Re: [Tagging] Mapping bicycle-only turn lanes

2020-12-13 Thread Paul Johnson
On Sat, Dec 12, 2020 at 5:04 PM Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > > sent from a phone > > > On 12. Dec 2020, at 23:43, Paul Johnson wrote: > > > > So what? How are we going to improve if we're not willing to correct > choices that are objectively bad in retrospect? Especially when fixing the >

Re: [Tagging] Mapping bicycle-only turn lanes

2020-12-13 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging
Dec 12, 2020, 14:25 by ba...@ursamundi.org: > > > On Sat, Dec 12, 2020 at 5:25 AM Jan Michel <> j...@mueschelsoft.de> > wrote: > >> Hi, >> where do you see a problem here? The current situation might not be >> perfect, but it is usable as it is. The only thing to keep in mind is >> that

Re: [Tagging] Mapping bicycle-only turn lanes

2020-12-12 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 12. Dec 2020, at 23:43, Paul Johnson wrote: > > So what? How are we going to improve if we're not willing to correct choices > that are objectively bad in retrospect? Especially when fixing the problem > makes lane tagging more consistent for all lane types and

Re: [Tagging] Mapping bicycle-only turn lanes

2020-12-12 Thread Paul Johnson
On Sat, Dec 12, 2020 at 4:37 PM Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging < tagging@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > > > > Dec 12, 2020, 18:27 by ba...@ursamundi.org: > > > > On Sat, Dec 12, 2020 at 11:22 AM Jan Michel wrote: > > On 12.12.20 17:47, Paul Johnson wrote: > > On Sat, Dec 12, 2020 at 10:46 AM Jan

Re: [Tagging] Mapping bicycle-only turn lanes

2020-12-12 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging
Dec 12, 2020, 18:27 by ba...@ursamundi.org: > > > On Sat, Dec 12, 2020 at 11:22 AM Jan Michel <> j...@mueschelsoft.de> > wrote: > >> On 12.12.20 17:47, Paul Johnson wrote: >> > On Sat, Dec 12, 2020 at 10:46 AM Jan Michel >> > <>> j...@mueschelsoft.de>> >> > > j...@mueschelsoft.de>> >>

Re: [Tagging] Mapping bicycle-only turn lanes

2020-12-12 Thread Paul Johnson
On Sat, Dec 12, 2020 at 11:22 AM Jan Michel wrote: > On 12.12.20 17:47, Paul Johnson wrote: > > On Sat, Dec 12, 2020 at 10:46 AM Jan Michel > > > > wrote: > > > > On 12.12.20 17:25, Paul Johnson wrote: > > > > > Sure, if you manually torque tag it to match

Re: [Tagging] Mapping bicycle-only turn lanes

2020-12-12 Thread Jan Michel
On 12.12.20 17:47, Paul Johnson wrote: On Sat, Dec 12, 2020 at 10:46 AM Jan Michel > wrote: On 12.12.20 17:25, Paul Johnson wrote: > Sure, if you manually torque tag it to match the incorrect > documentation.  As soon as you open the lane editor, it

Re: [Tagging] Mapping bicycle-only turn lanes

2020-12-12 Thread Paul Johnson
On Sat, Dec 12, 2020 at 10:46 AM Jan Michel wrote: > On 12.12.20 17:25, Paul Johnson wrote: > > > Sure, if you manually torque tag it to match the incorrect > > documentation. As soon as you open the lane editor, it rightly corrects > > it to lanes=5, since you have 2 lanes in one way and 3 in

Re: [Tagging] Mapping bicycle-only turn lanes

2020-12-12 Thread Jan Michel
On 12.12.20 17:25, Paul Johnson wrote: Sure, if you manually torque tag it to match the incorrect documentation.  As soon as you open the lane editor, it rightly corrects it to lanes=5, since you have 2 lanes in one way and 3 in the other. The "incorrect documentation" was voted on and it

Re: [Tagging] Mapping bicycle-only turn lanes

2020-12-12 Thread Paul Johnson
On Sat, Dec 12, 2020 at 8:34 AM Jan Michel wrote: > On 12.12.20 14:25, Paul Johnson wrote: > > On Sat, Dec 12, 2020 at 5:25 AM Jan Michel > > > > wrote: > > > > Hi, > > where do you see a problem here? The current situation might not be > > perfect, but

Re: [Tagging] Mapping bicycle-only turn lanes

2020-12-12 Thread Jan Michel
On 12.12.20 14:25, Paul Johnson wrote: On Sat, Dec 12, 2020 at 5:25 AM Jan Michel > wrote: Hi, where do you see a problem here? The current situation might not be perfect, but it is usable as it is. The only thing to keep in mind is that the number

Re: [Tagging] Mapping bicycle-only turn lanes

2020-12-12 Thread Paul Johnson
On Sat, Dec 12, 2020 at 5:25 AM Jan Michel wrote: > Hi, > where do you see a problem here? The current situation might not be > perfect, but it is usable as it is. The only thing to keep in mind is > that the number of "lanes" does not need to match the number of entries > in the "XY:lanes"

Re: [Tagging] Mapping bicycle-only turn lanes

2020-12-12 Thread Jan Michel
Hi, where do you see a problem here? The current situation might not be perfect, but it is usable as it is. The only thing to keep in mind is that the number of "lanes" does not need to match the number of entries in the "XY:lanes" tags. On the other hand, the "lanes" tag has some real

Re: [Tagging] Mapping bicycle-only turn lanes

2020-12-12 Thread Jan Michel via Tagging
On 08.12.20 23:08, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging wrote: highway, name, lit=yes, surface=asphalt etc oneway=yes oneway:biycle=no lanes=1 (as bicycle lanes are not counted) vehicle:lanes:forward=no|yes bicycle:lanes:forward=designated|yes turn:bicycle:lanes:forward=left| turn:lanes:forward=|

Re: [Tagging] Mapping bicycle-only turn lanes

2020-12-12 Thread Minh Nguyen
Vào lúc 14:08 2020-12-08, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging đã viết: Mapper in Poland run into a tricky case and asked for help. I am forwarding this a bit weird case. Photo is at https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Krak%C3%B3w_Brodzi%C5%84skiego_(5).jpg

Re: [Tagging] Mapping bicycle-only turn lanes

2020-12-08 Thread Paul Johnson
On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 4:09 PM Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging < tagging@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > Mapper in Poland run into a tricky case and asked for help. > > I am forwarding this a bit weird case. > > Photo is at > >

[Tagging] Mapping bicycle-only turn lanes

2020-12-08 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging
Mapper in Poland run into a tricky case and asked for help. I am forwarding this a bit weird case. Photo is at https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Krak%C3%B3w_Brodzi%C5%84skiego_(5).jpg and depicts - contraflow bicycle lane - bicycle-only left turn lane (signed left turn) - general