Re: [Tagging] Dancing school

2010-08-18 Thread Vincent Pottier
On 18/08/2010 01:17, John Smith wrote: On 18 August 2010 08:25, Andreas Labresl...@lab.at wrote: I can't follow your argument here. A dancing school (or is ist called dance school? in which part of the English world?) is an amenity, is it not? The term amenity, if used in the

Re: [Tagging] Dancing school

2010-08-18 Thread André Riedel
2010/8/18 Vincent Pottier vpott...@gmail.com: On 18/08/2010 01:17, John Smith wrote: On 18 August 2010 08:25, Andreas Labresl...@lab.at  wrote: I can't follow your argument here. A dancing school (or is ist called dance school? in which part of the English world?) is an amenity, is it not?

Re: [Tagging] Dancing school

2010-08-17 Thread John Smith
On 18 August 2010 01:06, Surly_ru p...@isnet.ru wrote: I agree!! The term training here is much more suitable than school. My recommendation is amenity=training + training=dance. -1 The whole point of all the was to avoid adding any more amenity=* tags unnecessarily, it's already an overly

Re: [Tagging] Dancing school

2010-08-17 Thread Vladimir Pokvalitov
My recommendation is amenity=training + training=dance. -1 The whole point of all the was to avoid adding any more amenity=* tags unnecessarily OK! Let's discard amenity. Only training=dance is good too. My suggestion is not about amenity. It is about changing school to training.

Re: [Tagging] Dancing school

2010-08-17 Thread Andreas Labres
On 17.08.10 17:11, John Smith wrote: The whole point of all the was to avoid adding any more amenity=* tags unnecessarily, it's already an overly abused dumping ground and makes it difficult for doing generic icons for POIs... I can't follow your argument here. A dancing school (or is ist

Re: [Tagging] Dancing school

2010-08-17 Thread John Smith
On 18 August 2010 01:28, Surly_ru p...@isnet.ru wrote: Wouldn't that be a little counter initiative since they are called dance schools, driving school, etc ? These short-term training courses for adults are very different from educational schools for children, despite of their name. So let's

Re: [Tagging] Dancing school

2010-08-16 Thread Andreas Labres
Proposal: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Dancing_school /al ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Dancing school

2010-08-16 Thread John Smith
On 17 August 2010 05:15, Andreas Labres l...@lab.at wrote: Proposal: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Dancing_school I'm wondering if a sub-tag would be more useful, eg amenity=school school=dance That way you could group other similar schools, like martial arts, using

Re: [Tagging] Dancing school

2010-08-16 Thread John Smith
On 17 August 2010 07:41, Richard Welty rwe...@averillpark.net wrote: amenity=school school=middle I know I brought up middle schools, but are they deemed a type of secondary school? The reason I ask, it might be more useful to tag which grades, for example in Australia there are central

Re: [Tagging] Dancing school

2010-08-16 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2010/8/16 John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com: school=truck_driving school=driving driving:type=[car|truck|bike] what about school=dolphins for a school of dolphins? Or hospital=tree nursery? IMHO we shouldn't create our categories/keys only based on language which might sometimes be

Re: [Tagging] Dancing school

2010-08-16 Thread John Smith
On 17 August 2010 07:57, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: -1, IMHO no. A dancing school, boxing school, ski school, etc. are IMHO not in the same category than general-education schools. They might be classified in one category, but that is IMHO not school. That's what the sub

Re: [Tagging] Dancing school

2010-08-16 Thread John Smith
On 17 August 2010 08:03, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: what about school=dolphins for a school of dolphins? Or hospital=tree nursery? IMHO we shouldn't create our categories/keys only based on language which might sometimes be ambiguous or misleading. So far you seem to be

Re: [Tagging] Dancing school

2010-08-16 Thread Richard Welty
On 8/16/10 6:06 PM, John Smith wrote: On 17 August 2010 08:03, M∡rtin Koppenhoeferdieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: what about school=dolphins for a school of dolphins? Or hospital=tree nursery? IMHO we shouldn't create our categories/keys only based on language which might sometimes be ambiguous

Re: [Tagging] Dancing school

2010-08-16 Thread Ulf Lamping
Am 17.08.2010 00:31, schrieb John Smith: On 17 August 2010 08:24, Ulf Lampingulf.lamp...@googlemail.com wrote: What is the benefit to put this all under amenity=school - and then have a tag no renderer actually can use, because it is far too generic? The benefit is an existing tag that isn't

Re: [Tagging] Dancing school

2010-08-16 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2010/8/17 John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com: On 17 August 2010 08:24, Ulf Lamping ulf.lamp...@googlemail.com wrote: What is the benefit to put this all under amenity=school - and then have a tag no renderer actually can use, because it is far too generic? The benefit is an existing tag

Re: [Tagging] Dancing school

2010-08-16 Thread John Smith
On 17 August 2010 08:53, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: it doesn't change the good point Ulf made: a potential data consumer would have to know all school types for a pleasant results. Currently That's actually a reason to sub-tag, so they can show a generic icon instead of

Re: [Tagging] Dancing school

2010-08-16 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2010/8/17 John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com: On 17 August 2010 08:53, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: it doesn't change the good point Ulf made: a potential data consumer would have to know all school types for a pleasant results. Currently That's actually a reason to

Re: [Tagging] Dancing school

2010-08-16 Thread Richard Welty
On 8/16/10 7:23 PM, John Smith wrote: On 17 August 2010 09:20, M∡rtin Koppenhoeferdieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: The point was (maybe my message was too long to get this clear) that the same generic icon for schools which do general education in the morning and maybe afternoon to kids AND the

Re: [Tagging] Dancing school

2010-08-16 Thread John Smith
On 17 August 2010 09:29, Richard Welty rwe...@averillpark.net wrote: amenity=special_school or something on that order, and then subtag with school= i don't object to splitting that way, but there's no good reason to further pollute amenity when we can subtag with school= Do we even need an

Re: [Tagging] Dancing school

2010-08-16 Thread Andreas Labres
On 17.08.10 01:29, Richard Welty wrote: amenity=special_school or something on that order, and then subtag with school= I can't see any benefit subsuming those ...schools that are no schools under one tag. They all need special icons, there is no generic icon for these. One more thing, a

Re: [Tagging] Dancing school

2010-08-16 Thread Richard Welty
On 8/16/10 8:39 PM, Andreas Labres wrote: On 17.08.10 01:29, Richard Welty wrote: amenity=special_school or something on that order, and then subtag with school= I can't see any benefit subsuming those ...schools that are no schools under one tag. They all need special icons, there is no

Re: [Tagging] Dancing school

2010-08-16 Thread Andreas Labres
On 17.08.10 02:46, Richard Welty wrote: there are dancing schools and there are dancing schools Well, maybe we need a subtag... ;) /al ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging