Re: [Tagging] Adding values healthcare=dispensary and healthcare=community_care?

2020-05-25 Thread Enock Seth Nyamador
> > These places have a particular focus on deadly diseases affecting > children, they include prevention, health promotion and curative > activities. Since these don't even have a single nurse as staff, I would > like to propose a separate value such as healthcare=community_care or >

Re: [Tagging] Adding values healthcare=dispensary and healthcare=community_care?

2020-05-25 Thread Manda Andriatsiferana
Wait, I was wrong, it should be: - health facility has doctor -> amenity=doctors + healthcare=* - health facility has no doctor but has nurse -> healthcare=nurse/centre - health facility has neither doctor nor nurse -> amenity=health_post + healthcare=community_health_worker Depends

Re: [Tagging] Adding values healthcare=dispensary and healthcare=community_care?

2020-05-25 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging
May 25, 2020, 14:53 by privatemaj...@gmail.com: > And this leaves no room for amenity=healthcare. Can't we just get a rendering > for amenity=health_post? > Depends on a renderer. Such discussions about features in specific renderers are offtopic here (though "is it possible to render it at

Re: [Tagging] Adding values healthcare=dispensary and healthcare=community_care?

2020-05-25 Thread Manda Andriatsiferana
So, as far as I can understand: - health facility has doctor -> amenity=doctors + healthcare=* - health facility has no doctor -> amenity=health_post + healthcare=centre/nurse/community_health_worker And this leaves no room for amenity=healthcare. Can't we just get a rendering for

Re: [Tagging] Adding values healthcare=dispensary and healthcare=community_care?

2020-05-24 Thread Paul Allen
On Sun, 24 May 2020 at 02:39, Claire Halleux wrote: > > Agreed. Although, I'm not even sure if we should still need > amenity=healthcare or just go without it at some point. > There is a reason why it is still needed. > > Next: let's get them rendered on the map too. > And that's the reason

Re: [Tagging] Adding values healthcare=dispensary and healthcare=community_care?

2020-05-23 Thread Claire Halleux
On Fri, May 22, 2020 at 6:10 PM Mario Frasca wrote: > > in reality, I wish we could review the whole setting. and have > `amenity=healthcare` followed by `healthcare=*` to specify further. > > I find the whole repetition confusing, and quite error prone. > Agreed. Although, I'm not even sure if

Re: [Tagging] Adding values healthcare=dispensary and healthcare=community_care?

2020-05-23 Thread Claire Halleux
@Dolly, Since the referral health centers (centres de santé de référence) are supposed to have at least one doctor in the DRC, they have mainly been mapped with amenity=doctors. Actually the same tag has also often been used to map even the more "basic" health centers without doctors. This could

Re: [Tagging] Adding values healthcare=dispensary and healthcare=community_care?

2020-05-22 Thread Mario Frasca
good day Claire, On 21/05/2020 18:29, Claire Halleux wrote: Hi Mario, […] I'm just interpreting the information at http://www.minsa.gob.pa/cartera-salud/cartera-de-servicio-por-nivel-de-atencion and asking local people for help understanding what I'm reading. […] Are these like

Re: [Tagging] Adding values healthcare=dispensary and healthcare=community_care?

2020-05-22 Thread Mario Frasca
On 21/05/2020 14:28, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: The tag amenity=health_post has been mainly used in Nepal, with some use in Guinea (West Africa) and northern Ethiopia: in reality, I wish we could review the whole setting.  and have `amenity=healthcare` followed by `healthcare=*` to specify

Re: [Tagging] Adding values healthcare=dispensary and healthcare=community_care?

2020-05-22 Thread Manda Andriatsiferana
Hi Claire and all, @Claire I know this thread is about health posts and community care sites but I'm curious: which tag(s) are you willing to keep for your Centres de Santé? From your https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Congo-Kinshasa/Conventions/Sant%C3%A9 suggested is

Re: [Tagging] Adding values healthcare=dispensary and healthcare=community_care?

2020-05-22 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging
Now next step is to either get back to other mappers and explain why =dispensary would be likely confusing for others and just map using whatever tags seems best. Or go through a proposal process https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposal_process if you want. I have seen some edits already,

Re: [Tagging] Adding values healthcare=dispensary and healthcare=community_care?

2020-05-21 Thread Claire Halleux
Thank you for the detailed answer. Indeed, this amenity=health_post tag is similar to the "poste de santé" in the DRC. It is the exact match of one of the 5 low-range health facility types among the 14 types of health facilities currently documented in the country (

Re: [Tagging] Adding values healthcare=dispensary and healthcare=community_care?

2020-05-21 Thread Claire Halleux
Hi Mario, the three low-range facilities are called: "Puesto de Salud", "Subcentro > de Salud", and "Centro de Promoción de Salud". I've never seen one of > them, personally speaking, I'm just interpreting the information at > >

Re: [Tagging] Adding values healthcare=dispensary and healthcare=community_care?

2020-05-21 Thread Joseph Eisenberg
The tag amenity=health_post has been mainly used in Nepal, with some use in Guinea (West Africa) and northern Ethiopia: https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/UeI Those in Guinea are usually named "Poste de santé de " - so perhaps they are similar to the Poste de Santé in your area? E.g. nodes 4218024825

Re: [Tagging] Adding values healthcare=dispensary and healthcare=community_care?

2020-05-21 Thread Claire Halleux
Thanks again for the suggestions. healthcare=community_health_worker seems a good value choice, as it is defined on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Community_health_worker. community_health_service is more likely to refer to services provided to the community involving doctors and nurses, which

Re: [Tagging] Adding values healthcare=dispensary and healthcare=community_care?

2020-05-21 Thread Mario Frasca
Hello everybody. thank you Claire for alerting the Telegram group 'OSM Africa Tagging' about your message on this list! I forwarded your invitation to the groups América Central, LatAm, Panamá, and Colombia. yesterday we had a look at the typologies that exist from an official point of

Re: [Tagging] Adding values healthcare=dispensary and healthcare=community_care?

2020-05-19 Thread Jarek Piórkowski
On Tue, 19 May 2020 at 21:18, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > How about =nurse / nurses / nursing_station, & =community_health_service? Nursing station to my Canadian ears sounds like where you breastfeed your child. https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/nursing seems to agree. Just 2 cents

Re: [Tagging] Adding values healthcare=dispensary and healthcare=community_care?

2020-05-19 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
How about =nurse / nurses / nursing_station, & =community_health_service? Thanks Graeme ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Adding values healthcare=dispensary and healthcare=community_care?

2020-05-19 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging
May 20, 2020, 02:48 by claire.hall...@hotosm.org: > Therefore, if we keep the facility angle, "health_post" and > "community_care_site" values would make sense. Otherwise, based on the main > provider, we could use "nurse" and "community_relay" (if this literal > translation makes any sense

Re: [Tagging] Adding values healthcare=dispensary and healthcare=community_care?

2020-05-19 Thread Claire Halleux
Thanks a lot for the feedback received so far. Well noted regarding the wider "dispensary" meaning, let's try to agree on another word ;-) And it's helpful to see that these tags could be used on other continents too. Regarding the current values of the healthcare key, it seems to me that while

Re: [Tagging] Adding values healthcare=dispensary and healthcare=community_care?

2020-05-19 Thread Paul Allen
On Tue, 19 May 2020 at 23:59, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: > But I would not recommend using "dispensary" for the tag value, because as > mentioned above, in North American English this is used for a shop which > dispenses medical marijuana, and accordign to Oxford, in British English it > means "A

Re: [Tagging] Adding values healthcare=dispensary and healthcare=community_care?

2020-05-19 Thread Joseph Eisenberg
Claire, Thank you for working on this, it's a good idea! In Indonesia there are similar health posts, with or without nurses. 1) A "dispensaire" or "poste de santé" is similar to an Indonesian "pos kesehatan" in some remote villages, where there is a nurse but not a physician (medical doctor).

Re: [Tagging] Adding values healthcare=dispensary and healthcare=community_care?

2020-05-19 Thread Jack Armstrong
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Re: [Tagging] Adding values healthcare=dispensary and healthcare=community_care?

2020-05-19 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging
Thanks for posting here! Hopefully feedback that you receive will be useful. May 19, 2020, 17:14 by claire.hall...@hotosm.org: > What are your thoughts about adding the value "dispensary" in the wiki to the > healthcare key to map these places? > Note that in USA "dispensary" seems to primarily

[Tagging] Adding values healthcare=dispensary and healthcare=community_care?

2020-05-19 Thread Claire Halleux
Hello, This message follows previous discussions that took place in Africa Tagging Telegram group and on talk-cd list related to (missing) tags for mapping rural healthcare facilities. A dispensary ("dispensaire" or "poste de santé" per DRC local names) matches the following definition extracted