Re: [Tagging] New proposal: Obligatory tagging of oneway on motorway_link

2015-10-04 Thread Joachim
2015-09-13 23:38 GMT+02:00 Paul Norman : > On 9/10/2015 5:20 AM, Joachim wrote: >> >> Define on the wiki page of highway=motorway_link that oneway=* must >> also be tagged for every motorway_link. If not tagged, the oneway=* >> status of this way is undefined. > > Explicitly

Re: [Tagging] New proposal: Obligatory tagging of oneway on motorway_link

2015-09-16 Thread Joachim
2015-09-14 2:40 GMT+02:00 Richard Welty : > quite. there are sections of motorway_link highways along the taconic > parkway in NY which are two way and so lack oneway tags. now it's not that > hard > to go through and fix it, but i'm reasonably sure this is not the only

Re: [Tagging] New proposal: Obligatory tagging of oneway on motorway_link

2015-09-14 Thread Greg Troxel
Richard Welty writes: > On 9/13/15 5:38 PM, Paul Norman wrote: >> On 9/10/2015 5:20 AM, Joachim wrote: >>> Tools to help enforcing the obligatory usage: >>> [...] >>> - No routing over undefined oneways >> The chances of anyone implementing this in their routing engine

Re: [Tagging] New proposal: Obligatory tagging of oneway on motorway_link

2015-09-13 Thread Richard Welty
On 9/13/15 5:38 PM, Paul Norman wrote: > On 9/10/2015 5:20 AM, Joachim wrote: > >> Tools to help enforcing the obligatory usage: >> [...] >> - No routing over undefined oneways > The chances of anyone implementing this in their routing engine are > approximately zero. quite. there are sections of

Re: [Tagging] New proposal: Obligatory tagging of oneway on motorway_link

2015-09-13 Thread Paul Norman
On 9/10/2015 5:20 AM, Joachim wrote: Define on the wiki page of highway=motorway_link that oneway=* must also be tagged for every motorway_link. If not tagged, the oneway=* status of this way is undefined. Explicitly tagging oneway on links is preferable for obvious reasons, but you need to

Re: [Tagging] New proposal: Obligatory tagging of oneway on motorway_link

2015-09-12 Thread Joachim
> Though I agree in principle with the idea of making tagging more > explicit, how big of a practical concern is this? i.e. how many times in > the real world is motorway_link a two-way road? This is quite common in some parts parts of Europe. Here an Overpass Turbo link which covers

Re: [Tagging] New proposal: Obligatory tagging of oneway on motorway_link

2015-09-12 Thread Joachim
Considering that most replies where not in favour of dropping routing over "undefined oneway" I changed the sentence about routers: "- For routing purposes no recommendation for ways with undefined oneway is made. A provider should decide on it's own considering the documentation history and

Re: [Tagging] New proposal: Obligatory tagging of oneway on motorway_link

2015-09-11 Thread Paul Johnson
On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 7:41 AM, moltonel wrote: > > If not tagged, the oneway=* > >status of this way is undefined. > > You wont gain anything by de-defining the "oneway=no" default value. > Consumers (routers, renderers, whatever) will not be swayed by a wiki page. > They

Re: [Tagging] New proposal: Obligatory tagging of oneway on motorway_link

2015-09-11 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
On Fri, 11 Sep 2015 12:41:36 + moltonel wrote: > Consumers (routers, renderers, whatever) will not be swayed by a wiki > page. They might look at stats and decide themselves what the absence > of a oneway tag means, but a wiki proposal is never going to > influence that

Re: [Tagging] New proposal: Obligatory tagging of oneway on motorway_link

2015-09-11 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
On Thu, 10 Sep 2015 14:20:43 +0200 Joachim wrote: > I drafted up a proposal about oneway=* for highway=motorway_link. > Please comment. > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Motorway_link_obligatory_oneway

Re: [Tagging] New proposal: Obligatory tagging of oneway on motorway_link

2015-09-11 Thread Shawn K. Quinn
On Thu, 2015-09-10 at 14:20 +0200, Joachim wrote: > I drafted up a proposal about oneway=* for highway=motorway_link. > Please comment. > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Motorway_link_obligatory_oneway > > Proposal: > Define on the wiki page of highway=motorway_link that

Re: [Tagging] New proposal: Obligatory tagging of oneway on motorway_link

2015-09-11 Thread Kieron Thwaites
> Though I agree in principle with the idea of making tagging more > explicit, how big of a practical concern is this? i.e. how many times in > the real world is motorway_link a two-way road? While I agree such a case is rare, it is possible. See: http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/68433570 --

Re: [Tagging] New proposal: Obligatory tagging of oneway on motorway_link

2015-09-11 Thread moltonel
On 10 September 2015 13:20:43 GMT+01:00, Joachim wrote: >Proposal: >Define on the wiki page of highway=motorway_link that oneway=* must >also be tagged for every motorway_link. Sounds fair. > If not tagged, the oneway=* >status of this way is undefined. You wont gain

Re: [Tagging] New proposal: Obligatory tagging of oneway on motorway_link

2015-09-11 Thread Paul Johnson
On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 7:07 AM, Kieron Thwaites wrote: > > Though I agree in principle with the idea of making tagging more > > explicit, how big of a practical concern is this? i.e. how many times in > > the real world is motorway_link a two-way road? > > While I

Re: [Tagging] New proposal: Obligatory tagging of oneway on motorway_link

2015-09-11 Thread Paul Johnson
On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 6:56 AM, Shawn K. Quinn wrote: > On Thu, 2015-09-10 at 14:20 +0200, Joachim wrote: > > I drafted up a proposal about oneway=* for highway=motorway_link. > > Please comment. > > >

Re: [Tagging] New proposal: Obligatory tagging of oneway on motorway_link

2015-09-11 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
On Fri, 11 Sep 2015 08:40:21 -0500 Paul Johnson wrote: > On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 7:41 AM, moltonel wrote: > > > > If not tagged, the oneway=* > > >status of this way is undefined. > > > > You wont gain anything by de-defining the "oneway=no" default

Re: [Tagging] New proposal: Obligatory tagging of oneway on motorway_link

2015-09-11 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > Documentation on wiki is one of main sources during development of > map style. You mean of the openstreetmap-carto style, which is just one of many. Richard -- View this message in context:

Re: [Tagging] New proposal: Obligatory tagging of oneway on motorway_link

2015-09-11 Thread moltonel 3x Combo
On 11/09/2015, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > On Fri, 11 Sep 2015 12:41:36 + > moltonel wrote: > >> Consumers (routers, renderers, whatever) will not be swayed by a wiki >> page. They might look at stats and decide themselves what the absence >> of a

[Tagging] New proposal: Obligatory tagging of oneway on motorway_link

2015-09-10 Thread Joachim
I drafted up a proposal about oneway=* for highway=motorway_link. Please comment. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Motorway_link_obligatory_oneway Proposal: Define on the wiki page of highway=motorway_link that oneway=* must also be tagged for every motorway_link. If not