Re: [Tagging] Hotel dataset import? / Re: Baby-sitting

sent from a phone > On 13. Mar 2019, at 21:30, Sergio Manzi wrote: > > As far as regards Giovanni's import, my position is that I'm pretty sure that > the work he has done is of high quality, > the thing is, Giovanni can do the best work in the world, the resulting data will still

Re: [Tagging] Hotel dataset import? / Re: Baby-sitting

On 2019-03-13 21:30, Sergio Manzi wrote: > I also think that, as you correctly pointed out, both me and *Peter*, (/I > guess.../) forgot about "armchair mapping" which is neither "import" nor > "locally sourced" and probably represent a huge amount of data in OSM. My bad! Please read: I also

Re: [Tagging] Hotel dataset import? / Re: Baby-sitting

On 2019-03-13 19:04, Volker Schmidt wrote: > On Wed, 13 Mar 2019 at 15:45, Sergio Manzi mailto:s...@smz.it>> > wrote: > > Have mappers walked along the whole world coastlines? Have they descended > all world's rivers by canoe? > > No, these are examples where imports make sense as these are

Re: [Tagging] Hotel dataset import? / Re: Baby-sitting

On 2019-03-13 20:22, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > On 13. Mar 2019, at 16:34, Sergio Manzi mailto:s...@smz.it>> > wrote: > >> ... an example of massively imported data (/which I agree with, btw.../): >>

Re: [Tagging] Hotel dataset import? / Re: Baby-sitting

sent from a phone > On 13. Mar 2019, at 16:34, Sergio Manzi wrote: > > ... an example of massively imported data (which I agree with, btw...): > https://blogs.bing.com/maps/2018-06/microsoft-releases-125-million-building-footprints-in-the-us-as-open-data This data wasn’t generally imported

Re: [Tagging] Hotel dataset import? / Re: Baby-sitting

sent from a phone > On 13. Mar 2019, at 15:44, Sergio Manzi wrote: > > Have mappers walked along the whole world coastlines? Have they descended all > world's rivers by canoe? Have all Mumbay, New York, Rome, Shanghai, etc., > streets and alleys been walked by volunteers mapping their

Re: [Tagging] Hotel dataset import? / Re: Baby-sitting

On Wed, 13 Mar 2019 at 15:45, Sergio Manzi wrote: > Have mappers walked along the whole world coastlines? Have they descended > all world's rivers by canoe? > No, these are examples where imports make sense as these are feature that change slowly (normally) Have all Mumbay, New York, Rome,

Re: [Tagging] Hotel dataset import? / Re: Baby-sitting

On 2019-03-13 15:44, Sergio Manzi wrote: > On 2019-03-13 15:27, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: >> >> >> >> Mar 13, 2019, 12:53 PM by s...@smz.it: >> >> On 2019-03-13 12:15, Tom Pfeifer wrote: >>> I think you misunderstand. OSM is based on locally sourced, handcrafted >>> data. That creates the

Re: [Tagging] Hotel dataset import? / Re: Baby-sitting

On 2019-03-13 15:27, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > > > > Mar 13, 2019, 12:53 PM by s...@smz.it: > > On 2019-03-13 12:15, Tom Pfeifer wrote: >> I think you misunderstand. OSM is based on locally sourced, handcrafted >> data. That creates the high quality. > > That's totally inaccurate. >

Re: [Tagging] Hotel dataset import? / Re: Baby-sitting

Mar 13, 2019, 2:34 PM by cascaf...@gmail.com: > > Il giorno mer 13 mar 2019 alle ore 12:16 Tom Pfeifer <> > > t.pfei...@computer.org > > ha scritto: > > > I think you misunderstand. OSM is based on locally sourced, handcrafted > > data. That creates the high

Re: [Tagging] Hotel dataset import? / Re: Baby-sitting

Just my five €cents: My experience with the massive imports in Veneto is, under many aspects, negative. I have tried in vain to stop or revert them. There are a number of problems, just to list a few basic ones: - we import perisahbale data which are at best remotely related to what should

Re: [Tagging] Hotel dataset import? / Re: Baby-sitting

Mar 13, 2019, 12:53 PM by s...@smz.it: > On 2019-03-13 12:15, Tom Pfeifer wrote: > >> I think you misunderstand. OSM is based on locally sourced, >> handcrafted data. That creates the high quality. >> > > That's totally inaccurate. > > > The reality is that OSM is based on imported

Re: [Tagging] Hotel dataset import? / Re: Baby-sitting

On 2019-03-13 14:45, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > Am Mi., 13. März 2019 um 12:54 Uhr schrieb Sergio Manzi >: > > On 2019-03-13 12:15, Tom Pfeifer wrote: >> I think you misunderstand. OSM is based on locally sourced, handcrafted >> data. That creates the high

Re: [Tagging] Hotel dataset import? / Re: Baby-sitting

Am Mi., 13. März 2019 um 14:36 Uhr schrieb Cascafico Giovanni < cascaf...@gmail.com>: > > Il giorno mer 13 mar 2019 alle ore 12:16 Tom Pfeifer < > t.pfei...@computer.org> ha scritto: > > > I think you misunderstand. OSM is based on locally sourced, handcrafted > data. That creates the high

Re: [Tagging] Hotel dataset import? / Re: Baby-sitting

On 13/03/2019 13:34, Cascafico Giovanni wrote: Have you ever seen hot tasks results? Huge building polys, mixed misalignments, nonxistent tags... lots of poor quality stuff and, worst of all, everything mixed to (few) high quality surveys... but it seems they are useful...of course they are:

Re: [Tagging] Hotel dataset import? / Re: Baby-sitting

Am Mi., 13. März 2019 um 12:54 Uhr schrieb Sergio Manzi : > On 2019-03-13 12:15, Tom Pfeifer wrote: > > I think you misunderstand. OSM is based on locally sourced, handcrafted > data. That creates the high quality. > > That's totally inaccurate. > > The reality is that OSM is based on imported

Re: [Tagging] Hotel dataset import? / Re: Baby-sitting

> Il giorno mer 13 mar 2019 alle ore 12:16 Tom Pfeifer < t.pfei...@computer.org> ha scritto: > I think you misunderstand. OSM is based on locally sourced, handcrafted data. That creates the high quality Have youi ever seen hot tasks results? Huge building polys, mixed misalignments, nonxistent

Re: [Tagging] Hotel dataset import? / Re: Baby-sitting

On 2019-03-13 12:15, Tom Pfeifer wrote: > I think you misunderstand. OSM is based on locally sourced, handcrafted data. > That creates the high quality. That's totally inaccurate. The reality is that OSM is based on imported data, augmented by locally sourced information (/of ///sometimes

Re: [Tagging] Hotel dataset import? / Re: Baby-sitting

Hello, Le 13.03.19 à 10:50, Cascafico Giovanni a écrit : > - since there is one (1) ML unaswered doubt if "01 Jan - 31 Dec" should > be replaced by 24/7: import is anyway bad I find that they are 2 totally different things: one informs that the poi is open all year round, the other all day.

Re: [Tagging] Hotel dataset import? / Re: Baby-sitting

On 13.03.2019 10:50, Cascafico Giovanni wrote: The lattest is great and leads to grotesque consequences: when a colleague hands me 12 guidepost locations to geocode, I must message planet import ML, local ML, write an import page and ask my fellow a consent form with certified signature. Is

Re: [Tagging] Hotel dataset import? / Re: Baby-sitting

> > Il giorno lun 11 mar 2019 alle ore 14:11 Mateusz Konieczny < > matkoni...@tutanota.com> ha scritto: > > Fixed in > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Import=1820348=1551233 > > I took a 600+ dataset, geocoded them, manually conflate 53 of them, put source references on umap, put

Re: [Tagging] Hotel dataset import? / Re: Baby-sitting

Il giorno lun 11 mar 2019 alle ore 12:20 Cascafico Giovanni < cascaf...@gmail.com> ha scritto: > > You were criticized for stretching the opening_hours syntax to describe > seasonal operations ("Jan 01 > > - Dec 31"), but did not respond nor adjust your tagging. > > Sorry for that. Is it wrong? I

Re: [Tagging] Hotel dataset import? / Re: Baby-sitting

Mar 11, 2019, 12:20 PM by cascaf...@gmail.com: > Il giorno sab 9 mar 2019 alle ore 22:15 Tom Pfeifer <> t.pfei...@computer.org > > > ha scritto: > > > I have severe problems with your process. First, yes it is an import. You > > called it an import > > yourself

Re: [Tagging] Hotel dataset import? / Re: Baby-sitting

Le 11.03.19 à 12:20, Cascafico Giovanni a écrit : > limiting by myself the number not to trigger it as an import. > > If anybody in this ML considers that this activity is different from > getting informations from hotel websites and putting them in OSM, I will > immediately abort the

Re: [Tagging] Hotel dataset import? / Re: Baby-sitting

Il giorno sab 9 mar 2019 alle ore 22:15 Tom Pfeifer ha scritto: > I have severe problems with your process. First, yes it is an import. You called it an import > yourself ("manually importing") here, and on the Italien list where you first asked about the > tagging. > Where did you see a "100

Re: [Tagging] Hotel dataset import? / Re: Baby-sitting

Giovanni, I have severe problems with your process. First, yes it is an import. You called it an import yourself ("manually importing") here, and on the Italien list where you first asked about the tagging [2]. Where did you see a "100 nodes" limit documented? You are copying from one database

Re: [Tagging] Hotel dataset import? / Re: Baby-sitting

AFAIK <100 nodes don't fall in import category. >> > I see 586 blue elements on the umap, or am I missing something? ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Hotel dataset import? / Re: Baby-sitting

[1] http://umap.openstreetmap.fr/it/map/turismo-fvg_295722 Il sab 9 mar 2019, 12:18 Cascafico Giovanni ha scritto: > In short (I'm on phone)... > Please find here [1] umap used for manual conflation. For source data and > license, follow footer info link. > > AFAIK <100 nodes don't fall in

Re: [Tagging] Hotel dataset import? / Re: Baby-sitting

In short (I'm on phone)... Please find here [1] umap used for manual conflation. For source data and license, follow footer info link. AFAIK <100 nodes don't fall in import category. Il sab 9 mar 2019, 11:46 Tom Pfeifer ha scritto: > On 09.03.2019 10:10, Cascafico Giovanni wrote: > > Well,