Feb 25, 2023, 20:57 by g...@lexort.com:
> Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging writes
>
>
>> what worse, even if tagged in say highway=service this gate may
>> be not large enough to fit a car
>>
>
> highway=service by definition is enough for cars so if there is a gate
> on a highway=service that
Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging writes:
> Feb 25, 2023, 19:58 by g...@lexort.com:
>
>> I am assuming -- but the wiki is unclear -- that
>>
>> access=private, tagged on barrier=gate
>>
>> means that all modes of travel have a right of access only with
>> permission
>>
> note that some may not
In general I agree but
Feb 25, 2023, 19:58 by g...@lexort.com:
> I am assuming -- but the wiki is unclear -- that
>
> access=private, tagged on barrier=gate
>
> means that all modes of travel have a right of access only with
> permission
>
note that some may not physically fit (even with
Niels Elgaard Larsen writes:
>>I don't see it that why. access=private, probably. access=destination
>>means you can use a way if you decide to go someplace that you need to
>>use the way to get to. But that's wrapped up with can you.
>
> If a way is access=destination, a router should only
Feb 24, 2023, 00:43 by g...@lexort.com:
> It's a little unclear to me what a "locked=no" gate is.
>
access=private locked=no would be a gate that anyone can open
but they are not allowed to without a permission from owner.
Personally I would consider mapping this as quite dubious.
>
On Thu, 23 Feb 2023 18:39:19 -0500
Greg Troxel wrote:
>Niels Elgaard Larsen writes:
>
>> We have to accept that the tagging is never complete. And when
>> surveying, it is often easier to tag "locked" than "access" (we can
>> se the lock or try to open the gate but there are often no signs).
>>
On 24/2/23 10:39, Greg Troxel wrote:
Niels Elgaard Larsen writes:
We have to accept that the tagging is never complete. And when
surveying, it is often easier to tag "locked" than "access" (we can se
the lock or try to open the gate but there are often no signs). So the
tagging might
For the physical ability to pass a locked gate I want to suggest a separate tag
for*locked=yes* gates.
Something like:*bypass=*foot/bike/horse/motor_vehicle/... (where each implies
the prior categories, because this is about physical width/height and not legal
distinction)
It could also be
On 23/2/23 11:29, Andrew Harvey wrote:
Actually thinking about this in the context of the scenario at
https://github.com/graphhopper/graphhopper/issues/2757#issuecomment-1435081431
I think we need a tagging solution to indicate that bicycle/foot may
bypass the gate rather than having to
Niels Elgaard Larsen writes:
> We have to accept that the tagging is never complete. And when
> surveying, it is often easier to tag "locked" than "access" (we can se
> the lock or try to open the gate but there are often no signs). So the
> tagging might reflect that we know that a gate is
ally you can NOT lock the "bypass" (if it exists) and so people cannot physically restrict access to the bypass, at least not with a lock.
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 23. Februar 2023 um 13:38 Uhr
Von: "Niels Elgaard Larsen"
An: tagging@openstreetmap.org
Betreff: Re: [Tagging] Combining &qu
Zeev Stadler:
I would like the help of the list to clarify the meaning of having a "locked=yes" tag
on a barrier node together with some allowed access tags.
The introduction to the "locked" tag wiki page
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:locked
Actually thinking about this in the context of the scenario at
https://github.com/graphhopper/graphhopper/issues/2757#issuecomment-1435081431
I think we need a tagging solution to indicate that bicycle/foot may bypass
the gate rather than having to travel through the gate. Because while in
this
>
>
>1. As far as non-emergency routing, the "locked" tag should be ignored.
>
> As Andy points out you may have legal access but the gate is still locked
preventing physical access. Therefore routers shouldn't just ignore the
fact that the gate is locked, they should either avoid the route or
Hi @Mateusz,
Thank you for clarifying the meaning of "=permit". I will have to think again
how to tag these ways. If I have used Taginfo correctly there are "only" 1503
ways with "description=redway", which I might have tagged like this!
Regards,Peter(PeterPan99)
On Wednesday, 22 February
Feb 21, 2023, 22:05 by tagging@openstreetmap.org:
> They can also be removed by maintenance workers operating with permission
> from the local Council (I have tagged the access rights of the ways with
> "motor_vehicle=permit"
>
=permit is for cases where permit is routinely granted to all
I my area (Milton Keynes, UK) there are numberous pairs of bollards, where one
is fixed, but the other can be removed after unlocking a padlock, to which I
understand the Fire Service have a universal key.
These bollards are used on shared Foot / Cycleways, where they join or cross
roads and
Feb 21, 2023, 15:24 by zeev.stad...@gmail.com:
1. As far as non-emergency routing, the "locked" tag should be ignored.
it is up to the person doing the routing to decide (and if I were him,
I would impose a penalty: getting out of the vehicle and opening
the barrier takes more time than
I think this tagging says:
>
>- There is a locked gate that blocks motor vehicles
>
>
>- There are no access restrictions for pedestrians and bikes
>
>
> I agree but I cannot imagine such barrier.
Any locked swing gate or chain or lockable bollard or parking spot lock
would qualify. To
On 21/02/2023 14:34, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging wrote:
Feb 21, 2023, 15:24 by zeev.stad...@gmail.com:
1. As far as non-emergency routing, the "locked" tag should be
ignored.
2. A "locked=no" tag indicates that a legal access restriction is
not enforced by a
Feb 21, 2023, 15:24 by zeev.stad...@gmail.com:
> I would like the help of the list to clarify the meaning of having a
> "locked=yes" tag on a barrier node together with some allowed access tags.
>
> The introduction to the "locked" tag wiki page >
>
I would like the help of the list to clarify the meaning of having a
"locked=yes" tag on a barrier node together with some allowed access tags.
The introduction to the "locked" tag wiki page
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:locked says:
access
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