Re: [Tagging] tagging very wide steps - highway=steps on an area?

2015-03-04 Thread Warin
On 4/03/2015 8:24 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2015-03-04 2:37 GMT+01:00 Warin 61sundow...@gmail.com mailto:61sundow...@gmail.com: Using the relation, I've added step area to the Sydney Opera House .. it is a very wide area .. http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/4645750

Re: [Tagging] tagging very wide steps - highway=steps on an area?

2015-03-04 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2015-03-04 10:46 GMT+01:00 Warin 61sundow...@gmail.com: There also seems to be a contradiction in that the standard steps ways extend beyond the area and up to the center of the road. I'd suggest to split them and have them end at the first riser (= the way with the role lower) and tag the

Re: [Tagging] tagging very wide steps - highway=steps on an area?

2015-03-04 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2015-03-04 2:37 GMT+01:00 Warin 61sundow...@gmail.com: Using the relation, I've added step area to the Sydney Opera House .. it is a very wide area .. http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/4645750 IMHO you don't need the lateral ways in this case, but they won't harm anyway. I suggest you

Re: [Tagging] tagging very wide steps - highway=steps on an area?

2015-03-03 Thread Warin
Using the relation, I've added step area to the Sydney Opera House .. it is a very wide area .. http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/4645750 http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_dWyIdmBCSgM/S4N0sVrvg1I/BuM/Y-b1wCmXbps/s1600-h/DSCN7848.JPG Are there any examples of a non rectangular large area

Re: [Tagging] tagging very wide steps - highway=steps on an area?

2015-03-02 Thread Tobias Knerr
On 01.03.2015 23:26, Warin wrote: I have edited the wiki to better reflect the situation. I have also changed the order ... Thank you! :) ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] tagging very wide steps - highway=steps on an area?

2015-03-01 Thread Warin
On 2/03/2015 2:14 AM, fly wrote: Am 28.02.2015 um 10:39 schrieb Tobias Knerr: On 28.02.2015 05:44, Warin wrote: Within OSM .. I've checked http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:incline - that sets a 'standard' for the incline direction. I'm tempted to simply add the information to the wiki

Re: [Tagging] tagging very wide steps - highway=steps on an area?

2015-02-27 Thread Warin
On 28/02/2015 2:53 PM, John Willis wrote: On Feb 27, 2015, at 8:09 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com mailto:dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: 2015-02-27 9:07 GMT+01:00 johnw jo...@mac.com mailto:jo...@mac.com: I read the wiki entry on steps

Re: [Tagging] tagging very wide steps - highway=steps on an area?

2015-02-27 Thread John Willis
On Feb 27, 2015, at 8:09 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: 2015-02-27 9:07 GMT+01:00 johnw jo...@mac.com: I read the wiki entry on steps (http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dsteps) and the discussion page, and besides the discussion on which

Re: [Tagging] tagging very wide steps - highway=steps on an area?

2015-02-27 Thread fly
Am 27.02.2015 um 16:56 schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer: 2015-02-27 16:36 GMT+01:00 fly lowfligh...@googlemail.com: I think the easiest way to represent several upper and lower is to model several stairs, one for each upper+lower combo. This can happen for example when there are blocks in the

Re: [Tagging] tagging very wide steps - highway=steps on an area?

2015-02-27 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2015-02-27 16:36 GMT+01:00 fly lowfligh...@googlemail.com: Well, go for it. tried now, but unfortunately I can't do it based on the current aerial imagery (resolution of available imagery is insufficient). Could so some estimates, but that doesn't seem appropriate and I'm also short on time

Re: [Tagging] tagging very wide steps - highway=steps on an area?

2015-02-27 Thread fly
Am 27.02.2015 um 12:09 schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer: 2015-02-27 9:07 GMT+01:00 johnw jo...@mac.com: I read the wiki entry on steps ( http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dsteps http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway=steps) and the discussion page, and besides the

Re: [Tagging] tagging very wide steps - highway=steps on an area?

2015-02-27 Thread Eric Sibert
I had assumed for years that the direction pointing upwards was a commonly agreed on standard, being myself an architect I hadn't expected this to be questionable, but as I got so much flak from people insisting on the other way round, Like me :-p (although not insisting). Indeed, as a poor

Re: [Tagging] tagging very wide steps - highway=steps on an area?

2015-02-27 Thread fly
Am 27.02.2015 um 16:16 schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer: 2015-02-27 14:24 GMT+01:00 fly lowfligh...@googlemail.com: Though, I am not sure how to model steps with fading steps to one or both sides and several upper or lower I am not sure if I understand fading steps correctly. Usually I'd say

Re: [Tagging] tagging very wide steps - highway=steps on an area?

2015-02-27 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2015-02-27 14:24 GMT+01:00 fly lowfligh...@googlemail.com: Though, I am not sure how to model steps with fading steps to one or both sides and several upper or lower I am not sure if I understand fading steps correctly. Usually I'd say that the single step is there as long as there is any

Re: [Tagging] tagging very wide steps - highway=steps on an area?

2015-02-27 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2015-02-27 16:36 GMT+01:00 fly lowfligh...@googlemail.com: I think the easiest way to represent several upper and lower is to model several stairs, one for each upper+lower combo. This can happen for example when there are blocks in the middle of the stairs. Do I really need one relation

[Tagging] tagging very wide steps - highway=steps on an area?

2015-02-27 Thread johnw
I read the wiki entry on steps (http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dsteps http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway=steps) and the discussion page, and besides the discussion on which direction means uphill (that really needs to be decided), I had another big question -

Re: [Tagging] tagging very wide steps - highway=steps on an area?

2015-02-27 Thread dkise...@osm.me
27.02.2015, 14:33, Warin 61sundow...@gmail.com:  On an architectural drawing, a stairway arrow points upwards.  As specified in international standard ISO 6790 .. and copied in British Standards B.S. 1192 ... Australian/New Zealand Standards ANZS 1100... and probably in American Standards

Re: [Tagging] tagging very wide steps - highway=steps on an area?

2015-02-27 Thread dkiselev
Hi johnw. I think highway=steps on way for routing + area:highway=steps on a polygon would be the best. 27.02.2015, 13:23, johnw jo...@mac.com:  I read the wiki entry on steps (http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dsteps) and the discussion page, and besides the discussion on

Re: [Tagging] tagging very wide steps - highway=steps on an area?

2015-02-27 Thread Warin
On 27/02/2015 7:39 PM, dkise...@osm.me wrote: Hi johnw. I think highway=steps on way for routing + area:highway=steps on a polygon would be the best. Good .. the Sydney Opera House and Sydney Town Hall all have wide area steps ... they have tagged ways ... I'll have to check areas. There is

Re: [Tagging] tagging very wide steps - highway=steps on an area?

2015-02-27 Thread Warin
On 27/02/2015 8:41 PM, dkise...@osm.me wrote: 27.02.2015, 14:33, Warin 61sundow...@gmail.com: On an architectural drawing, a stairway arrow points upwards. As specified in international standard ISO 6790 .. and copied in British Standards B.S. 1192 ... Australian/New Zealand Standards

Re: [Tagging] tagging very wide steps - highway=steps on an area?

2015-02-27 Thread John Willis
On Feb 27, 2015, at 6:29 PM, Warin 61sundow...@gmail.com wrote: OSM should follow established standards when available Sounds great! It looks like step direction has been bandied about for a while, so maybe we should put it to a vote. Should we make some kind of proposal page? Javbw

Re: [Tagging] tagging very wide steps - highway=steps on an area?

2015-02-27 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2015-02-27 9:07 GMT+01:00 johnw jo...@mac.com: I read the wiki entry on steps ( http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dsteps http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway=steps) and the discussion page, and besides the discussion on which direction means uphill (that really