Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - Payment denominations

2022-10-19 Thread Michael Brandtner
Hi Tom, Am 10.10.22 um 10:54 schrieb Tom Pfeifer: Accepting a particular coin or banknote is among short-living business policies that can change frequently and is often harder to observe than e.g. opening_hours. Thus they are difficult to maintain and likely to be outdated. In my opinion,

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - Payment denominations

2022-10-19 Thread Michael Brandtner
Hi Martin, Am 11.10.22 um 09:10 schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer: in Italy, one and two cent coins have been abolished, they are not accepted any more in shops, and while prices are still ending mostly with 9, the sum gets rounded. I guess this should not be mapped because the default? As for

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - Payment denominations

2022-10-11 Thread Volker Schmidt
On Tue, 11 Oct 2022, 09:16 Martin Koppenhoefer, wrote: > in Italy, one and two cent coins have been abolished, they are not > accepted any more in shops, and while prices are still ending mostly with > 9, the sum gets rounded. > OT for this discussion: Where I live in Italy, one and two €cent

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - Payment denominations

2022-10-11 Thread Joseph Eisenberg
Right. According to the Federal Reserve: https://www.federalreserve.gov/faqs/currency_12772.htm "Is it legal for a business in the United States to refuse cash as a form of payment? "There is no federal statute mandating that a private business, a person, or an organization must accept currency

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - Payment denominations

2022-10-11 Thread Mark Wagner
On Sun, 9 Oct 2022 17:08:46 -0700 stevea wrote: > At least in the USA, using currency (required to be accepted) isn't > like barter (doesn't have to be accepted): we even have a notation > on each and every "Federal Reserve Note" (the debt instruments used > in the USA as paper currency, often

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - Payment denominations

2022-10-11 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 10 Oct 2022, at 12:07, Michael Brandtner wrote: > > The proposal includes advice to only use this tag in shops that don't accept > all denominations in Italy, one and two cent coins have been abolished, they are not accepted any more in shops, and while prices are

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - Payment denominations

2022-10-10 Thread stevea
On Oct 10, 2022, at 12:29 PM, Tom Pfeifer wrote: > On 10.10.2022 17:01, Marc_marc wrote: >> Le 10.10.22 à 10:54, Tom Pfeifer a écrit : >>> Sometimes such changes can even have technical reasons >> >> this does not change the problem: if you have a banknote that >> is not accepted by the vending

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - Payment denominations

2022-10-10 Thread Tom Pfeifer
On 10.10.2022 17:01, Marc_marc wrote: > Le 10.10.22 à 10:54, Tom Pfeifer a écrit : >> Sometimes such changes can even have technical reasons > > this does not change the problem: if you have a banknote that > is not accepted by the vending machine, you cannot buy your ticket, > no matter if it is

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - Payment denominations

2022-10-10 Thread Marc_marc
Le 10.10.22 à 10:54, Tom Pfeifer a écrit : Accepting a particular coin or banknote is among short-living business policies that can change frequently and is often harder to observe than e.g. opening_hours. maybe it's a cultural difference: the shops I know with a sign informing about this

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - Payment denominations

2022-10-10 Thread Warin
On 10/10/22 11:42, stevea wrote: Such "rules" would be somewhere in the realm of the "policy" of the merchant (or perhaps government agency). On Oct 9, 2022, at 5:25 PM, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: Mon, 10 Oct 2022 at 10:12, stevea wrote: Yes, I'm glad to hear this: somebody refusing a

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - Payment denominations

2022-10-10 Thread Michael Brandtner
The proposal includes advice to only use this tag in shops that don't accept all denominations. For vending machines, on the other hand, it is very common to not accept all denominations, so the tag should/can always be added. Kind regards Michael

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - Payment denominations

2022-10-10 Thread Tom Pfeifer
Accepting a particular coin or banknote is among short-living business policies that can change frequently and is often harder to observe than e.g. opening_hours. Thus they are difficult to maintain and likely to be outdated. In my opinion, they should not be in the OSM database in general.

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - Payment denominations

2022-10-10 Thread martianfreeloader
I agree, this discussion totally seems to be off topic. Please start a new thread for it and don't spam this one with numerous and lengthy emails. Cheers. On 10/10/2022 09:56, Davidoskky via Tagging wrote: question: is it legal in the EU not to accept certain types of Euronotes? Just

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - Payment denominations

2022-10-10 Thread Davidoskky via Tagging
question: is it legal in the EU not to accept certain types of Euronotes? Just chiming in since I'm not really interested in this proposal and I will not vote. It makes more sense to ask whether it is widespread in the EU not to accept certain types of notes rather than if it is legal.

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - Payment denominations

2022-10-09 Thread stevea
Such "rules" would be somewhere in the realm of the "policy" of the merchant (or perhaps government agency). I recall a guy in Los Angeles rather famously paying for a very overdue parking ticket of $180 with 18,000 pennies. They tried to refuse him, they tried to close the "counter" where

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - Payment denominations

2022-10-09 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Mon, 10 Oct 2022 at 10:12, stevea wrote: > Yes, I'm glad to hear this: somebody refusing a 500€ bill / invoice with > a 500€ note would simply make me leave the note on the table (counter, hand > of the proprietor, if s/he let me...) and walk away, my obligation to > remunerate fully and

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - Payment denominations

2022-10-09 Thread stevea
Yes, I'm glad to hear this: somebody refusing a 500€ bill / invoice with a 500€ note would simply make me leave the note on the table (counter, hand of the proprietor, if s/he let me...) and walk away, my obligation to remunerate fully and legally completed. At least in the USA, using

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - Payment denominations

2022-10-09 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 9 Oct 2022, at 23:26, Marc_marc wrote: > > but it's certainly not forbidden to pay for 500€ with a 500€ note, > even though some shops refuse to let you do so I heard it was forbidden in this case not to accept the 500 bill as it is legal tender

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - Payment denominations

2022-10-09 Thread Marc_marc
Hello, Le 09.10.22 à 22:58, Martin Koppenhoefer a écrit : is it legal in the EU not to accept certain types of Euronotes? I seem to have heard that some people wanted to ban it when the amount is less than half the ticket, also with coin in a bus. but it's certainly not forbidden to pay for

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - Payment denominations

2022-10-09 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging
Oct 9, 2022, 22:58 by dieterdre...@gmail.com: > > > sent from a phone > >> On 9 Oct 2022, at 22:01, m.brandt...@posteo.de wrote: >> >> voting has started for the proposal Payment denominations. >> > > > question: is it legal in the EU not to accept certain types of Euronotes? > no idea, but

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - Payment denominations

2022-10-09 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 9 Oct 2022, at 22:01, m.brandt...@posteo.de wrote: > > voting has started for the proposal Payment denominations. question: is it legal in the EU not to accept certain types of Euronotes? ___ Tagging mailing list