Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Bench: replace seats by capacity

2022-10-10 Thread Marc_marc
Le 10.10.22 à 14:07, Matija Nalis a écrit : (i.e. are we talking about how many thinly 3 years olds_or_ have super-obese adults can fit there?) As with all slightly subjective values, at best an average use is given. example: a path (too narrow for for a car of average width) is sometimes

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Bench: replace seats by capacity

2022-10-10 Thread martianfreeloader
Hi Mitja, I've drafted two opposing proposals on whether capacity/seats should be tagged on benches without a functional separation into seats or not. The purpose is to find out if there is a community consensus on this question. "Sure, it's fine to tag capacity, even if there is now

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Bench: replace seats by capacity

2022-10-10 Thread Matija Nalis
On Wed, 5 Oct 2022 14:20:09 +0200 (CEST), Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging wrote: > This revert makes sense to me. > > BTW, one may count both seats and capacity on benches, why not One might even decide to tag https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:length instead (or in addition) to `seats`,

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Bench: replace seats by capacity

2022-10-05 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging
This revert makes sense to me. BTW, one may count both seats and capacity on benches, why not Oct 2, 2022, 22:15 by dafadl...@gmail.com: > Until very recently, the wiki said that seats=* means seats, not capacity: > >

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Bench: replace seats by capacity

2022-10-02 Thread Peter Elderson
I agree that the old text for seats=* is much better. I would add capacity=* with the new text: Number of people who can comfortably sit on the bench at one time. I think it's not a problem that mappers may estimate differently, most will agree most of the time, and if the previous mapper e.g.

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Bench: replace seats by capacity

2022-10-02 Thread Raphael
Until very recently, the wiki said that seats=* means seats, not capacity: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Tag:amenity%3Dbench=2357111=2347958 In my opinion, this should be reverted. Besides, i'm not very enthusiastic about using capacity=* because this is quite subjective -

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Bench: replace seats by capacity

2022-09-30 Thread Samson Ngumenawe via Tagging
-- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2022 11:58:35 +0000 > From: martianfreeloader > To: tagging@openstreetmap.org > Subject: Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Bench: replace seats > by capaci

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Bench: replace seats by capacity

2022-09-30 Thread Marc_marc
Hello, Le 29.09.22 à 18:26, martianfreeloader a écrit : I am considering two groups of mutually exclusive proposals to settle this issue propose, withdraw, re-propose in 24 hours, that's a bit fast. give time for ideas to mature. I've done some research on how the tag is used, (I'm leaving

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Bench: replace seats by capacity

2022-09-30 Thread Marc_marc
Hello, Le 29.09.22 à 19:11, Anne-Karoline Distel a écrit : I don't have a number of 3-4 friends with me when I'm mapping to test the bench really ? sitting in the middle of the bench, I have an idea if the bench is 2-3-4 seats, in the same way that a friend of yours could see for himself if

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Bench: replace seats by capacity

2022-09-29 Thread stevea
This person's opinion: I very much like capacity with amenity=bench, especially when it is "significantly greater than two or three," though I also see great merit in saying capacity=1 to emphasize "single-seat only" in some cases where that might be or is unusual, or even usual! Y'know, this

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Bench: replace seats by capacity

2022-09-29 Thread Peter Elderson
I have stopped tagging seats, because most benches do not have seats. Capacity is ok with me, I will start using that, but still I don't think I will tag that very often, unless it's a huge bench for 20 (I have seen one!) or a very small one for 1 person. I don't mind if others tag seats or

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Bench: replace seats by capacity

2022-09-29 Thread Anne-Karoline Distel
Most times, I don't map the number of seats, because I don't have a number of 3-4 friends with me when I'm mapping to test the bench, so I can't tell how many people can sit on it. They installed a few 1-seater "benches" in my locality during lockdown, I added it then. But I agree that it might

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Bench: replace seats by capacity

2022-09-29 Thread martianfreeloader
I personally find it more consistent to reduce the number of synonymous keys across all objects. But yes, I am considering two groups of mutually exclusive proposals to settle this issue. Something along these lines: - ISSUE 1 Should the capacity of a bench be tagged on all benches or

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Bench: replace seats by capacity

2022-09-29 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 29 Sep 2022, at 14:10, martianfreeloader > wrote: > > Facing heavy objections and no support, I have come to the conclusion that my > proposal is not considered useful by the community. > > I thus decided to retract it. as you are interested in consistency, have

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Bench: replace seats by capacity

2022-09-29 Thread martianfreeloader
Facing heavy objections and no support, I have come to the conclusion that my proposal is not considered useful by the community. I thus decided to retract it. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org

[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Bench: replace seats by capacity

2022-09-29 Thread martianfreeloader
I propose to stop using seats=* on benches. Instead, capacity=* should be used. For details, see the proposal: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Bench:_replace_seats_by_capacity Please discuss this proposal on its Wiki Talk page.

[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Bench: replace seats by capacity

2022-09-28 Thread martianfreeloader
Sorry for double-posting. It has been brought to my attention that I had accidentally written my original mail within an existing thread. I hope, this one fixes it. Original mail: For consistency's sake, I propose to stop using seats=* on benches. Instead, capacity=*

[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Bench: replace seats by capacity

2022-09-28 Thread martianfreeloader
For consistency's sake, I propose to stop using seats=* on benches. Instead, capacity=* should be used. For details, see the proposal: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Bench:_replace_seats_by_capacity Please discuss this proposal on its Wiki Talk page.