Re: [Tagging] Produce tags for orchards

2017-08-02 Thread John Willis
Javbw > On Jul 29, 2017, at 11:22 PM, Tobias Zwick wrote: > > I find to tag the crop / produce of farmland is rather ineffective, as > the actual crop being cultivated can and will change over the years or > even multiple times a year. (See "crop rotation") Most of the

Re: [Tagging] Produce tags for orchards

2017-08-02 Thread Christoph Hormann
On Sunday 30 July 2017, Tobias Zwick wrote: > > > > That is not really the current use of these tags. Tea plantations > > are for example quite universally tagged landuse=farmland and not > > landuse=orchard. Same for strawberries i think. > > Hmm, how did you get this information? In taginfo,

Re: [Tagging] Produce tags for orchards

2017-07-30 Thread Jo
After reading the discussion, I also think using produce is a sound choice for such preset. Polyglot 2017-07-30 11:31 GMT+02:00 Tobias Zwick : > >> - Farmland grows plants that are harvested as a whole (i.e. with > >> tractors), thus the actual crop can change during the

Re: [Tagging] Produce tags for orchards

2017-07-30 Thread Tobias Zwick
>> - Farmland grows plants that are harvested as a whole (i.e. with >> tractors), thus the actual crop can change during the years and >> even several times within a year (see crop rotation) as after the >> harvest, nothing is left from the plant. On satellite imagery, >> they usually

Re: [Tagging] Produce tags for orchards

2017-07-30 Thread Warin
On 30-Jul-17 04:47 PM, Marc Gemis wrote: How do you map individual plants with berries of patches with herbs? I need this for a smal garden with 1 Strawberry plant and 1 grape plant. For the apple and learn trees in the garden I can use the tree tag with genus/taxon. Don't know what to use

Re: [Tagging] Produce tags for orchards

2017-07-30 Thread Marc Gemis
How do you map individual plants with berries of patches with herbs? I need this for a smal garden with 1 Strawberry plant and 1 grape plant. For the apple and learn trees in the garden I can use the tree tag with genus/taxon. Don't know what to use for the non-trees. m Op 30 jul. 2017 01:13

Re: [Tagging] Produce tags for orchards

2017-07-29 Thread Warin
On 30-Jul-17 12:04 AM, Tobias Zwick wrote: Thanks for your answers. It looks like it is pretty clear what is the currently accepted tag for orchards then. As for the difference between orchard and farmland - ignoring plantation for its missing documentation and very rare use -, we identified the

Re: [Tagging] Produce tags for orchards

2017-07-29 Thread Christoph Hormann
On Saturday 29 July 2017, Tobias Zwick wrote: > Thanks for your answers. It looks like it is pretty clear what is the > currently accepted tag for orchards then. As for the difference > between orchard and farmland - ignoring plantation for its missing > documentation and very rare use -, we

Re: [Tagging] Produce tags for orchards

2017-07-29 Thread Tobias Zwick
I find to tag the crop / produce of farmland is rather ineffective, as the actual crop being cultivated can and will change over the years or even multiple times a year. (See "crop rotation") The only place where it makes sense to specify the production in my opinion, are plantation where

Re: [Tagging] Produce tags for orchards

2017-07-29 Thread Tobias Zwick
Thanks for your answers. It looks like it is pretty clear what is the currently accepted tag for orchards then. As for the difference between orchard and farmland - ignoring plantation for its missing documentation and very rare use -, we identified the following key differences between orchard

Re: [Tagging] Produce tags for orchards

2017-07-28 Thread shane teonanacatl
;Paul Desgranges" <paul.desgran...@gmail.com> An: "Tag discussion, strategy and related tools" <tagging@openstreetmap.org>, daveswarth...@gmail.com Betreff: Re: [Tagging] Produce tags for orchards Hello  Orchards contain trees and this is what can be seen on landscape, if you

Re: [Tagging] Produce tags for orchards

2017-07-28 Thread Paul Desgranges
Hello Orchards contain trees and this is what can be seen on landscape, if you do a survey. >From trees you can get some fruits, but it is once in a while, the crop is only once per year, and only if you get lucky, some years there is nothing, depending on wheather conditions. Therefore the tag

Re: [Tagging] Produce tags for orchards

2017-07-27 Thread Dave Swarthout
Agree with Warin, who wrote: Looking at the wider application to farmland leads to things like potatoes, these are not trees. The use of the tag tree for things like strawberry plants is not good. They are NOT trees! Other plants, such as 'shrubs' too are being tagged as 'trees' too. Personally

Re: [Tagging] Produce tags for orchards

2017-07-27 Thread Warin
On 28-Jul-17 07:05 AM, Christoph Hormann wrote: On Thursday 27 July 2017, Tobias Zwick wrote: Together with Roland Krüger, I am in the process of letting users of StreetComplete, a surveyor app for OpenStreetMap, specify the produce of orchards.[1] We did a lot of research on which plants are

Re: [Tagging] Produce tags for orchards

2017-07-27 Thread Christoph Hormann
On Thursday 27 July 2017, Tobias Zwick wrote: > > Together with Roland Krüger, I am in the process of letting users of > StreetComplete, a surveyor app for OpenStreetMap, specify the produce > of orchards.[1] > We did a lot of research on which plants are grown on orchards [2] > and are now at the

[Tagging] Produce tags for orchards

2017-07-27 Thread Tobias Zwick
Hey there Together with Roland Krüger, I am in the process of letting users of StreetComplete, a surveyor app for OpenStreetMap, specify the produce of orchards.[1] We did a lot of research on which plants are grown on orchards [2] and are now at the point where we need to decide how these should