Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - park_drive

2019-12-09 Thread Warin
On 09/12/19 10:12, Martin Scholtes wrote: Am 08.12.2019 um 05:04 schrieb Alessandro Sarretta: Hi Martin, my doubt on your proposal is that I think the only useful value would be "designated" (anyway, can you share any example/picture of a sign describing a park specificly designated for

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - park_drive

2019-12-09 Thread brad
It isn't limited to that. On 12/7/19 4:49 PM, Martin Scholtes wrote: Am 07.12.2019 um 18:59 schrieb brad: We already have park_ride tag.   I don't see the new tag adding anything? https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:park%20ride?uselang=en-US https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/133916328

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - park_drive

2019-12-08 Thread Martin Scholtes
Am 08.12.2019 um 05:04 schrieb Alessandro Sarretta: > > Hi Martin, > > my doubt on your proposal is that I think the only useful value would > be "designated" (anyway, can you share any example/picture of a sign > describing a park specificly designated for carpooling?). But in this > case I'd

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - park_drive

2019-12-08 Thread Tom Pfeifer
On 08.12.2019 00:49, Martin Scholtes wrote: Am 07.12.2019 um 18:59 schrieb brad: We already have park_ride tag.   I don't see the new tag adding anything? "park and ride" rather describes the change to public transport and not the continuation of driving with others in a private vehicle.

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - park_drive

2019-12-07 Thread Alessandro Sarretta
Hi Martin, my doubt on your proposal is that I think the only useful value would be "designated" (anyway, can you share any example/picture of a sign describing a park specificly designated for carpooling?). But in this case I'd support As far as I know, in a general-use parking (without

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - park_drive

2019-12-07 Thread Warin
On 08/12/19 10:54, Martin Scholtes wrote: Am 07.12.2019 um 19:44 schrieb Philip Barnes: On Thu, 2019-12-05 at 14:46 +0100, Martin Scholtes wrote: Am 05.12.2019 um 12:41 schrieb Sören Reinecke via Tagging: Allows the tag the mapping of carpool meeting points? The proposal aims at marking

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - park_drive

2019-12-07 Thread Warin
On 08/12/19 10:43, Martin Scholtes wrote: Am 07.12.2019 um 09:33 schrieb Warin: park_drive=no for parking of customers only or private. These should already be tagged with an access tag to say this .. so it is redundant? This form should not be explicitly stated but rather understood as

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - park_drive

2019-12-07 Thread Martin Scholtes
Am 07.12.2019 um 19:44 schrieb Philip Barnes: > On Thu, 2019-12-05 at 14:46 +0100, Martin Scholtes wrote: >> Am 05.12.2019 um 12:41 schrieb Sören Reinecke via Tagging: >> >>> Allows the tag the mapping of carpool meeting points? >> The proposal aims at marking parking places where one could meet

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - park_drive

2019-12-07 Thread Martin Scholtes
Am 07.12.2019 um 18:59 schrieb brad: > We already have park_ride tag.   I don't see the new tag adding anything? > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:park%20ride?uselang=en-US > https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/133916328 "park and ride" rather describes the change to public transport and

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - park_drive

2019-12-07 Thread Martin Scholtes
Am 07.12.2019 um 09:55 schrieb Shawn K. Quinn: > > I have also seen this referred to as "park and > pool" (short for "park and carpool"). Would this be too confusing of a > name as well? park_pool I find too confusing -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Martin Scholtes smime.p7s Description:

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - park_drive

2019-12-07 Thread Martin Scholtes
Am 07.12.2019 um 09:33 schrieb Warin: > park_drive=no for parking of customers only or private. > These should already be tagged with an access tag to say this .. so it > is redundant? This form should not be explicitly stated but rather understood as implicit values. Similar to highway=footway,

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - park_drive

2019-12-07 Thread Warin
On 07/12/19 20:55, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone On 7. Dec 2019, at 09:57, Shawn K. Quinn wrote: I have also seen this referred to as "park and pool" (short for "park and carpool"). Would this be too confusing of a name as well? seems comprehensive, I agree there should be

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - park_drive

2019-12-07 Thread Philip Barnes
On Thu, 2019-12-05 at 14:46 +0100, Martin Scholtes wrote: > Am 05.12.2019 um 12:41 schrieb Sören Reinecke via Tagging: > > > Allows the tag the mapping of carpool meeting points? > The proposal aims at marking parking places where one could meet to > carpool or which explicitly provide for

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - park_drive

2019-12-07 Thread brad
On 12/6/19 7:59 PM, Paul Johnson wrote: On Thu, Dec 5, 2019, 04:09 Martin Scholtes > wrote: Hello, I would like to inform you that I have made a suggestion about park and drive. This resulted from a discussion in the OSM DE Telegram Chat.

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - park_drive

2019-12-07 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 7. Dec 2019, at 09:57, Shawn K. Quinn wrote: > > I have also seen this referred to as "park and > pool" (short for "park and carpool"). Would this be too confusing of a name > as well? seems comprehensive, I agree there should be the „and“ in the tag Cheers Martin

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - park_drive

2019-12-07 Thread Shawn K. Quinn
On 12/6/19 18:38, Martin Koppenhoefer via Tagging wrote: sent from a phone On 6. Dec 2019, at 23:28, Martin Scholtes wrote: What exactly don't you understand? Apart from your question, I can't figure it out. the name is misleading, rather than park_and_drive, the name of the concept and

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - park_drive

2019-12-07 Thread Warin
On 05/12/19 21:08, Martin Scholtes wrote: Hello, I would like to inform you that I have made a suggestion about park and drive. This resulted from a discussion in the OSM DE Telegram Chat. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/park_drive Definition: Information that can be

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - park_drive

2019-12-06 Thread Paul Johnson
On Thu, Dec 5, 2019, 04:09 Martin Scholtes wrote: > Hello, > > I would like to inform you that I have made a suggestion about park and > drive. This resulted from a discussion in the OSM DE Telegram Chat. > > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/park_drive > Definition:

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - park_drive

2019-12-06 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer via Tagging
sent from a phone > On 6. Dec 2019, at 23:28, Martin Scholtes wrote: > > What exactly don't you understand? Apart from your question, I can't > figure it out. the name is misleading, rather than park_and_drive, the name of the concept and borrowing from the well known park and ride

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - park_drive

2019-12-06 Thread Martin Scholtes
Am 06.12.2019 um 11:58 schrieb Philip Barnes: > My first thought on seeing this, before reading, was a North American parkway > where you drive through parkland. > > Still not sure how this isn't carpooling. > > Phil (trigpoint) What exactly don't you understand? Apart from your question, I can't

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - park_drive

2019-12-06 Thread Philip Barnes
On Thursday, 5 December 2019, Paul Allen wrote: > On Thu, 5 Dec 2019 at 10:10, Martin Scholtes > wrote: > > > > > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/park_drive > > Definition: Information that can be taken on this parking lot to form a > > carpool. > > > > I would prefer the

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - park_drive

2019-12-05 Thread Paul Allen
On Thu, 5 Dec 2019 at 10:10, Martin Scholtes wrote: > > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/park_drive > Definition: Information that can be taken on this parking lot to form a > carpool. > I would prefer the key to park_and_drive. It's longer, and more typing, but better

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - park_drive

2019-12-05 Thread Martin Scholtes
Am 05.12.2019 um 12:41 schrieb Sören Reinecke via Tagging: > Allows the tag the mapping of carpool meeting points? The proposal aims at marking parking places where one could meet to carpool or which explicitly provide for parking one's vehicle and forming a carpool. An example would be a car

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - park_drive

2019-12-05 Thread Martin Scholtes
Am I right in assuming that you support the proposal with the deviation to only specify the values "designated" and "informal"? Am 05.12.2019 um 12:13 schrieb Volker Schmidt: > The only value of this key that is clear > park_drive=designated (i.e. there are signs that allow only > car-pooling

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - park_drive

2019-12-05 Thread Sören Reinecke via Tagging
> Forgive me, but this is my first time on that list.There's not much to know. Now the discussion part begins, be attentative. Usually the discussion ends after the two week period and then voting takes place.I do not quite understand the definition of your proposal. Allows the tag the mapping of

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - park_drive

2019-12-05 Thread Volker Schmidt
The only value of this key that is clear park_drive=designated (i.e. there are signs that allow only car-pooling parking) Any other car park that does not have a short time limit can be used for that purpose. Local knowledge may be used to identify those for which car_drive=informal might be a