Re: [Tagging] [Talk-GB] Fords and how to provide information to help with routing apps

Matija Nalis : > Relatedly, there are: > > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:intermittent > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:flood_prone > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:seasonal > > > which might be useful for such cases. > > -- > Opinions above are GNU-copylefted. > See

Re: [Tagging] shop=gun shop=guns shop=weapons shop=firearms

But "freeway" is de facto equivalent of motorway, right? Regards, Illia. Brian M. Sperlongano : > > yes, but motorway is an exception because it is usually defined by signs >> rather than characteristics (e.g. if the signs are missing but it looks and >> feels like, we use motorroad=yes in some

Re: [Tagging] Adding 'flood' as value to the key 'hazard' (to be used in combination with the tag boundary=hazard)

Just see wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:hazard=flooding Regards, Illia. Cornelia Scholz via Tagging : > Hi all, > > Many thanks for the responses and feedback! :) Here a few comments: > > - The aim would be to collect information on historic floods and community > knowledge of hazard exposure.

Re: [Tagging] shop=gun shop=guns shop=weapons shop=firearms

As possible solution, *shop=weapon* with *sells=firearms;knives*. Regards, Illia. Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging : > OSM Wiki currently claims that > > shop=guns should be replaced by shop=weapons > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Tag:shop%3Dweapons > > Tag:shop=firearms

Re: [Tagging] Tagging proposal On Wheels app 2 - Changing places and changing table

Hi, Robin! Please see wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity=dressing_room Regards, Illia. 22 May 2023, 15:20 : > > > > > *Changing places* > > > > For the moment there is no tag for a changing place: > https://www.changing-places.org/ > > With the On wheels app we want to add > > > >-

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Approved - EV Charging Station Mapping

2 May 2023, 16:52 Marc_marc : > Le 02.05.23 à 14:21, NKA mapper a écrit : > > The EV Charging Station Mapping > > < > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposal:EV_Charging_Station_Mapping> > proposal is now approved > > > I really wonder how we can approve a proposal that makes it impossible >

Re: [Tagging] openGeoDB* discardable ?

As minimum, openGeoDB:auto_update=* (automatic updates not performed), openGeoDB:version=* (no sense outside of openGeoDB) and openGeoDB:layer=* (openGeoDB internal concept) may be dropped without information loss. 22 Apr 2023 г., 12:09 Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging < tagging@openstreetmap.org>:

Re: [Tagging] Is tagging of fuel: assumed to be exhaustive?

Is it not too late to switch to fuel=* and drop fuel:*=*? Marc_marc : > Le 20.04.23 à 03:28, Matija Nalis a écrit : > > On Thu, 20 Apr 2023 00:47:21 +0200, Marc_marc > wrote: > >> Le 19.04.23 à 14:19, Matija Nalis a écrit : > >>> I think that my point remains that: > >>> - one method is clear

Re: [Tagging] unicode in direction_* for guildepost to describe what it is related to, e.g. hiking

Presumably, sign contains symbols (hiker, bicycle and skate) and text. Graeme Fitzpatrick : > Is that actually on the sign? > > If not, it shouldn't be mapped. > ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Tagging] Is tagging of fuel: assumed to be exhaustive?

Niels Elgaard Larsen : > For example if you use the template for restaurants and fast_food (but not > cafes for > some reason) in JOSM, you get a combobox where you can select one or more > values for > "cuisine". I would not assume that if I select indian or sushi that it > excludes asian. >

Re: [Tagging] openGeoDB* discardable ?

Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging : > Given how many of them are (<20 000) I think that bot edit removing > them would be a good idea. > Are you suggesting removing all or just some of them? > ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Tagging] openGeoDB* discardable ?

Marc_marc : > Hello, > > the openGeoDB* tags were added during an import in 2008 [1] in europe > and according to the wiki [2], the osm data maj project is long dead > and was problematic. > years later we still have plenty of occurrences of tag cases > if we had to do it again, current good

Re: [Tagging] Tagging type of ownership of a road

Jens Glad Balchen via Tagging : > Thank you Timeo. > > It seems the designation tag was meant for something else, and only used > for this purpose in the Philippines. Do you think this usage would be > beneficial in other countries? > If the owner of the road can be inferred from its

[Tagging] Status of clothes=motorcycle

One of the wiki editors (Rtfm) insists that the clothes=motorcycle tag has been deprecated in favor of motorcycle:clothes=yes. For me it's not. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Special:MobileDiff/2499835 What do you think? Regards, Illia. ___ Tagging

Re: [Tagging] key covered=* applied to storage tanks

António Madeira : > IlMy problem with storage_tank=open is that it still has ambiguity. Open > where? On the top, on the side? Which side? This is very important in the > case of storage tanks destined to firefighters. > My question is: how to convey the critical information that a storage_tank >

Re: [Tagging] Deprecate sport=cricket_nets

чт, 2 февр. 2023 г., 14:51 Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging < tagging@openstreetmap.org>: > > > > Feb 2, 2023, 12:09 by 61sundow...@gmail.com: > > Again sport=soccer implies a rectangular playing field with goals at > either end - that is physical infrastructure. Without the playing field and >

Re: [Tagging] Deprecate sport=cricket_nets

Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com>: > What do you mean by 'a sport'? > > The sport soccer, for example, could be taken as referring to the > physical infrastructure - goads at either end, a rectangular playing > field. Similar can be said of many OSM 'sports'. So I don't see that as > being a good

Re: [Tagging] leisure=practice_pitch a bad idea because too overspecific for a main tag ?

Marc_marc : > Hello, > > Le 30.01.23 à 16:24, Illia Marchenko a écrit : > > leisure=practice_pitch is not suitable for full game. > > I had not seen that this tag was documented and in the history > we already see the 2 opinions: > when you see an XYZ sports field,

Re: [Tagging] Deprecate sport=cricket_nets

пн, 30 янв. 2023 г., 18:23 Marc_marc : > Le 30.01.23 à 14:54, Illia Marchenko a écrit : > > recommend leisure=practice_pitch > > what's the diff with a leisure=pitch ? > leisure=practice_pitch is not suitable for full ga

[Tagging] Deprecate sport=cricket_nets

Hello everyone, I suggest deprecating sport=cricket_nets on the wiki and recommend leisure=practice_pitch & sport=cricket as a replacement, since sport=* generally refers to a sport, not a physical infrastructure. Regards, Illia. ___ Tagging mailing list

Re: [Tagging] key covered=* applied to storage tanks

António Madeira : > The main issue is not closed water tanks. That can be a default in OSM. > The issue here is how to inform that a storage_tank is open. > Mind you that there is an infinitude of storage tanks types, but for > firefighting, those are almost exclusively made in concrete and are

Re: [Tagging] Private ambulance / patient transport service

Graeme Fitzpatrick : > A suggestion on the forum of amenity=training for the first-air training > side of things + a description of everything else. > Note that the proposal for amenity =training was rejected. wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/training Regards, Illia. >

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Gender

Thanks for the review! I replaced unisex=yes with unisex=only and unisex=separate, except for hairdressers, where unisex=yes is not a problem. Regards, Illia. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Gender

Thanks for feedback! Marc_marc : > Le 17.12.22 à 21:58, Illia Marchenko a écrit : > > Gender proposal is ready for voting. After the previous vote, this > > proposal has been reworked. I plan to start voting in a few days. > > > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Gender

Gender proposal is ready for voting. After the previous vote, this proposal has been reworked. I plan to start voting in a few days. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Proposed_features/Gender ___ Tagging mailing list

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Street vendors

As alternative, I would suggest use either (i) street_vendor=* with values similar to values of the shop=*, for example amenity=street_vendor & street_vendor=snack; or (ii) made values of vending=* similar to values if the shop=*. пн, 7 нояб. 2022 г., 13:01 Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging <

Re: [Tagging] Possible merge of marine_rescue & lifeboat_station tags?

One tag is enough. I prefer emergency=lifeboat_station because "emergency" is a narrower key. вс, 6 нояб. 2022 г., 9:17 Graeme Fitzpatrick : > Some time ago, I raised a proposal for Marine Rescue stations: > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Marine_rescue. > After a few

[Tagging] Feature Proposal - Rejected - Gender

Voting for Gender proposal has been stopped. During the voting process, some issues were raised, and the proposal needs to be improved. wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Gender Ideas are welcome. Regards, Illia. ___ Tagging mailing list

[Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - Gender

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[Tagging] Feature Proposal - Rejected - Training

Training proposal has been rejected. Thanks to everyone who participated and voted. Regards, Illia. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Tagging standards [moved from osmf-talk]

вт, 25 окт. 2022 г., 0:59 Illia Marchenko : > Then so: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > P. S. After https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Tagging standards [moved from osmf-talk]

вт, 25 окт. 2022 г., 0:30 Asa Hundert : > Am Mo., 24. Okt. 2022 um 01:05 Uhr schrieb Illia Marchenko > : > > > > I suggest alternative solution: some machine readable spec, which > defines mapping between stable identifier and tags. For example (XML): > > > >

Re: [Tagging] Tagging standards [moved from osmf-talk]

вс, 23 окт. 2022 г., 22:56 Tomas Straupis : > > As there have been incidents where widespread and basic tags have > been known and widely understood and still some inexperienced people > after several months of "practice" in OSM managed to push changes to > those with devastating effects still

[Tagging] Feature Proposal - Rejected - Privacy

Privacy proposal has been rejected. Thanks to everyone who participated and voted. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Proposed_features/Privacy Regards, Illia. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Tagging] improve the proposal procedure

пт, 21 окт. 2022 г., 2:37 Frederik Ramm : > These people could use their free time to make one successful proposals > instead of five unsuccessful ones that waste everyone's time because > they are half-hearted. > Most of the rejected proposals are good written, but fundamentally broken. The

Re: [Tagging] improve the proposal procedure

чт, 20 окт. 2022 г., 23:07 Marc_marc : > I wasn't talking about asking for control by the osmf, I was just > talking about using the same criteria of active contributors > to avoiding sock-people like last week : if you never map, if you > aren't an active contributor to the osm project, your

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - man made=evaporation tower

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/man_made%3Devaporation_tower чт, 20 окт. 2022 г., 22:25 Illia Marchenko : > Please give link :-) > > чт, 20 окт. 2022 г., 20:57 Kamil Kulawik : > >> Hi! >> >> Voting has started for evaporation towers tagging -

Re: [Tagging] Window tinting?

Maybe craft=window_construction? wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:craft=window_construction чт, 20 окт. 2022 г., 8:35 Graeme Fitzpatrick : > How do you tag businesses doing window tinting for either cars or building > windows? > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Window_film > > Some of the options

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - man made=evaporation tower

Please give link :-) чт, 20 окт. 2022 г., 20:57 Kamil Kulawik : > Hi! > > Voting has started for evaporation towers tagging - > man_made=evaporation_tower. > > Please vote on the Wiki! > > - Coolawik > >

Re: [Tagging] improve the proposal procedure

чт, 20 окт. 2022 г., 15:44 Peter Elderson : > Proposing and voting should not be hard, so you always get some lesser > quality stuff. > For example, I will accept any constructive feedback for my proposal. But "it is lesser quality stuff" is very subjective. Any proposal are either good or bad.

Re: [Tagging] improve the proposal procedure

I think that additional restrictions are unnecessary, unless proper reason. чт, 20 окт. 2022 г., 15:44 Peter Elderson : > I agree that it got a little out of hand, but there were some good > proposals and votes as well. > Proposing and voting should not be hard, so you always get some lesser >

[Tagging] Feature Proposal - Rejected - Gender

Voting has been stopped for Gender proposal. This proposal needs some rework. wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Gender ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

[Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - Gender

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Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - pickup

сб, 15 окт. 2022 г., 18:36 Volker Schmidt : > amenity=parcel_locker is used 26k times. > amenity=vending_machine + vending_machine=pickup is use 16 k times and > deprecated > So why should we abandon amenity=parcel_locker and create a new key with > duplicate meaning . > I agree.

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - pickup

сб, 15 окт. 2022 г., 11:41 Volker Schmidt : > Around here we have many instances of self-service parcel-locker inside a > shop that is inside a building. The shop does not occupy the entire > building, the locker is only accessible during shop opening times. > > There are also pick-up points in

Re: [Tagging] camp sites in Haiti

I think that amenity=refugee_site & fixme=Review may be solution, it isn't the ideal, but are better then leave "as is". ср, 12 окт. 2022 г., 11:54 Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com>: > > On 12/10/22 02:05, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: > > > Would it be possible to re-tag those refugee camps in an

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Water outlet

вт, 11 окт. 2022 г., 11:48 Martin Koppenhoefer : > On the other hand, if you are looking for places to do sports, it is not > sufficient to look at leisure=pitch if you want to find all of them. > Of course. Hierarchical tagging. leisure = pitch & sport = *. >

Re: [Tagging] Better term for unisex

пн, 10 окт. 2022 г., 22:31 Marc_marc : > when a =yes tag has different characteristics, > it is easy to add values for the different characteristics > unisexx=segregated unisexx=not-segregated > and given the existence of 2 meanings according to the contributors, > the yes value will have to be

Re: [Tagging] Better term for unisex

Term "unisex" is obvious for me (I am not a native English speaker), but in JOSM validator historically has been rule "replace female=yes & male=yes to unisex=yes". пн, 10 окт. 2022 г., 21:56 martianfreeloader : > Hi Amanda, > > No. > > What puzzles non-native speakers (including myself) is that

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Water outlet

Unification of tags allows more simple usage source data, e.g leisure = pitch allows rendering of all pitches, but lots of tags as leisure=tennis_court, leisure = baseball_playground, leisure = football_ground is more difficult to use. пн, 10 окт. 2022 г., 18:15 Marc_marc : > Le 09.10.22 à

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Water outlet

вс, 9 окт. 2022 г., 9:50 Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com>: > On 8/10/22 20:49, Illia Marchenko wrote: > > Water outlets for public or customer use (generic tagging). > > > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Proposed_features/Water_outlet > > Please dis

[Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - Training

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[Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - Training

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Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Water outlet

I withdrew this proposal. Thanks for your feedback! ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] not:brand:wikidata?

Prefix not:*=* used for prevention mistakes. In this context, wikidata entry from not:brand:wikidata=* in irrelevant. сб, 8 окт. 2022 г., 16:43 Dave F via Tagging : > Hi > > What is 'not:brand:wikidata'? > > There are 5000+ in the database. Can't see any wiki details. > I'm struggling to

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Water outlet

This proposal is response to long discussion about deprecation of man_made=drinking_fountain. This is unrelated to other proposals, either my own or resubmitted. сб, 8 окт. 2022 г., 14:05 Marc_marc : > Le 08.10.22 à 11:49, Illia Marchenko a écrit : > > Water outlets for public or cus

[Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - Privacy

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[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Water outlet

Water outlets for public or customer use (generic tagging). https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Proposed_features/Water_outlet Please discuss this proposal on its Wiki Talk page. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Tagging] Deprecation proposal: man_made=drinking_fountain

Alternative to the sport=soccer is sport=british_football because "football" is context specific, and "American football", "Australian football", "Canadian football", "Gaelic football" exists. ср, 5 окт. 2022 г., 13:52 martianfreeloader : > There is a broad consensus that the language for OSM

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Swimwear

> > Swimwear policy of the facility. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Proposed_features/Swimwear Please discuss this proposal on its Wiki Talk page. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Tagging] Terminology primary feature, main tag, etc..

1) Yes, it is. 2) I don't know. Regards, Illia. вс, 2 окт. 2022 г., 20:40 martianfreeloader : > Hi, > > I'm unsure if I'm using correct terminology. I have come across these > terms in the OSM ecosystem: > > - primary feature [1] > - main key [2] > - primary key [3] > - feature tag [4] > > 1)

[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Clothing

Clothing policy of the facility (old proposal, but renewed). https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Proposed_features/Clothing Please discuss this proposal on its Wiki Talk page. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Gender

My apologies, unisex=segregated ср, 28 сент. 2022 г., 12:50 Illia Marchenko : > The normal meaning of the term unisex is "gender neutral", so unisex=mixed > sounds weird. > > ср, 28 сент. 2022 г., 10:39 Marc_marc : > >> Le 28.09.22 à 01:34, Illia Marchenko a écrit

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Gender

The normal meaning of the term unisex is "gender neutral", so unisex=mixed sounds weird. ср, 28 сент. 2022 г., 10:39 Marc_marc : > Le 28.09.22 à 01:34, Illia Marchenko a écrit : > > gender=mixed/segregated has clear semantics. > > this shows that there i

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Gender

For example, gender segregated toilets: gender=segregated instead of female=yes & male=yes. Or unisex toilet: gender=mixed instead of unisex=yes. ср, 28 сент. 2022 г., 2:52 Sebastian Martin Dicke < sebastianmartindi...@gmx.de>: > It could be useful to give examples in which cases which tagging

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Gender

This key can be used together with or instead of female=*, male=*, unisex=* or combinations thereof. The motivation is that the meaning of unisex=yes remains undefined, but gender=mixed/segregated has clear semantics. ср, 28 сент. 2022 г., 2:24 Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging <

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Gender

Gender destination of the facility. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Proposed_features/Gender Please discuss this proposal on its Wiki Talk page. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Training

Maybe also amenity=university, but this out of scope of this proposal. вт, 27 сент. 2022 г., 1:27 Graeme Fitzpatrick : > > On Tue, 27 Sept 2022 at 02:10, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging < > tagging@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > >> >> What about universities where future sailors/pilots are training

[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Training

Training centers (reactivated proposal). https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/training Please discuss this proposal on its Wiki Talk page. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org

[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Privacy

Property key privacy=stalls/partitions/communal_room/no that indicates whether shower or other feature offers a privacy or not. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Proposed_features/Privacy Please discuss this proposal on its Wiki Talk page.