Re: [Tagging] The saga of landuse=reservoir vs water=reservoir

2020-12-16 Thread Joseph Guillaume
anduse=basin (or if you prefer water=basin) > with basin=detention or basin=infiltration? > > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:landuse%3Dbasin > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dam_(agricultural_reservoir) > > -- Joseph Eisenberg > > On Wed, Dec 16, 2020 at 1:

Re: [Tagging] The saga of landuse=reservoir vs water=reservoir

2020-12-16 Thread Joseph Guillaume
This discussion has convinced me not to use landuse=reservoir. It sounds like the only benefit is its historical use, whereas I've personally seen benefits of the natural=water approach. I've mapped quite a number of farm dams as natural=water without being sure what subtag to use. I now think

Re: [Tagging] Should the tag proposal process force voters to vote for an option?

2020-10-12 Thread Joseph Guillaume
The statement I disagree with is that "We shouldn’t be in a situation where there is no approved way to map a mapable feature just because the community doesn’t agree completely on how to map it." Nobody needs approval to map anything in OSM, so approval only really matters when there is a

Re: [Tagging] "Feature Proposal - RFC - Qanat"

2020-06-22 Thread Joseph Guillaume
=554179257#map=17/33.44256/50.80580 On Mon, Jun 22, 2020 at 4:24 PM Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > > sent from a phone > > > On 22. Jun 2020, at 00:07, Joseph Guillaume > wrote: > > > > only some qanats are of historic value > > > while I don’t think the

Re: [Tagging] "Feature Proposal - RFC - Qanat"

2020-06-21 Thread Joseph Guillaume
Hi all, I've been in touch with the person who's mapped a lot of the waterway=canal+man_made=canal, and they didn't have any specific rationale. After seeing the proposal page, their preferred tagging is: canal=qanat elevation=-3 layer=-3 location=underground name=Bir.1.2 status=abandoned or

Re: [Tagging] "Feature Proposal - RFC - Qanat"

2020-06-21 Thread Joseph Guillaume
Agreed, but just to be clear as it applies to this proposal, in OpenStreetMap-land, that ship has sailed. A canal describes "An artificial open flow waterway used to carry useful water for transportation, waterpower, or irrigation" https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:waterway%3Dcanal We've

Re: [Tagging] "Feature Proposal - RFC - Qanat"

2020-06-20 Thread Joseph Guillaume
Hi Martin, I may not fully understand the historic tag, but to me it is unlikely that every qanat is of historic interest, "of sufficient importance to justify use of this tag". In some areas, every village has three qanats. It would be like mapping every fountain as historic. They're often not

Re: [Tagging] "Feature Proposal - RFC - Qanat"

2020-06-20 Thread Joseph Guillaume
Hi Martin, > for me „historic“ does not necessarily imply it is not active. That's right - what I meant is that we should not treat every qanat as historic just because it is old. So we need to map the fact there is a qanat, and then someone with local knowledge needs to map whether it is

Re: [Tagging] "Feature Proposal - RFC - Qanat"

2020-06-19 Thread Joseph Guillaume
, but historic=aqueduct is not appropriate. Cheers, Joseph On Sat., 20 Jun. 2020, 9:36 am Martin Koppenhoefer, wrote: > > > sent from a phone > > On 20. Jun 2020, at 00:59, Joseph Guillaume > wrote: > > I just wanted to emphasise that this proposal isn't really about

[Tagging] "Feature Proposal - RFC - Qanat"

2020-06-19 Thread Joseph Guillaume
Hi all, I just wanted to emphasise that this proposal isn't really about whether to tag qanats - it's about whether to tag them with man_made=qanat or waterway=canal+canal=qanat. There's already 1000 tagged, and they're very patchy geographically. It's quite likely there's upwards of 100,000 It

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC canal=qanat

2018-09-01 Thread Joseph Guillaume
Sat, Sep 1, 2018 at 5:09 PM Joseph Guillaume wrote: > Hi, > > I'm planning to map some qanats, underground channels for conveying > groundwater that have vertical excavation shafts visible from the > surface/aerial imagery (see proposal for example). > > This was previo

[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC canal=qanat

2018-09-01 Thread Joseph Guillaume
Hi, I'm planning to map some qanats, underground channels for conveying groundwater that have vertical excavation shafts visible from the surface/aerial imagery (see proposal for example). This was previously discussed in 2013. Since then, the role of different waterway tags has been clarified,