Re: [Tagging] Tagging of historic=monument

2015-05-12 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2015-05-10 16:32 GMT+02:00 Andy Mabbett : > > Every monument is a memorial, isn't it? Monuments are large memorials. > +1, the Albert memorial should be tagged as a monument in OSM. > > In British English yes; but the issue is that in other cultures (and > languages) a "monument" is a "histo

Re: [Tagging] Tagging of historic=monument

2015-05-12 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2015-05-10 3:06 GMT+02:00 Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com>: > If it is 10 metres high .. but 50 millimeters diameter ... is it still > 'large'? yes. I agree it is relative, a motorway with 10 metres length would be rather small ;-) Cheers, Martin ___ Ta

Re: [Tagging] Tagging of historic=monument

2015-05-10 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 10 May 2015 at 14:33, Janko Mihelić wrote: > Every monument is a memorial, isn't it? Monuments are large memorials. In British English yes; but the issue is that in other cultures (and languages) a "monument" is a "historic building". See: http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org/ for example.

Re: [Tagging] Tagging of historic=monument

2015-05-10 Thread Janko Mihelić
ned, 10. svi 2015. 14:54 Andy Mabbett je napisao: Really: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Memorial ? Every monument is a memorial, isn't it? Monuments are large memorials. Janko ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://l

Re: [Tagging] Tagging of historic=monument

2015-05-10 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 7 May 2015 at 06:11, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > There is confusion between monument and memorial ... suggest follow the > definitions under the OSM tag historic .. where > monument is large ... as in you can walk inside it, over it. > memorial is small .. say a plaque Really: h

Re: [Tagging] Tagging of historic=monument

2015-05-09 Thread Warin
On 8/05/2015 7:22 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2015-05-08 10:15 GMT+02:00 Marc Gemis >: On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 6:03 PM, Brad Neuhauser mailto:brad.neuhau...@gmail.com>> wrote: a photo of a stone cross over 5m tall since you cannot walk in

Re: [Tagging] Tagging of historic=monument

2015-05-08 Thread Paul Johnson
On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 3:15 AM, Marc Gemis wrote: > since you cannot walk in it/over it (cfr. monument is large ... as in you > can walk inside it, over it.) it is a memorial. > a monument is often a building IMHO > US usage frequently disagrees on an almost biblical scale. This one used to lea

Re: [Tagging] Tagging of historic=monument

2015-05-08 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2015-05-08 10:15 GMT+02:00 Marc Gemis : > On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 6:03 PM, Brad Neuhauser > wrote: > >> a photo of a stone cross over 5m tall > > > since you cannot walk in it/over it (cfr. monument is large ... as in you > can walk inside it, over it.) it is a memorial. > a monument is often a bu

Re: [Tagging] Tagging of historic=monument

2015-05-08 Thread Marc Gemis
On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 6:03 PM, Brad Neuhauser wrote: > a photo of a stone cross over 5m tall since you cannot walk in it/over it (cfr. monument is large ... as in you can walk inside it, over it.) it is a memorial. a monument is often a building IMHO regards m __

Re: [Tagging] Tagging of historic=monument

2015-05-07 Thread Daniel Koć
W dniu 07.05.2015 19:35, Janko Mihelić napisał(a): In Croatia historic=monument is often wrongly used to tag all types of sculptures. Only a dedicated icon for sculptures (tourism=artwork + artwork_type=sculpture) can fix that. The discussion about it can be found here: https://github.com/grav

Re: [Tagging] Tagging of historic=monument

2015-05-07 Thread Janko Mihelić
In Croatia historic=monument is often wrongly used to tag all types of sculptures. Only a dedicated icon for sculptures (tourism=artwork + artwork_type=sculpture) can fix that. Janko čet, 7. svi 2015. 18:05 Brad Neuhauser je napisao: > On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 12:11 AM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.c

Re: [Tagging] Tagging of historic=monument

2015-05-07 Thread Brad Neuhauser
On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 12:11 AM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > There is confusion between monument and memorial ... suggest follow the > definitions under the OSM tag historic .. where > monument is large ... as in you can walk inside it, over it. > memorial is small .. say a plaque > > A

Re: [Tagging] Tagging of historic=monument

2015-05-06 Thread Marc Gemis
It's under "Tagging", it's mentioned twice, once under "Main tag", once under "Secondary tags" On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 7:28 AM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 7/05/2015 3:18 PM, Marc Gemis wrote: > > > On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 7:11 AM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> That pro

Re: [Tagging] Tagging of historic=monument

2015-05-06 Thread Warin
On 7/05/2015 3:18 PM, Marc Gemis wrote: On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 7:11 AM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com > wrote: That proposal has no listings for Australia (possibly www.*nationaltrust*.org.au/ ?) and ignores British www.*nationaltrust

Re: [Tagging] Tagging of historic=monument

2015-05-06 Thread Marc Gemis
On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 7:11 AM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > That proposal has no listings for Australia (possibly www. > *nationaltrust*.org.au/ ?) and ignores British www.*nationaltrust*. > org.uk/ ? > I've no idea how the 'level' is decided .. while it gives some examples, > it doe

Re: [Tagging] Tagging of historic=monument

2015-05-06 Thread Warin
There is confusion between monument and memorial ... suggest follow the definitions under the OSM tag historic .. where monument is large ... as in you can walk inside it, over it. memorial is small .. say a plaque I have re-tagged some of the 'monuments' to 'memorials' where I am familiar with

Re: [Tagging] Tagging of historic=monument

2015-05-06 Thread Marc Gemis
sorry I overlooked the same link in Matthijs email. On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 6:53 AM, Marc Gemis wrote: > They is a "project"+map that shows all those "monuments" with the request > to retag them: http://www.historic.place/themes/monuments/ > > > regards > > m. > > On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 2:45 AM,

Re: [Tagging] Tagging of historic=monument

2015-05-06 Thread Marc Gemis
They is a "project"+map that shows all those "monuments" with the request to retag them: http://www.historic.place/themes/monuments/ regards m. On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 2:45 AM, Matthijs Melissen wrote: > Dear all, > > Openstreetmap-carto (the default rendering style on openstreetmap.org) > wil

Re: [Tagging] Tagging of historic=monument

2015-05-06 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
The problem may relate in part to Germany, where a natural monument is a thing. Also in the USA the tag is ambiguous. historic=memorial perhaps better fits the definition. But even then there are many small memorials and roadside plaques that could reasonably be tagged historic=memorial or histori

[Tagging] Tagging of historic=monument

2015-05-06 Thread Matthijs Melissen
Dear all, Openstreetmap-carto (the default rendering style on openstreetmap.org) will soon render objects tagged historic=monument with an icon. There is currently a large number of objects incorrectly tagged as historic=monument. The definition of historic=monument according to the wiki: 'A mem