Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Power pole extension

2017-02-16 Thread Jherome Miguel
Okay, okay, RMS and peak are not the same. Now, move on to the main topic, power poles. Well, what is called a power pole here in OSM is primarily a wood, concrete, or steel pole, usually with a cross-arm. But looking deeper in the real world, power poles have more designs aside from the usual

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Power pole extension

2017-02-15 Thread Warin
On 16-Feb-17 01:00 PM, John F. Eldredge wrote: The RMS voltage of an alternating-current electrical source is the direct-current voltage that would supply the same power into a resistive load. That is to say, imagine you have an AC power source operating a heating element, and a DC power

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Power pole extension

2017-02-15 Thread John F. Eldredge
The RMS voltage of an alternating-current electrical source is the direct-current voltage that would supply the same power into a resistive load. That is to say, imagine you have an AC power source operating a heating element, and a DC power source operating an identical heating element. The

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Power pole extension

2017-02-15 Thread François Lacombe
2017-02-15 9:33 GMT+01:00 Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com>: > Not certain what elaboration you need? Isolation ...is simply turning a > line off, for maintenance/repair. > Switches on poles tend to be manual (mechanical). Switches in substations > and stations tend to be automatic. > Ok I agree I

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Power pole extension

2017-02-15 Thread Jherome Miguel
On Feb 15, 2017 4:42 PM, "Warin" <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: On 15-Feb-17 05:52 PM, Jherome Miguel wrote: On Feb 13, 2017 4:19 PM, "François Lacombe" wrote: Hi Warin, 2017-02-13 8:42 GMT+01:00 Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com>: > > In Australia; > Heavy industry

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Power pole extension

2017-02-15 Thread Warin
On 15-Feb-17 05:52 PM, Jherome Miguel wrote: On Feb 13, 2017 4:19 PM, "François Lacombe" > wrote: Hi Warin, 2017-02-13 8:42 GMT+01:00 Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com >: In

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Power pole extension

2017-02-14 Thread Jherome Miguel
On Feb 13, 2017 4:19 PM, "François Lacombe" wrote: Hi Warin, 2017-02-13 8:42 GMT+01:00 Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com>: > > In Australia; > Heavy industry gets 3 phases. > Same in Europe, 2-phases or 3-phases depends on needs. Here 3-phases for heavy industry :

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Power pole extension

2017-02-13 Thread François Lacombe
Hi Warin, 2017-02-13 8:42 GMT+01:00 Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com>: > > In Australia; > Heavy industry gets 3 phases. > Same in Europe, 2-phases or 3-phases depends on needs. Here 3-phases for heavy industry :

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Power pole extension

2017-02-12 Thread Warin
12, 2017 7:14 PM *To:* Tag discussion, strategy and related tools *Subject:* Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Power pole extension I think I've seen two-phase power once, in a commercial building in Philadelphia, built around 1905. All the high-power uses (HVAC, mostly) in

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Power pole extension

2017-02-12 Thread François Lacombe
n.b.kenny+...@gmail.com> > *Sent:* February 12, 2017 7:14 PM > *To:* Tag discussion, strategy and related tools > *Subject:* Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Power pole extension > > I think I've seen two-phase power once, in a commercial building in > Philadelphia, built a

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Power pole extension

2017-02-12 Thread Tristan Anderson
on the wiki pages for power=transformer and the new power pole extension proposal. From: Kevin Kenny <kevin.b.kenny+...@gmail.com> Sent: February 12, 2017 7:14 PM To: Tag discussion, strategy and related tools Subject: Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Powe

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Power pole extension

2017-02-12 Thread Kevin Kenny
I think I've seen two-phase power once, in a commercial building in Philadelphia, built around 1905. All the high-power uses (HVAC, mostly) in the building were actually driven off 208 or 480 volt three-phase, provided by phase-converting transformers and switch gear. There were a handful 240-volt

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Power pole extension

2017-02-12 Thread Mike Thompson
On Sun, Feb 12, 2017 at 4:34 PM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 13-Feb-17 10:25 AM, Tristan Anderson wrote: > > If two-phase power isn't currently in use anywhere, it simply means we > won't see any instances of the tag phases=2, just like how we'll never see > phases=17. It doesn't

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Power pole extension

2017-02-12 Thread Warin
elated tools *Subject:* Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Power pole extension After a little digging, it seems that there *was* at one time such a thing as two phase electric power, with the phases 90 degrees apart[1] [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two-phase_electric_power

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Power pole extension

2017-02-12 Thread Tristan Anderson
on. From: Mike Thompson <miketh...@gmail.com> Sent: February 12, 2017 6:07 PM To: Tag discussion, strategy and related tools Subject: Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Power pole extension After a little digging, it seems that there *was* at one time such a thing a

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Power pole extension

2017-02-12 Thread Warin
I think the incorrect term '2 phase' is the split single phase (or single phase 3 wire) that the Americans use, 120 v from 'neutral' to either line but 240 v from line to line and that 240 v is termed '2 phase' despite the fact that it is a single phase. All of these lines are supposed to

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Power pole extension

2017-02-12 Thread ajt1...@gmail.com
On 12/02/2017 20:07, Mike Thompson wrote: Jherome, ... Having spent some time in the electrical industry (in the U.S.) my understanding is there is no such thing as "2 phase", only single phase and three phase. In terms of supply to premises, you're going to get single phase or

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Power pole extension

2017-02-12 Thread Mike Thompson
Jherome, Thanks for your work on this. I will study this more, but one thing that jumped out is that in one of your examples you stated "phase=2." Having spent some time in the electrical industry (in the U.S.) my understanding is there is no such thing as "2 phase", only single phase and three