Re: [Tagging] amenity=tourist_bus_parking

Thank you for this clarification. I will try to repair the lots I have tagged. Javbw > On Jan 14, 2020, at 5:02 AM, Markus wrote: > > In order that data understand your example and before we've found a > solution for parkings for multiple vehicle classes, i would recommend > to tag it as

Re: [Tagging] amenity=tourist_bus_parking

To me, there are a few requirements of “designated” parking lots: 1) it is signed as such: "Cars go here and HGV go there” , “cars, right” and “HGV, left”, directing you to different lots. Lots are labeled on signage telling which vehicle types to go where (cars/HGV/motorcycle/ + disabled).

Re: [Tagging] amenity=tourist_bus_parking

Hi John On Thu, 9 Jan 2020 at 22:37, John Willis via Tagging wrote: > > https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=17/36.31737/139.61884 > > Here is a good example of the kind of situations I have in my area: > > - a service area with two different lots, car and HGV (bus/lorry) adjacent to > each

Re: [Tagging] amenity=tourist_bus_parking

https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=17/36.31737/139.61884 Here is a good example of the kind of situations I have in my area: - a service area with two different lots, car and HGV (bus/lorry) adjacent to each other, with a satellite bathroom for the busses. - service area is segregated by

Re: [Tagging] amenity=tourist_bus_parking

It is not unusual to have one parking area with one name with dedicated areas for different vehicle categories. I cannot use amenity=parking for both the entire parking area and the vehicle-type-specific "sub"-areas, at least JOSM does complain when you do that. We could ignore that and use nested

Re: [Tagging] amenity=tourist_bus_parking

If I have a sign that says all cars go here, and all HGV goes over there, and one is painted for 1000 car spots and one has 50 giant bus spots, those are designated lots. I have used parking_space when I have found A lone disabled space - but a group of 50 spots for busses is a bus lot. At

Re: [Tagging] amenity=tourist_bus_parking

> On Jan 7, 2020, at 3:37 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer > wrote: > > For a municipal tourist bus parking, who is "customers" referring to? > Customers of what? Tollway service area lots inside the toll area are “customers” of nexco, the operators. There are “permissive” lots outside the toll

Re: [Tagging] amenity=tourist_bus_parking

On 08/01/2020 10:14, Volker Schmidt wrote: What about going back to the wiki and make use of the fact that amenity=parking_space can be used for this. Make separate parking space areas for different vehicle types. Add parking

Re: [Tagging] amenity=tourist_bus_parking

What about going back to the wiki and make use of the fact that amenity=parking_space can be used for this. Make separate parking space areas for different vehicle types. Add parking entrances

Re: [Tagging] amenity=tourist_bus_parking

sent from a phone > On 7. Jan 2020, at 23:10, Phake Nick wrote: > > amenity=parking > parking=bus > bus=tourist_bus a tourist_bus is not a subtype of a “bus” in OpenStreetMap. Cheers Martin ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Tagging] amenity=tourist_bus_parking

Le 06.01.20 à 03:24, John Willis via Tagging a écrit : > parking=tourism > parking=disabled > parking=loading_dock > parking=taxi > parking=waiting_lot that conflit with the current meaning : https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:parking parking=surface/underground/roof top would have looked

Re: [Tagging] amenity=tourist_bus_parking

With all those different types of parking facilities, wouldn't it be easier to create some tag combinations like the following? amenity=parking parking=bus bus=tourist_bus ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Tagging] amenity=tourist_bus_parking

With access tags we "tag the law" (I like your experssion). Access tags are about legal access (unfortunately with some prominent exeptions, like wheelchair=yes|no). On Tue, 7 Jan 2020 at 22:28, Florimond Berthoux < florimond.berth...@gmail.com> wrote: > Sorry I don't understand the point of

Re: [Tagging] amenity=tourist_bus_parking

Sorry I don't understand the point of the questions. Legally a cargo bike is a bicycle (or a tricycle which is the same) in France. But road laws (Code de la route) only apply on roads open to public traffic in France so the diversity can be wider than the law. And we don't tag the law in OSM. Le

Re: [Tagging] amenity=tourist_bus_parking

Am Mo., 6. Jan. 2020 um 03:25 Uhr schrieb John Willis via Tagging < tagging@openstreetmap.org>: > > > On Jan 6, 2020, at 1:27 AM, Florimond Berthoux < > florimond.berth...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I have just detected the wiki page "amenity=tourist_bus_parking" > > > Why is this it’s own amenity,

Re: [Tagging] amenity=tourist_bus_parking

> On Jan 6, 2020, at 1:27 AM, Florimond Berthoux > wrote: > >> I have just detected the wiki page "amenity=tourist_bus_parking" Why is this it’s own amenity, instead of amenity=parking bus=designated access=customers ? Many Service areas in Japan has an HGV/BUS parking lot with amenities

Re: [Tagging] amenity=tourist_bus_parking

sent from a phone > On 5. Jan 2020, at 23:22, Volker Schmidt wrote: > > x=designated means access only for x and and there is a sign, ore something > equivalent, stating this > x=designated AND y=designated means access only for x and for y and there is > a sign, ore something equivalent,

Re: [Tagging] amenity=tourist_bus_parking

We had this discussion recently regardng parking spaces. The cargobike vs bike is the same as the car vs motorcycle access when it comes to parking spaces. My approach in my foot-bicycle-vehicle-motor_vehicle world is: x=yes means x is allowed and nothing is said about other means of

Re: [Tagging] amenity=tourist_bus_parking

sent from a phone > On 5. Jan 2020, at 20:18, Florimond Berthoux > wrote: > >> is “designated” implying that other vehicles cannot (legally or physically?) >> use the parking, or that there are specific measures so that the designated >> vehicles fit perfectly into the fixtures? > > No,

Re: [Tagging] amenity=tourist_bus_parking

On Sun, 5 Jan 2020 at 17:29, Florimond Berthoux wrote: > > Using access tags is the good way to go, so we can use > [vehicle]=yes/no/designated. > Designated is to explicitly say that the place is specifically made for them. How would you tag a designated car park for customers only? designated

Re: [Tagging] amenity=tourist_bus_parking

On Sat, 4 Jan 2020 at 22:12, Volker Schmidt wrote: > > In particular I would like some tagging scheme that allows you to identify a > parking facility, and within that same facility (which carries the name) the > parking sub-facilities for cars, buses, HGVs, motorcycles, ...That would > make

Re: [Tagging] amenity=tourist_bus_parking

Le dim. 5 janv. 2020 à 18:41, Martin Koppenhoefer a écrit : > > is “designated” implying that other vehicles cannot (legally or physically?) > use the parking, or that there are specific measures so that the designated > vehicles fit perfectly into the fixtures? No, that would depend on the

Re: [Tagging] amenity=tourist_bus_parking

is “designated” implying that other vehicles cannot (legally or physically?) use the parking, or that there are specific measures so that the designated vehicles fit perfectly into the fixtures? Cheers Martin ___ Tagging mailing list

Re: [Tagging] amenity=tourist_bus_parking

Hi, Real case in Paris, we have : bicycle parking, motorcycle parking, bicycle-motorcycle parking mixed, free floating (dock less) scooter-bicycle parking, and cargo bike parking. How can I map that with only motorcycle_parking and bicycle_parking tags ??? I can't properly. Using access tags is

Re: [Tagging] amenity=tourist_bus_parking

sent from a phone > On 4. Jan 2020, at 22:12, Volker Schmidt wrote: > > My feeling is that we should not add more humanities along that line, like > RV_parking, hgv_parking, snowmobile_parking, cargo_bike_parking and so on, > but try to think,of something better. > In particular I would

Re: [Tagging] amenity=tourist_bus_parking

I agree, I had the problem on motorway service areas, where parking is segregated between HGVs and cars. I solved it with access tags for the respective vehicle class. On 04.01.2020 22:10, Volker Schmidt wrote: I have just detected the wiki page "amenity=tourist_bus_parking" It has so far only

[Tagging] amenity=tourist_bus_parking

I have just detected the wiki page "amenity=tourist_bus_parking" It has so far only 16 uses (including one by myself a few minutes ago) I am not happy with this new tag. Agreed, we have the tags amenity=bicycle_parking and amenity=motorcycle_parking, but they have been with OSM for years, whereas