tagging] name of river/admin area

2012-09-03 Thread David ``Smith''
In my part of the US, nearly every river is of the form the X River and I would expect to see it that way on maps, leaving out the the which is used in forming sentences but not generally considered part of the name. In Michigan there's the River Raisin for some reason, and I would expect to see

Re: [Tagging] name of river/admin area

2012-09-03 Thread David ``Smith''
Oh yes I forgot to mention: NYC would be name=New York, and maybe tourist_name=New York City. If we have a tag for the full name of the city government, such as City Of New York or Village Of West Jefferson, then so be it, but that doesn't go in name=*.

Re: [Tagging] name of river/admin area

2012-09-03 Thread David ``Smith''
On Sep 3, 2012 8:57 PM, Jaakko Helleranta.com jaa...@helleranta.com wrote: My 10 years of ESL in English speaking environment would tend to think that you could do this for almost any X City - voters of the City of X. .. Not true in general. I think the main reason New York gets City appended so

Re: [Tagging] landuse=residential in rural areas

2012-08-17 Thread David ``Smith''
As others have said, I usually tag the entire parcel, as long as it's not used for farming. I'd somewhat like a way to tag low-density rural residential land-use, but as it is I think the absence of a thick network of residential streets is a decent clue that one isn't looking at a built-up area.

Re: [Tagging] on the name of a tag for landcover

2012-08-15 Thread David ``Smith''
I thought we used natural=* for this kind of thing. For the different broad classes of vegetation discussed so far in this thread, there's natural=grass/scrub/wood. Of course there's natural=water. Other landcover types are uncommon in central Ohio so I'm not familiar with their tagging, but I

Re: [Tagging] Advice clarification of the railway tracks=* tag required.

2012-08-14 Thread David ``Smith''
Here's how I'd address the concerns in this thread: tracks=*: number of tracks represented by the way having the tag, as per wiki total_tracks=*: number of tracks in the right-of-way of the rail line, regardless of how many parallel ways exist. This sounds more like a tag appropriate for a rail

Re: [Tagging] Advice clarification of the railway tracks=* tag required.

2012-08-14 Thread David ``Smith''
On Aug 14, 2012 6:43 AM, Pieren pier...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 12:31 PM, David ``Smith'' vidthe...@gmail.com wrote: tracks=*: number of tracks represented by the way having the tag, as per wiki total_tracks=*: number of tracks in the right-of-way of the rail line

Re: [Tagging] Advice clarification of the railway tracks=* tag required.

2012-08-14 Thread David ``Smith''
On Aug 14, 2012 7:48 AM, Pieren pier...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 1:03 PM, David ``Smith'' vidthe...@gmail.com wrote: A little bit of redundancy is fine if it makes the data significantly easier to use, IMO. Excepted that ITO map is interpreting the tag as it is documented

Re: [Tagging] Advice clarification of the railway tracks=* tag required.

2012-08-14 Thread David ``Smith''
On Aug 14, 2012 8:47 AM, Pieren pier...@gmail.com wrote: I'm forwarding here the reply from Peter Miller, ITO World: An automated approach would involve merging all close tracks and figuring it out. Not trivial but quite computable in my view.

Re: [Tagging] Recognizing backward/forward parts of a road

2012-08-06 Thread David ``Smith''
If you're using member roles to distinguish the oneway halves of a route, practice in the US is to use the roles east and west or north and south as appropriate (consistent with signage if possible). (I understand some countries don't sign directions this way, so you might have to choose

Re: [Tagging] Ferry routes, what's the correct approach?

2012-07-31 Thread David ``Smith''
I think access=fee, or access=yes + fee=yes would be appropriate. How do access=fee compare with access=customers in existing usage? (I tried to look it up myself on tagwatch, but my phone didn't like it much) On Jul 31, 2012 5:59 PM, Georg Feddern o...@bavarianmallet.de wrote: Am 31.07.2012

Re: [Tagging] Data redundancy with ref tag on ways vs relations

2012-07-30 Thread David ``Smith''
Route relations are good because they offer a structured format to identify and describe a route, such as US Bike Route 25, or Fairfield County Highway 177. Ref tags on ways now are a good place to use shorthand, like USBR 25 or CR 177. When multiple routes overlap, the ref tag on the way is an

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a trailer_park ?

2012-07-27 Thread David ``Smith''
In the US (context established in first post), trailer park nearly always refers to a residential subdivision where people buy small lots, and then place mobile homes on those lots for permanent residence. I would suggest tagging the area with landuse=residential, and possibly some kind of

Re: [Tagging] emergency=fire_hydrant and wrenches

2012-07-24 Thread David ``Smith''
Useful to whom? The local fire department should already know, and nobody else should be authorized to open the hydrant anyway — though it seems the biggest reason departments object to unauthorized access is damage caused by using the wrong kind of wrench…

Re: [Tagging] drinkable vs. drinking_water

2012-07-22 Thread David ``Smith''
Barnes p...@trigpoint.me.uk wrote: On Sat, 2012-07-21 at 11:43 -0400, David ``Smith'' wrote: Just contributing another data point on vocabulary… I am a native English speaker from Ohio, USA. I have been aware of the term potable for many years, probably since asking what it meant after

Re: [Tagging] drinkable vs. drinking_water

2012-07-21 Thread David ``Smith''
Just contributing another data point on vocabulary… I am a native English speaker from Ohio, USA. I have been aware of the term potable for many years, probably since asking what it meant after seeing a water source labeled non-potable. I have seen that warning on taps in public parks, and on

Re: [Tagging] Tagging split exit ramps

2011-05-21 Thread David ``Smith''
/ I-71, towards Cleveland Cincinnati. Take the left fork in the ramp, for I-71 South, towards Cincinnati. Take the right fork in the ramp, for SR-3 Cleveland Ave...) -- David Smith a.k.a. Vid the Kid a.k.a. Bír'd'in Does this font make me look fat

Re: [Tagging] sidewalks

2010-08-26 Thread David ``Smith''
based on data with streets and sidewalks separated, should almost certainly include instructions like Cross Drury Lane. -- David Smith a.k.a. Vid the Kid a.k.a. Bír'd'in Does this font make me look fat? ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging

Re: [Tagging] RFC on two proposals: Motorway indication; Expressway indication

2010-07-16 Thread David ``Smith''
On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 9:40 PM, Bill Ricker bill.n1...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 12:32 AM, David ``Smith'' vidthe...@gmail.com wrote:  You might be thinking, what's an expressway?  The short answer is, it's just like a freeway/motorway but with at-grade intersections. Huh

Re: [Tagging] RFC on two proposals: Motorway indication; Expressway indication

2010-07-16 Thread David ``Smith''
On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 4:55 PM, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote: On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 4:39 PM, David ``Smith'' vidthe...@gmail.com wrote: Add to that grade_separated=* and you would indeed describe what is physically a freeway/motorway. What's the point of grade_separated=*?  I thought