2013/6/27 fly
>
>
> In fact in Germany with a normal "car" licence before the year 200? it
> is 7.5t + 4.5t = 12t.
>
>
>
actually applying some particular other exceptions it is almost 18t, 7.5t +
10t (special kind of trailer with 2 axes that count as "one double" because
the wheels are closer t
Am 26.06.2013 18:56, schrieb Philip Barnes:
> On Tue, 2013-06-25 at 21:02 +0200, fly wrote:
>> On 25.06.2013 20:43, martinq wrote:
> There is no (common) restriction that limits the actual weight of
> truck+trailer, thus it makes no sense to define maxweight as limit for
> the complete
>the similarity with the single truck-sign
Even the maxlength traffic sign is more similar with the "single truck" sign.
As to tagging the este vehicle+trailer weight limits, I haven't tagged any such
vehicle combination limits before. Intuitively, though, I'd go with
maxweight=50 (the limit st
On Tue, 2013-06-25 at 21:02 +0200, fly wrote:
> On 25.06.2013 20:43, martinq wrote:
> >>> There is no (common) restriction that limits the actual weight of
> >>> truck+trailer, thus it makes no sense to define maxweight as limit for
> >>> the complete train.
> >> ...
> >> this one is for gross weig
On 26/giu/2013, at 15:36, Kytömaa Lauri wrote:
> >can you confirm that this is
> > indeed maxweight (i.e.
> > actual weight
>
> Yes, the sign means actual weight.
so despite the similarity with the single truck-sign and Finland having signed
the vienna convention on traffic signs, it is
>can you confirm that this is
> indeed maxweight (i.e.
> actual weight
Yes, the sign means actual weight.
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On 26/giu/2013, at 11:46, Kytömaa Lauri wrote:
> Seems strange to put it that way (everything but not X), when they mean Y.
they mean what they write: everything but not X. Y is not only vehicles
transporting goods, but also machinery, tools, etc.
Cheers,
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On 25/giu/2013, at 22:48, Kytömaa Lauri wrote:
> Just today I drove past a sign that means "maxweight for combinations" (1,
> with another sign below it, which corresponds to Key:maxbogieload. Different
> restrictions exist together on some roads, tuet need
>
> 1)
> http://commons.m.wikim
>sign does not exclude vehicles
> transporting people
Indeed, yes, I missed the last bit: "ausgenommen Personenkraftwagen und
Kraftomnibuse"
Seems strange to put it that way (everything but not X), when they mean Y.
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Am 25.06.2013 um 23:36 schrieb Kytömaa Lauri :
> Therefore, the prohibiting sign with the "hgv symbol" only bans vehicles
> registered as vans and hgv's, i.e. not for example buses. Unlike in for
> example Germany, where that sign seems to refer to (gross) weight only.
No, in Germany that si
>I take it the gross weight
>item on the driver's license
Just to make sure, not all countries' driving licenses directly refer to
weight; mine only states the allowed vehicle classes, and I can check the
vehicle's papers to see of it's a B or a C. Effectively the difference is still
max gross
On 25.06.2013 22:17, John F. Eldredge wrote:
> I take it the gross weight item on the driver's license is to restrict what
> type of vehicle you are licensed to
> operate?
Exacly
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Different weight restrictions exist together on some roads, they need to be
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> maxweight:type=gross_vehicle, gross_train, laden, empty, etc.
> definitions + _weight can be used
>as properties in conditional
> restriction, eg. maxspeed=80 @
>(empty_weight>5.5).
>Drawback is that only one
> maxweight-restriction per way
> is possible.
Just today I drove past a sign that
I take it the gross weight item on the driver's license is to restrict what
type of vehicle you are licensed to
operate?
fly wrote:
> On 25.06.2013 20:43, martinq wrote:
> >>> There is no (common) restriction that limits the actual weight of
> >>> truck+trailer, thus it makes no sense to defin
2013/6/25 martinq
> There is no (common) restriction that limits the actual weight of
>>> truck+trailer, thus it makes no sense to define maxweight as limit for
>>> the complete train.
>>>
>> ...
>>
>> this one is for gross weight of vehicles _including_ trailers:
>> http://commons.m.wikimedia.**
On 25.06.2013 20:43, martinq wrote:
>>> There is no (common) restriction that limits the actual weight of
>>> truck+trailer, thus it makes no sense to define maxweight as limit for
>>> the complete train.
>> ...
>> this one is for gross weight of vehicles _including_ trailers:
>> http://commons.m.w
There is no (common) restriction that limits the actual weight of
truck+trailer, thus it makes no sense to define maxweight as limit for
the complete train.
...
this one is for gross weight of vehicles _including_ trailers:
http://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Zeichen_253.svg
Yes, see secon
On 25/giu/2013, at 00:17, martinq wrote:
> There is no (common) restriction that limits the actual weight of
> truck+trailer, thus it makes no sense to define maxweight as limit for the
> complete train.
>
> Let me explain:
>
> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Zeichen_262.svg
>
> l
With this it would be:
- max_weight: the maximum weight of the complete vehicle (including
truck and trailer, in the German traffic rules (Straßenverkehrsordnung,
StVO) that's a "Zug"; if I interpret my dictionary right, in English
it's a road train.
-1
There is no (common) restriction that lim
>there are weight restrictions
> sometimes given
>as maximum-per-axis-weight, indicated by traffic sign 263
> (see http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Zeichen_263.svg ),
> which is
>similar, but not the same.
There's
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:maxaxleload
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On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 9:22 AM, Peter Wendorff
wrote:
>
> With this it would be:
> - max_weight: the maximum weight of the complete vehicle (including
> truck and trailer, in the German traffic rules (Straßenverkehrsordnung,
> StVO) that's a "Zug"; if I interpret my dictionary right, in English
>
Am 23.06.2013 22:10, schrieb martinq:
> Note: I know that in US there are weight limits depending on the number
> of axles, but this could be tagged (later or already?) by conditional
> tagging like maxgross_weight = X @ axles>3; Y @ axles>4...
In Germany it's similar: there are weight restrictions
maxgross_weight: All vehicles have a registered upper limit on
their allowable mass (when fully loaded). This is often known
as the "Gross Weight", and it is found in the vehicle
documentation.
unfortunately it is more complicated because the amount of axis and
eventually the weight of trailers
On 21/giu/2013, at 01:05, Rob Nickerson wrote:
> maxgross_weight: All vehicles have a registered upper limit on their
> allowable mass (when fully loaded). This is often known as the "Gross
> Weight", and it is found in the vehicle documentation.
unfortunately it is more complicated becau
Hi,
I agree that the meaning is correct (legally), but I think we need to try
and simplify the jargon in the one line summary section. How about:
maxgross_weight: All vehicles have a registered upper limit on their
allowable mass (when fully loaded). This is often known as the "Gross
Weight", and
Restrictions on road access in many countries of the world make use of
two different types of weight:
1) Actual weight of vehicle including empty vehicle + driver +
passengers + load [the weight on a weighbridge]
2) Maximum permissible weight for a vehicle, typically used for
registration an
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