On Fri, 19 Jun 2020 at 17:07, Cj Malone <
me-osm-tagg...@keepawayfromfire.co.uk> wrote:
> It's in Facebooks interest to have OSM be the best it possibly can.
> Facebook doesn't want to be dependant on Google for map data, so they
> are going to try and commoditise map data to improve competition.
Yes, I do no trust FB declarations at all, it FB still refuses to
attribute OSM properly and I hope that FB employees will not be elected into
OSMF board.
But in this case in FB self-interest is to keep this data available to OSM
and I expect that they will continue this.
Jun 19, 2020, 18:05
It's in Facebooks interest to have OSM be the best it possibly can.
Facebook doesn't want to be dependant on Google for map data, so they
are going to try and commoditise map data to improve competition.
Google just released Google Maps SDK for Unity, an API for app
developers to make Pokemon Go
Let's hope the license will be permissive enough for other projects to take
the data and continue their own way. They only said it will be free for
commercial use, but it didn't say free as in beer or what. They said:
> By continuing to make all images uploaded to Mapillary open, public, and
>
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> On 19. Jun 2020, at 11:20, European Water Project
> wrote:
> For how long ?
for as long as Facebook wants. There is also the practical aspect: even if the
license is permissive, it doesn’t imply you can actually get the data for
downloading.
Facebook has changed
What leads you to believe that I am not calm ?
Have a nice day.
On Fri, 19 Jun 2020 at 11:40, Thibault Molleman
wrote:
> Calm down.
> Normally if these images get their license upgraded to this newer license,
> normally it shouldn't be able to be reverted. But we'll see once they
> publish the
Calm down.
Normally if these images get their license upgraded to this newer license,
normally it shouldn't be able to be reverted. But we'll see once they
publish the license.
(I don't really see a reason why Facebook would want to do that though tbh.
Having Mapillary contain as much data as
Hi Thibault,
all the mapillary data is from now free to use, even for commercial use
: "Moving forward, that will continue to be true, except that starting
today, it will also be free to use for commercial users as well"
For how long ? and free in exchange for what --- the ability to place
While I'm not a fan of Facebook either.
If you play devils advocate. they have done some good stuff. and already
notice some good changes to mapilary as well:
- they have done some amazing work with 'map with AI'
- all the mapillary data is from now free to use, even for commercial use :
"Moving
Hopefully a significant level of data openness will continue to be part of
Mapillary's business model.
yes, we can just hope for it. Not more.
Just in case someone missed this, Mapillary has been acquired by Facebook
yesterday...
On Mon, 8 Jun 2020 at 12:14, Janko Mihelić wrote:
> Photos of buildings are even more notable then photos of bicycle parking,
> so I'll try and take photos of a few buildings and see how that goes.
>
> I probably won't be creating a category for each building, so then I will be
> linking to
Dear Martin,
Yes.
In November/December I will start working on an image workflow which will
make Commons the image storage repository for all our and have the
OpenStreetMap object point to the corresponding wikimedia_commons tag.
Best regards,
Stuart
On Tue, 9 Jun 2020 at 12:20, Martin
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> On 8. Jun 2020, at 11:53, European Water Project
> wrote:
>
> Which is why we seek to store user contributed images on Wikimedia Commons
> (if they will accept them) rather than on our server.
+1, I completely agree, of all available options wikimedia commons seems a
Jun 8, 2020, 13:14 by jan...@gmail.com:
> On Fri, Jun 5, 2020, 14:27 Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging <>
> tagging@openstreetmap.org> > wrote:
>
>> Wikimedia Commons has no notability requirements, see
>> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Project_scope
>>
>> It is perfectly fine to
On Fri, Jun 5, 2020, 14:27 Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging <
tagging@openstreetmap.org> wrote:
> Wikimedia Commons has no notability requirements, see
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Project_scope
>
> It is perfectly fine to upload things like that there.
>
Ok, you convinced me.
Hi Martin,
Similarly, our project might not be around forever ... once single-use
plastic is a thing of the past :)
Which is why we seek to store user contributed images on Wikimedia Commons
(if they will accept them) rather than on our server.
https://europeanwaterproject.org/photos/index.html
Am Mo., 8. Juni 2020 um 10:48 Uhr schrieb European Water Project <
europeanwaterproj...@gmail.com>:
> Dear Martin,
>
> For-profit companies have different levels of openness, I think it would
> be a mistake to put them all in the same bucket.
>
> While all their data and images are not open,
Dear Martin,
For-profit companies have different levels of openness, I think it would be
a mistake to put them all in the same bucket.
While all their data and images are not open, Mapillary shares many
geolocalized images through creative commons licensing - in a more open
manner than many
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> On 5. Jun 2020, at 10:14, European Water Project
> wrote:
>
> They also expressed interest in having more Mapillary images linked to OSM
> objects.
from the OpenStreetMap point of view it seems preferable to have the images we
link to available openly. If mapillary
Hi Mateusz,
On Thu, Jun 04, 2020 at 06:13:12PM +0200, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging wrote:
> Jun 4, 2020, 16:00 by vinc...@bergeot.org:
>
> > Le 04/06/2020 à 15:49, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging a écrit :
> >
> >> You have right to use your own images, AFAIK there is also a special
> >>
Following is more on topic than may be expected -
OSM Wiki is illustrated by images from Wikimedia Commons,
and thanks for all people who uploaded things there.
Jun 5, 2020, 09:14 by jan...@gmail.com:
> On Thu, Jun 4, 2020, 16:48 European Water Project <>
> europeanwaterproj...@gmail.com> >
Hi Janko,
Thank you .. it is time to reduce our global reliance on single-use plastic
! We are all ingesting 5 grams each week .. in our fish, vegetables,
meat, and water etc ...
The people at Mapillary with whom I spoke see huge value in single-snap
images - with many possible
On Thu, Jun 4, 2020, 16:48 European Water Project <
europeanwaterproj...@gmail.com> wrote:
> While all three of them have shown enthusiasm, single-snap images are just
> not a priority at this point for Mapillary.
>
This is interesting. Did they say that they don't prefer single-snap images
in
Jun 4, 2020, 16:00 by vinc...@bergeot.org:
> Le 04/06/2020 à 15:49, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging a écrit :
>
>> You have right to use your own images, AFAIK there is also a special
>> permission
>> for OSM mapping but otherwise images are owned by them.
>>
>
> mapillary picture are CC-BY-SA,
Hi Clifford,
Our images get linked to osm object as per the wiki page .. they are added
after manual curation using either the tag image, mapillary or
wikimedia_commons depending on where the image is stored.
We developed the workflow because our users found the workflow below to be
suboptimal :
Don't we already have https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Photo_linking which
is how to add photos for objects?
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Dear Janko,
I have been dialoging with Christopher Beddow, Edoardo Neerhut, and Fredrik
Glans at Mapillary over the past couple of months. While all three of them
have shown enthusiasm, single-snap images are just not a priority at this
point for Mapillary.
Yes, I confirm - nearby images whether
> I almost never found a photo of something I was looking for with OsmAnd's
> "close by Mapillary photos"
I agree
I realise this thread was initially about buildings but when I’m using OsmAnd
to find, for example, a public transport ticket machine at an airport, I want
to see a photo of the
>
> Is it really necessary? "give image for location [lat, lon] from direction
> X" seems a
> basic functionality for service like Mapillary.
>
I almost never found a photo of something I was looking for with OsmAnd's
"close by Mapillary photos". I think Osmand only takes Mapillary photos x
Le 04/06/2020 à 15:49, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging a écrit :
You have right to use your own images, AFAIK there is also a special
permission
for OSM mapping but otherwise images are owned by them.
mapillary picture are CC-BY-SA, you can use pictures and download them
without pay nothing.
Jun 4, 2020, 14:54 by jan...@gmail.com:
> does this community think this would be ridiculous or not?
>
Mapillary has images geolocated anyway, so if someone wants to use Mapillary it
seems
unnecessary.
> Would Mapillary be the right service to host the photos?
>
No. Note
Hi,
On 2020-06-04 14:54, Janko Mihelić wrote:
> I think having a photo of every building, as well as other features like
> public sculptures, memorials, bus stations would be very useful. You
> would be able to click a building, and know what it looks like.
I would not want us to encourage and
I think having a photo of every building, as well as other features like
public sculptures, memorials, bus stations would be very useful. You would
be able to click a building, and know what it looks like.
I had an idea to make an app that shows you a map, and you would click on a
building, take
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