Re: [Tagging] Public transport zones

2013-03-05 Thread Steve Bennett
On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 4:37 PM, Ronnie Soak wrote: >> Fortunately there is no such thing as regional trams :) >> > > I learned very early on that there is no such thing as 'no such thing' in > OSM. > > There are quite a few regional trams here in Germany alone: ... in Victoria. Steve __

Re: [Tagging] Public transport zones

2013-03-05 Thread Ronnie Soak
Am 06.03.2013 03:56 schrieb "Steve Bennett" : > > > > Fortunately there is no such thing as regional trams :) > I learned very early on that there is no such thing as 'no such thing' in OSM. There are quite a few regional trams here in Germany alone: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%9Cberlandstr

Re: [Tagging] Public transport zones

2013-03-05 Thread Steve Bennett
On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 11:13 PM, Marc Gemis wrote: > Let me try to clarify this. > In case there are 2 companies stopping at a particular station, they both > might have different properties for that stop: e.g. the names, reference > numbers and zones. > > So the zone might depend on the company (

Re: [Tagging] Public transport zones

2013-03-05 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am 05/mar/2013 um 13:13 schrieb Marc Gemis : > So the zone might depend on the company (both bus transportation), not on the > form of transportation (bus vs. metro). This means that you need to group > those attribute name, route_refs, refs, zones, etc.) per company. > > You could either a

Re: [Tagging] Public transport zones

2013-03-05 Thread Marc Gemis
Let me try to clarify this. In case there are 2 companies stopping at a particular station, they both might have different properties for that stop: e.g. the names, reference numbers and zones. So the zone might depend on the company (both bus transportation), not on the form of transportation (bu

Re: [Tagging] Public transport zones

2013-03-04 Thread Steve Bennett
On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 3:27 AM, Marc Gemis wrote: > Why is zone ambiguous on a bus_stop ? Or any more ambiguous than "name" ? > The latter is also used for so many different things. These are deep semantic philosophy questions :) I'd point out that renderers can naively render "name" tags and pro

Re: [Tagging] Public transport zones

2013-03-04 Thread Marc Gemis
Why is zone ambiguous on a bus_stop ? Or any more ambiguous than "name" ? The latter is also used for so many different things. I see no need to make new tags for each new "zone" concept. This is only needed when 1 item can belong to different types of zones. When you need 2 different zones for m

Re: [Tagging] Public transport zones

2013-03-04 Thread Steve Bennett
On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 8:21 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > If you would prefer to use something generic referring to public > transport it would be better to use something like > public_transport_zone=* instead of just "zone" (but I'd prefer the > approach proposed by Steve and the most used acc

Re: [Tagging] Public transport zones

2013-03-03 Thread Teuxe
Le 03/03/2013 10:21, Martin Koppenhoefer a écrit : 2013/3/3 Jo : I would simply use zone=1, zone=2 or zone=1;2 on them. That's how it's done in Belgium and The Netherlands. Although we don't have overlapping zones. I would use something more specific, "zone" is way too generic and can mean eve

Re: [Tagging] Public transport zones

2013-03-03 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2013/3/3 Jo : > I would simply use zone=1, zone=2 or zone=1;2 on them. That's how it's done > in Belgium and The Netherlands. Although we don't have overlapping zones. I would use something more specific, "zone" is way too generic and can mean everything or nothing (e.g. maxspeed zones, low emiss

Re: [Tagging] Public transport zones

2013-03-02 Thread Jo
I would simply use zone=1, zone=2 or zone=1;2 on them. That's how it's done in Belgium and The Netherlands. Although we don't have overlapping zones. The rules (which change every so many years) in Flanders, the northern part of Belgium, are: travelling through 1 or 2 zones has one tariff, and trav

[Tagging] Public transport zones

2013-03-02 Thread Steve Bennett
Hi all, I don't see any wiki documentation on public transport zones: that is, how to tag that station X is in zone 3, station Y is in zone 2, for systems where the price of a ticket depends on the zones travelled. For example, in Melbourne, there are two zones. Some train stations are in zone 1