Re: [Tagging] A modest proposal to increase the usefulness of the tagging list

On Wed, Jun 5, 2019 at 6:05 AM John Willis via Tagging wrote: > On Jun 4, 2019, at 2:40 PM, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > > Or you will use. > Thanks for handling man_made bridge. I use it a lot. > > The only comment to this idea of “make tags for you to use” is that if you > invent a tagging

Re: [Tagging] A modest proposal to increase the usefulness of the tagging list

> On Jun 4, 2019, at 2:40 PM, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > > Or you will use. Thanks for handling man_made bridge. I use it a lot. The only comment to this idea of “make tags for you to use” is that if you invent a tagging method for a particular type of object, that you include similar

Re: [Tagging] A modest proposal to increase the usefulness of the tagging list

2 Jun 2019, 12:10 by frede...@remote.org: > - propose tags only if you, personally, have solid demand for it (i.e. > you have already mapped, or intend to map, the feature intensively). > This puts a practical limit to idle tag fantasising. Everyone can think > of something that doesn't have a

Re: [Tagging] A modest proposal to increase the usefulness of the tagging list

> Op 3 jun. 2019 om 15:02 heeft Florian Lohoff het volgende > geschreven: > >> On Mon, Jun 03, 2019 at 11:11:50AM +0200, Peter Elderson wrote: >> LS >> I agree that email is not the best tool for discussions. The main thing for >> me is that the world of email is no longer limited to one

Re: [Tagging] A modest proposal to increase the usefulness of the tagging list

On Mon, Jun 03, 2019 at 11:11:50AM +0200, Peter Elderson wrote: > LS > I agree that email is not the best tool for discussions. The main thing for > me is that the world of email is no longer limited to one mailer. It is not > possible to make them all thread and separate and quote exactly as I

Re: [Tagging] A modest proposal to increase the usefulness of the tagging list

Le 03.06.19 à 11:11, Peter Elderson a écrit : > in favour of moving to the forum it's a totally personal choice. some prefer emails because it is easier to apply the criteria of your choice (read everything, or filter according to flexible criteria). if you prefer a forum/web interface, why

Re: [Tagging] A modest proposal to increase the usefulness of the tagging list

LS I agree that email is not the best tool for discussions. The main thing for me is that the world of email is no longer limited to one mailer. It is not possible to make them all thread and separate and quote exactly as I would like. Basically, it's just a list of mails without any logical

Re: [Tagging] A modest proposal to increase the usefulness of the tagging list

>> longish off topic discussions You can not get context nor understand the usage situations in other regions without this. If you want to tag just England, then the tags definitions will match everyone’s expectations. Trying to map Africa, SE asia, and America with the same tags is

Re: [Tagging] A modest proposal to increase the usefulness of the tagging list

in your email program of choice, sort anything with the tagging address in it into a separate folder. you can also thread your email and follow what you are interested in / have valid input in. > > horse mounting blocks I can safely ignore horse mounting blocks until voting because I have

Re: [Tagging] A modest proposal to increase the usefulness of the tagging list

On 02/06/19 20:10, Frederik Ramm wrote: Hi, On 6/2/19 10:47, Simon Poole wrote: In the interest of keeping the list at least half usable, I would suggest that we all, starting now, voluntarily submit to: - not posting more than 30 times per month (the 30 comes from the WMF mailing lists,

Re: [Tagging] A modest proposal to increase the usefulness of the tagging list

(not read the whole thread as there are far too many from you, Simon.) What is WMF ? When you say "not posting more than 30 times per month" do you mean thread starts or are you including responses? Never understood the criticism of "noise" - if you don't like it, ignore it. These are

Re: [Tagging] A modest proposal to increase the usefulness of the tagging list

Yes it would work and I would highly appreciate it because it's easier for me to maintain a discussion page than a discussion on a mailing list. A discussion page gives me more control of the discussion itself which is needed for moderating.CheersSören alias Valor Naram Original Message

Re: [Tagging] A modest proposal to increase the usefulness of the tagging list

Maybe we don't hold discussions on the list, but only have them on the discussion page of the proposal? Post to the list to say: Title: Proposal re I've come up with a proposal for Link: y Possibly include a brief synopsis of the

Re: [Tagging] A modest proposal to increase the usefulness of the tagging list

Le 02.06.19 à 10:47, Simon Poole a écrit : > I would suggest that we all, starting now, voluntarily submit to: I will add the suggestion of a useful quoting. a 4-sheet reply where you have to find in it the only line that is not a quote, it's indigestible, a waste of time and clarity Le 02.06.19

Re: [Tagging] A modest proposal to increase the usefulness of the tagging list

; To: Tag discussion, strategy and related tools >> >> Subject: [Tagging] A modest proposal to increase the usefulness of >> the tagging list >> >> As a reader of this list I'm slightly overwhelmed by it right now. >> >> Besides the longish off topic discussions

Re: [Tagging] A modest proposal to increase the usefulness of the tagging list

> Sent: Sunday, 2 June 2019 18:48 > To: Tag discussion, strategy and related tools > > Subject: [Tagging] A modest proposal to increase the usefulness of > the tagging list > > As a reader of this list I'm slightly overwhelmed by it right now. > > Besides the longish off t

Re: [Tagging] A modest proposal to increase the usefulness of the tagging list

Am 02.06.2019 um 15:41 schrieb Paul Allen: > On Sun, 2 Jun 2019 at 14:17, Simon Poole > wrote: > > Am 02.06.2019 um 14:40 schrieb Paul Allen: >> >> As I already said, I understand your frustration.  > > No, obviously you don't. > > > Really?  You looked inside

Re: [Tagging] A modest proposal to increase the usefulness of the tagging list

On Sun, 2 Jun 2019 at 14:17, Simon Poole wrote: Am 02.06.2019 um 14:40 schrieb Paul Allen: > > > As I already said, I understand your frustration. > > No, obviously you don't. > Really? You looked inside my head and determined that I do not understand your frustration. And here I was thinking

Re: [Tagging] A modest proposal to increase the usefulness of the tagging list

Am 02.06.2019 um 14:40 schrieb Paul Allen: > On Sun, 2 Jun 2019 at 09:49, Simon Poole > wrote: > > > In the interest of keeping the list at least half usable, I would > suggest that we all, starting now, voluntarily submit to: > > > [...] > > I don't doubt your

Re: [Tagging] A modest proposal to increase the usefulness of the tagging list

On Sun, 2 Jun 2019 at 13:39, Frederik Ramm wrote: > > On 6/2/19 13:17, Christoph Hormann wrote: > > Note there have been in the past opinions that documenting a new tag > > without creating a proposal is not desirable > > That is also my opinion, however, I don't see anything wrong with >

Re: [Tagging] A modest proposal to increase the usefulness of the tagging list

On Sun, 2 Jun 2019 at 09:49, Simon Poole wrote: > > In the interest of keeping the list at least half usable, I would > suggest that we all, starting now, voluntarily submit to: > [...] I don't doubt your frustration or your good intentions, but it seems possible that this thread will generate

Re: [Tagging] A modest proposal to increase the usefulness of the tagging list

Hi, On 6/2/19 13:17, Christoph Hormann wrote: > Note there have been in the past opinions that documenting a new tag > without creating a proposal is not desirable That is also my opinion, however, I don't see anything wrong with someone just "trying out" a tag in the "any tags you like" spirit

Re: [Tagging] A modest proposal to increase the usefulness of the tagging list

We should also remember ourselves that we want to talk objectively about topics as often as possible and avoiding debates that are driving too emotional. Sure, everyone is free to express his/her subjective view but it shouldn't enlarge to a emotional debate like in thread

Re: [Tagging] A modest proposal to increase the usefulness of the tagging list

On Sunday 02 June 2019, Simon Poole wrote: > > - not posting more than 30 times per month (the 30 comes from the WMF > mailing lists, where it seems to work quite well) > > - not more than one proposal per person per month > > - not more than 4 new proposals per month in total Note there have

Re: [Tagging] A modest proposal to increase the usefulness of the tagging list

On 02/06/2019 10:11, Jo wrote: Who's going to keep the tally? Maybe we need an actual tool to help with this (I'm not proposing to write one or figure what could be used for doing so). Create a shell script called something like "taglistpeople.sh" containing: lynx -width=1024 --dump

Re: [Tagging] A modest proposal to increase the usefulness of the tagging list

sent from a phone > On 2. Jun 2019, at 10:47, Simon Poole wrote: > > In the interest of keeping the list at least half usable, I would > suggest that we all, starting now, voluntarily submit to: > > - not posting more than 30 times per month (the 30 comes from the WMF > mailing lists, where

Re: [Tagging] A modest proposal to increase the usefulness of the tagging list

Hi, On 6/2/19 10:47, Simon Poole wrote: > In the interest of keeping the list at least half usable, I would > suggest that we all, starting now, voluntarily submit to: > > - not posting more than 30 times per month (the 30 comes from the WMF > mailing lists, where it seems to work quite well) >

Re: [Tagging] A modest proposal to increase the usefulness of the tagging list

I'm suggesting that everybody is grown up enough to self limit themselves. Outside of that, when in doubt a quick look at the months archive is all that is really needed. Simon Am 2. Juni 2019 11:11:36 MESZ schrieb Jo : >Who's going to keep the tally? Maybe we need an actual tool to help >with

Re: [Tagging] A modest proposal to increase the usefulness of the tagging list

Who's going to keep the tally? Maybe we need an actual tool to help with this (I'm not proposing to write one or figure what could be used for doing so). But what if the 4 proposals are reached? Or someone feels the need to post 40 comments during a month? How do we stop the flood? Polyglot On

[Tagging] A modest proposal to increase the usefulness of the tagging list

As a reader of this list I'm slightly overwhelmed by it right now. Besides the longish off topic discussions that should have been held somewhere else, we've had a massive increase in the number of proposals and comments on these. As these typically will require looking at the proposal,