Re: [Tagging] leisure=events

2014-03-12 Thread Antônio Marcos
I am still struggling a bit about the key that should be used with the events value. Should I keep leisure, as it is now, or change it to landuse? What are your opinions on this, please? Thanks for the help :). On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 9:06 PM, johnw jo...@mac.com wrote: IMHO we do indeed

Re: [Tagging] leisure=events

2014-03-12 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2014-03-12 20:21 GMT+01:00 Antônio Marcos toni.o...@gmail.com: I am still struggling a bit about the key that should be used with the events value. Should I keep leisure, as it is now, or change it to landuse? What are your opinions on this, please? IMHO there could be a landuse, but

Re: [Tagging] leisure=events

2014-03-12 Thread Antônio Marcos
Are there any other keys that may contain the event area value? There may be buildings permanently installed on it or it may even contain nothing, being just a reserved/symbolic use of the land, so it seems to fit in both cases of landuse and leisure. On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 4:30 PM, Martin

Re: [Tagging] leisure=events

2014-03-12 Thread Yves
Leisure yes, landuse no. On 12 mars 2014 20:21:23 UTC+01:00, Antônio Marcos toni.o...@gmail.com wrote: I am still struggling a bit about the key that should be used with the events value. Should I keep leisure, as it is now, or change it to landuse? What are your opinions on this, please? Thanks

Re: [Tagging] leisure=events

2014-03-12 Thread Antônio Marcos
But still is there any other key other than landuse or leisure that fits better with event_space? On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 6:08 PM, John Willis jo...@mac.com wrote: On Mar 13, 2014, at 5:32 AM, Antônio Marcos toni.o...@gmail.com wrote: Are there any other keys that may contain the event area

Re: [Tagging] leisure=events

2014-03-12 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2014-03-12 22:12 GMT+01:00 Antônio Marcos toni.o...@gmail.com: But still is there any other key other than landuse or leisure that fits better with event_space? for me leisure is OK, amenity would be fine as well. Cheers, Martin ___ Tagging

Re: [Tagging] leisure=events

2014-03-12 Thread John Packer
I think it should be either amenity=* or landuse=*. leisure=* sounds odd, since the place can be vacant most of the time(and not accessible during that time). 2014-03-12 18:15 GMT-03:00 Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com: 2014-03-12 22:12 GMT+01:00 Antônio Marcos toni.o...@gmail.com:

Re: [Tagging] leisure=events

2014-03-12 Thread Yves
On 12 mars 2014 23:00:04 UTC+01:00, John Packer john.pack...@gmail.com wrote: I think it should be either amenity=* or landuse=*. leisure=* sounds odd, since the place can be vacant most of the time(and not accessible during that time). -This is an 'event'. Yves 2014-03-12 18:15 GMT-03:00

Re: [Tagging] leisure=events

2014-03-12 Thread Eugene Alvin Villar
When I think of leisure=events, I think of facilities (that are not convention centers) where you can hold social and corporate events such as company parties, wedding receptions, small musical concerts, product launchings and the like. Here in my country there are plenty of such facilities and

Re: [Tagging] leisure=events

2014-03-12 Thread Antônio Marcos
I think places like these event venues with already fixed facilities on the area can be fitted in the event place proposal, but these can sound like amenities or leisures. There are places with no buildings used for festivities that are more like landuses, though. On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 7:26

Re: [Tagging] leisure=events

2014-03-10 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am 10/mar/2014 um 00:36 schrieb Dave Swarthout daveswarth...@gmail.com: landuse=civic could you give some more examples what fits into this? a public swimming pool? a courthouse? a library? a power station ? A wastewater treatment plant? the homeland security vehicle depot? a museum? a

Re: [Tagging] leisure=events

2014-03-10 Thread Peter Wendorff
Am 10.03.2014 06:39, schrieb Yves: Many music festival take place on otherwise landuse=meadow +1 And even other shared purpose concepts are pretty common for event spaces, I think: - Sometimes parks (most of the year leisure=park) are used for events regularly. - Many parking spaces (most of the

Re: [Tagging] leisure=events

2014-03-10 Thread Martin Koppenhöfer
Am 10.03.2014 um 09:30 schrieb Peter Wendorff wendo...@uni-paderborn.de: And even other shared purpose concepts are pretty common for event spaces, I think: - Sometimes parks (most of the year leisure=park) are used for events regularly. - Many parking spaces (most of the year

Re: [Tagging] leisure=events

2014-03-10 Thread johnw
Well, to me, landuse=civic it is the land that public owned, public accessed facilities that not covered by a specific existing landuse (works, water treatment plant, school, landfill, highways, railways). In the built environment (not natural), there are some *general* landuses, such as: -

Re: [Tagging] leisure=events

2014-03-10 Thread Pieren
+1 for leisure (not presuming any combination/overlapping with a landuse) -1 for events (could be misused for any events, not for a dedicated place) +1 for event(s)_space, event(s)_place, event_whateveryoulike Pieren ___ Tagging mailing list

Re: [Tagging] leisure=events

2014-03-10 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2014-03-10 10:52 GMT+01:00 johnw jo...@mac.com: Well, to me, landuse=civic it is the land that public owned, public accessed facilities that not covered by a specific existing landuse (works, water treatment plant, school, landfill, highways, railways). IMHO we should not mix specific and

Re: [Tagging] leisure=events

2014-03-10 Thread John F. Eldredge
...@gmail.com daveswarth...@gmail.com, Tag discussion, strategy and related tools tagging@openstreetmap.org Cc: Tag discussion, strategy and related tools tagging@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Tagging] leisure=events Am 10/mar/2014 um 00:36 schrieb Dave Swarthout daveswarth...@gmail.com

Re: [Tagging] leisure=events

2014-03-10 Thread Nick Allen
: [Tagging] leisure=events Am 10/mar/2014 um 00:36 schrieb Dave Swarthout daveswarth...@gmail.com: landuse=civic could you give some more examples what fits into this? a public swimming pool? a courthouse? a library? a power station ? A wastewater treatment plant? the homeland security

Re: [Tagging] leisure=events

2014-03-10 Thread johnw
Thanks for the quick reply Martin! I always assumed commercial = company = private. Same with industrial = industry, otherwise we would have no need for building=civic / public. reading through what you wrote, it seem like most of my suggested civic buildings would be landuse=commerical

Re: [Tagging] leisure=events

2014-03-10 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2014-03-10 12:48 GMT+01:00 johnw jo...@mac.com: otherwise we would have no need for building=civic / public. IMHO we do indeed have no need for building=public / civic. Both can be considered vague building types, but on a very generic level, I'd encourage everyone to use more specific

Re: [Tagging] leisure=events

2014-03-10 Thread Antônio Marcos
Thanks for the support so far, I think the leisure key doesn't fit good in the case, the event-destinated area is not a place where people generally go during the year in their spare time when there is no events, so it is a pretty specific land used and reserved for events. Also, the leisure tag

Re: [Tagging] leisure=events

2014-03-10 Thread Philip Barnes
On Sun, 2014-03-09 at 20:49 +0100, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2014-03-09 17:18 GMT+01:00 Antônio Marcos toni.o...@gmail.com: I have created this proposal some time ago for a new tag called leisure=events (originally landuse=events), which should describe areas

Re: [Tagging] leisure=events

2014-03-10 Thread Antônio Marcos
I think areas used for temporary fairs would fit well in landuse=events. The case of a permanent fairground seems to be just like an amusement park, which can be just tagged as tourism=theme_park. What I want to keep clear is that event areas are permanent places for events and are lands reserved

Re: [Tagging] leisure=events

2014-03-10 Thread johnw
IMHO we do indeed have no need for building=public / civic. if I were back in San Deigo, I might agree with that, but having come to Japan, there is a definite and immediately recognizable distinction of city buildings, *and* they are used quite heavily. There is a known difference and a

Re: [Tagging] leisure=events

2014-03-09 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2014-03-09 17:18 GMT+01:00 Antônio Marcos toni.o...@gmail.com: I have created this proposal some time ago for a new tag called leisure=events (originally landuse=events), which should describe areas reserved for events in a city or in a place (more info at the proposal page

Re: [Tagging] leisure=events

2014-03-09 Thread Antônio Marcos
I've never heard of fairground, but it seems to be a quite specific tag that could be substituted by or even inside the events area. The events tag is indeed supposed to be generic, just like landuse=retail, which demarks areas used by shops, and the leisure or landuse key before the events value

Re: [Tagging] leisure=events

2014-03-09 Thread Tod Fitch
It seems to me that landuse=events is reasonable. Most of the places called fairgrounds where I am are used for other events other than the traditional once a year fair. There are often swap meets, animal shows, concerts, and other events held during the year. And the area often (always in my

Re: [Tagging] leisure=events

2014-03-09 Thread John Willis
This ties into my idea for landuse=civic. There is no way to designate the land use for city buildings, etc, except for narrowly defined ones, such as schools. There are courthouses, community centers, public performance venues, and other areas where the buildings have specific tags, but there

Re: [Tagging] leisure=events

2014-03-09 Thread jonathan
I definitely think there is a need for this, I can think of many places around the UK this could apply to. landuse=events is better than leisure=* Jonathan http://bigfatfrog67.me On 09/03/2014 21:31, Tod Fitch wrote: It seems to me that landuse=events is reasonable. Most of the places

Re: [Tagging] leisure=events

2014-03-09 Thread Dave Swarthout
I like both of these: landuse=events landuse=civic Regards, Dave On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 4:41 AM, jonathan jonat...@bigfatfrog67.me wrote: I definitely think there is a need for this, I can think of many places around the UK this could apply to. landuse=events is better than leisure=*

Re: [Tagging] leisure=events

2014-03-09 Thread Yves
Many music festival take place on otherwise landuse=meadow On 9 mars 2014 22:41:51 UTC+01:00, jonathan jonat...@bigfatfrog67.me wrote: I definitely think there is a need for this, I can think of many places around the UK this could apply to. landuse=events is better than leisure=* Jonathan