Re: [Tagging] what is the meaning of bicycle=yes on highway=path

sent from a phone > On 12. Apr 2019, at 15:47, Joseph Eisenberg > wrote: > > My understanding is that highway=path is rather problematic if there > are no additional tags, because it's not clear if all paths are open > to bicycles or horses. See >

Re: [Tagging] what is the meaning of bicycle=yes on highway=path

Volker Schmidt writes: > Another thing: > Greg writes: > " "highway=footway" has exactly the same > semantics as "highway=path foot=designated". ...Note that both leave > bicycle and horse as > implicit" > I think this is wrong: highway=footway excludes bicycle, or at least the > footway wiki

Re: [Tagging] what is the meaning of bicycle=yes on highway=path

On 14/04/19 01:42, Volker Schmidt wrote: I am not happy with the assumption that a path on the map without indication that it is open to the public is better than not having it on the map at all. If I am navigating using a paper map then that road/path is usefull information. If it is not on

Re: [Tagging] what is the meaning of bicycle=yes on highway=path

I am not happy with the assumption that a path on the map without indication that it is open to the public is better than not having it on the map at all. This is only true if the former is labelled as such (access=unknown). Otherwise its useless information. Think about it: You wouldn't think for

Re: [Tagging] what is the meaning of bicycle=yes on highway=path

Richard Fairhurst writes: > Volker Schmidt wrote: >> "highway=path" implies "bicycle=yes" (in most jurisdictions) - see the >> proposed Default-Access-Restriction for all countries > > That's not a default that I feel enormously comfortable with. Whatever the > wiki might say, "bare"

Re: [Tagging] what is the meaning of bicycle=yes on highway=path

Joseph Eisenberg writes: > "an armchair mapper should add access=unknown to the tagging" > > I certainly don't do this when mapping from aerial imagery, and > neither of the editors that I've used (ID and JOSM) have suggest > adding "access=unknown" to a newly mapped path. I only add

Re: [Tagging] what is the meaning of bicycle=yes on highway=path

"an armchair mapper should add access=unknown to the tagging" > > I certainly don't do this when mapping from aerial imagery, and > neither of the editors that I've used (ID and JOSM) have suggest > adding "access=unknown" to a newly mapped path. > Thinking about this, I would say it's wrong.

Re: [Tagging] what is the meaning of bicycle=yes on highway=path

Apr 12, 2019, 3:24 PM by vosc...@gmail.com: > @Mateusz > > I just got alerted that you added a paragraph on the wiki Page > > OSM_tags_for_routing/Access-Restrictions > > in which you state: > > "Note that

Re: [Tagging] what is the meaning of bicycle=yes on highway=path

"an armchair mapper should add access=unknown to the tagging" I certainly don't do this when mapping from aerial imagery, and neither of the editors that I've used (ID and JOSM) have suggest adding "access=unknown" to a newly mapped path. My understanding is that highway=path is rather

Re: [Tagging] what is the meaning of bicycle=yes on highway=path

On 12/04/2019 14:24, Volker Schmidt wrote: @Mateusz I just got alerted that you added a paragraph on the wiki Page OSM_tags_for_routing/Access-Restrictions in which you state: " Note that explicit tagging of

Re: [Tagging] what is the meaning of bicycle=yes on highway=path

@Mateusz I just got alerted that you added a paragraph on the wiki Page OSM_tags_for_routing/Access-Restrictions in which you state: " Note that explicit tagging of access repeating what following tables imply may be

Re: [Tagging] what is the meaning of bicycle=yes on highway=path

sent from a phone > On 11. Apr 2019, at 19:45, marc marc wrote: > > look like wrong. some mtb tag exist (including the misued mtb=*, > misused because I doubt there are so many signs saying that > a path is forbidden to mtb's. > https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/search?q=mtb > what's a path

Re: [Tagging] what is the meaning of bicycle=yes on highway=path

sent from a phone > On 11. Apr 2019, at 17:48, Paul Johnson wrote: > > It's recommended that bicycle and foot get tagged explicitly where there's no > obvious global default (like footway, path, cycleway and motorway). +1, please do not remove “apparently redundant” access tags. IMHO we

Re: [Tagging] what is the meaning of bicycle=yes on highway=path

Apr 11, 2019, 4:43 PM by vosc...@gmail.com: > In the context of cycling-related tagging there is an issue which I would > like to bring up. > This regards the tag combination highway=path and bicycle=yes. > > Access tags generally are about legal access (with a few exceptions which do > not

Re: [Tagging] what is the meaning of bicycle=yes on highway=path

Volker Schmidt wrote: > I presume that your router would fall into the same trap, or does it > evaluate mtb:scale? Of course it does. :) cheers Richard -- Sent from: http://gis.19327.n8.nabble.com/Tagging-f5258744.html ___ Tagging mailing list

Re: [Tagging] what is the meaning of bicycle=yes on highway=path

On 11/04/2019 17:13, Volker Schmidt wrote: On Thu, 11 Apr 2019 at 17:50, Paul Johnson > wrote: It's recommended that bicycle and foot get tagged explicitly where there's no obvious global default (like footway, path, cycleway and motorway). Where can

Re: [Tagging] what is the meaning of bicycle=yes on highway=path

Hello, Le 11.04.19 à 16:43, Volker Schmidt a écrit : > OpenCycleMap renders a "highway=path" with "bicycle=yes" in the same way > as a dedicated cycleway ("highway=cycleway" with our without > "bicycle=designated") or a combined foot-cycle-way ("highway=path" with > "foot=designated" and

Re: [Tagging] what is the meaning of bicycle=yes on highway=path

> That's not a default that I feel enormously comfortable with. Whatever the > wiki might say, "bare" highway=path (no other tags) is often used for > little > footpaths across city parks, sidewalks, and so on. > cycle.travel errs on the side of caution and therefore doesn't route along >

Re: [Tagging] what is the meaning of bicycle=yes on highway=path

Volker Schmidt wrote: > "highway=path" implies "bicycle=yes" (in most jurisdictions) - see the > proposed Default-Access-Restriction for all countries That's not a default that I feel enormously comfortable with. Whatever the wiki might say, "bare" highway=path (no other tags) is often used for

Re: [Tagging] what is the meaning of bicycle=yes on highway=path

On Thu, 11 Apr 2019 at 17:50, Paul Johnson wrote: > It's recommended that bicycle and foot get tagged explicitly where there's > no obvious global default (like footway, path, cycleway and motorway). > Where can I find this recommendation ? I had found only these default access tables:

Re: [Tagging] what is the meaning of bicycle=yes on highway=path

It's recommended that bicycle and foot get tagged explicitly where there's no obvious global default (like footway, path, cycleway and motorway). On Thu, Apr 11, 2019, 09:44 Volker Schmidt wrote: > In the context of cycling-related tagging there is an issue which I would > like to bring up. >

[Tagging] what is the meaning of bicycle=yes on highway=path

In the context of cycling-related tagging there is an issue which I would like to bring up. This regards the tag combination highway=path and bicycle=yes. Access tags generally are about legal access (with a few exceptions which do not apply here) "highway=path" implies "bicycle=yes" (in most