Hi,
I'm still puzzled about the right value to introduce (or to use as it
exists)...
Additionnaly to power=tower/pole, 2 main solutions sound good to me :
1 - Introduce brand new values man_made=power_tower/power_pole and start
using them without any tower:type=* subcategories.
+ New tags, not
What to do regarding what ?
To choose between power_tower or power_pole ?
For a huge power tower it should be man_made=power_tower. IEC says it's not
a voltage matter.
*François Lacombe*
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2013/8/19 Bryce Nesbitt
Hi,
Power transmission refinement proposal have been updated with new values
for man_made=*.
No deprecation for power=* values.
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Power_transmission_refinement
More info on Talk.
I agree with the reasoning behind man_made=pole, but the semantic
infrastructure behind osm is not yet strong enough. I think a second layer
should be there, a semantic model which says what certain key-values
actually mean, and which could be easily changed. The renderers could then
be bound to
Il giorno 17/ago/2013, alle ore 11:03, Janko Mihelić jan...@gmail.com ha
scritto:
I think a second layer should be there, a semantic model which says what
certain key-values actually mean, and which could be easily changed.
this would allow for a whole new interpretation of the term map
I totally agree with Janko.
A meta-tagging model will allow more agility when tag a replaced or
deprecated.
*François Lacombe*
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2013/8/17 Janko Mihelić jan...@gmail.com
I agree with the reasoning behind
I'd prefer to indicate a transformer mounted on a pole with either:
power=transformer
layer=1
or
power=pole
transformer=yes
with a preference for the former.
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On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 12:14 PM, John Sturdy jcg.stu...@gmail.com wrote:
I'd prefer to indicate a transformer mounted on a pole with either:
power=transformer
layer=1
:
with a preference for the former.
You didn't catch that the node is primarily tagged with power=pole
(or tower). Then you
On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 12:40 PM, Pieren pier...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 12:14 PM, John Sturdy jcg.stu...@gmail.com wrote:
I'd prefer to indicate a transformer mounted on a pole with either:
power=transformer
layer=1
You didn't catch that the node is primarily tagged with
2013/8/16 Pieren pier...@gmail.com
On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 12:14 PM, John Sturdy jcg.stu...@gmail.com
wrote:
I'd prefer to indicate a transformer mounted on a pole with either:
power=transformer
layer=1
:
with a preference for the former.
You didn't catch that the node is primarily
On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 2:45 PM, John Sturdy jcg.stu...@gmail.com wrote:
No, neither of those; I meant to use just exactly those two tags, on
just one node, and have the presence of the pole be implied by the
layer=1 indicating that the transformer is not on the ground, rather
than being
If you have the layer=1 on the node, renderers may decide that the entire node,
including the pole, are on layer 1.
John Sturdy jcg.stu...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 12:40 PM, Pieren pier...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 12:14 PM, John Sturdy jcg.stu...@gmail.com
On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 3:53 PM, John F. Eldredge j...@jfeldredge.com wrote:
If you have the layer=1 on the node, renderers may decide that the entire
node, including the pole, are on layer 1.
Good point! Agreed.
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Hi guys, many thanks for your answers.
@Martin :
It would be ok since man_made=tower is dedicated to more particular
structures than common power towers.
What about man_made=power_tower ?
We would move all tag from tower:* namespace to power_tower:* too (for
design, type, colors...)
@Pieren
I
On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 10:59 AM, François Lacombe
francois.laco...@telecom-bretagne.eu wrote:
Should I take care of power=transformer, transformer=yes,
transformer:power:tower=yes, power:tower:transformer=yes,
transformer=distribution ?
On the wiki, you should document that the transformer
Il giorno 14/ago/2013, alle ore 01:40, Greg Troxel g...@ir.bbn.com ha scritto:
Chris Hill o...@raggedred.net writes:
I would prefer that you didn't pretend we will deprecate a tag so
widely used just so a small proportion of them can have another power
tag on it when we can easily just
All we are discussing about here is hypothetical.
I didn't update the power transmission proposal yet and I'm not sure I'll
do.
Let's say it's just a big wish.
I think it's dangerous to let the well established stuff prevailing.
We had this problem on power=line, now on power=pole/tower (not to
Am 14.08.2013 11:58, schrieb François Lacombe:
All we are discussing about here is hypothetical.
I didn't update the power transmission proposal yet and I'm not sure
I'll do.
Let's say it's just a big wish.
I think it's dangerous to let the well established stuff prevailing.
We had this
Hi,
A long discussion with multiple ideas given is currently taking place about
power poles and hosted features on the talk feed of the Substation
refinement proposal.
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Proposed_features/Substation_refinement#Transformer_type
As explained in
Hey Francois
+10 for deprecating power=tower/pole and tag them what they are: a tower
or a pole.
On 13.08.2013 16:31, François Lacombe wrote:
A long discussion with multiple ideas given is currently taking place
about power poles and hosted features on the talk feed of the Substation
On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 4:31 PM, François Lacombe
Many tricks promote some extra tags like power=pole +
transformer=distribution (power=transformer is here implicit) but they sound
like tricks to me.
It's not unusual in OSM.
See shop=organicor shop=supermarket+organic=yes;
See amenity=bar or
Il giorno 13/ago/2013, alle ore 16:31, François Lacombe
francois.laco...@telecom-bretagne.eu ha scritto:
Another possibility would be to deprecate power=pole and power=tower and use
man_made=pole and man_made=tower+tower:type=power
It would allow us to have nodes with man_made=pole +
I would prefer that you didn't pretend we will deprecate a tag so widely used
just so a small proportion of them can have another power tag on it when we can
easily just add transformer=yes or something similar.
Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote:
Il giorno 13/ago/2013, alle ore
power=tower ... 4'667'869
power=pole . 1'144'985
Looks established. It makes no sense (and there is IMHO no need) to change
these.
/al
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