Re: [Tagging] What is this called?

2010-06-10 Thread André Riedel
2010/6/10 Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com: I would prefer barrier=horse_stiles. I think singular: barrier=horse_stile. There's definitely very little google support for horse hops. All in favour of barrier=horse_stile? +1 2010/6/9 John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com:

Re: [Tagging] What is this called?

2010-06-10 Thread John Smith
On 10 June 2010 17:10, André Riedel riedel.an...@gmail.com wrote: Is it possible to use your photo? It's not my photo, someone on the talk-au list found it on Google and it isn't under any kind of CC-by license, however someone has indicated they live near one and are going out to take a photo

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] Tagging wide steps (tribune / terrace)

2010-06-10 Thread fly
I have used the area relation for a step. It is not complete yet (the step is even more complicated) but we could use it as example and have a look who it is rendered. relation id:957489 I still do not know where to put the information that you have to drop steps from the bottom and not from the

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] Tagging wide steps (tribune / terrace)

2010-06-10 Thread fly
validator gives warnings about the lower/upper way because these ways do not have any tag. Do we need a tag for these ways ? ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] Tagging wide steps (tribune / terrace)

2010-06-10 Thread Chris Hill
fly wrote: validator gives warnings about the lower/upper way because these ways do not have any tag. Do we need a tag for these ways ? I put source tags on ways in relations, even if the rest of the tags are on the relation. Cheers, Chris ___

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] Tagging wide steps (tribune / terrace)

2010-06-10 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2010/6/10 fly lowfligh...@googlemail.com: validator gives warnings about the lower/upper way because these ways do not have any tag. Do we need a tag for these ways ? IMHO it shouldn't as the way is part of a relation. It doesn't for mp-relations for instance. cheers, Martin

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] Tagging wide steps (tribune / terrace)

2010-06-10 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2010/6/10 fly lowfligh...@googlemail.com: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/957489 I still do not know where to put the information that you have to drop steps from the bottom and not from the top. if you have different amount of steps inside the area, you will currently have to

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] Tagging wide steps (tribune / terrace)

2010-06-10 Thread fly
Am 10.06.2010 13:48, schrieb M∡rtin Koppenhoefer: 2010/6/10 fly lowfligh...@googlemail.com: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/957489 I still do not know where to put the information that you have to drop steps from the bottom and not from the top. if you have different

[Tagging] highway=motorway and motorroad (implies)

2010-06-10 Thread fly
Hi I think it would be better to tag motorway with motorroad and oneway yes and stip of all the implied tag. 1. I know some motorways which are not oneway. 2. Right now your are not allowed to ride with a motorcycle on motorways, as long as it is not tagged seperatly ! 3. Maybe your are allowed

Re: [Tagging] highway=motorway and motorroad (implies)

2010-06-10 Thread John Smith
On 10 June 2010 22:51, fly lowfligh...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi I think it would be better to tag motorway with motorroad and oneway yes and stip of all the implied tag. Anything implied doesn't need to be added, removing it would save space, similar to the removal of unneeded or unwanted

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] Tagging wide steps (tribune / terrace)

2010-06-10 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2010/6/10 fly lowfligh...@googlemail.com: Have a look: http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/display/17927910 I said it is even more complicated and even on this picture you do not see all steps ! OK, but the steps on the picture are not that complicated. You need only 2 relations: one with 11

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] Tagging wide steps (tribune / terrace)

2010-06-10 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2010/6/10 M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com: 2010/6/10 fly lowfligh...@googlemail.com: Have a look: http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/display/17927910 I said it is even more complicated and even on this picture you do not see all steps ! OK, but the steps on the picture are not

Re: [Tagging] highway=motorway and motorroad (implies)

2010-06-10 Thread Pieren
On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 2:51 PM, fly lowfligh...@googlemail.com wrote: 1. I know some motorways which are not oneway. not in Europe 2. Right now your are not allowed to ride with a motorcycle on motorways, as long as it is not tagged seperatly ! why ? 3. Maybe your are allowed to use

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] Tagging wide steps (tribune / terrace)

2010-06-10 Thread fly
Am 10.06.2010 15:22, schrieb M∡rtin Koppenhoefer: 2010/6/10 M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com: 2010/6/10 fly lowfligh...@googlemail.com: Have a look: http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/display/17927910 I said it is even more complicated and even on this picture you do not see all

Re: [Tagging] highway=motorway and motorroad (implies)

2010-06-10 Thread fly
Am 10.06.2010 15:23, schrieb Pieren: On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 2:51 PM, fly lowfligh...@googlemail.com mailto:lowfligh...@googlemail.com wrote: 1. I know some motorways which are not oneway. not in Europe yes, in Germany. If the Road is in/under cronstuction and also some ends of

Re: [Tagging] highway=motorway and motorroad (implies)

2010-06-10 Thread Elena of Valhalla
On 6/10/10, fly lowfligh...@googlemail.com wrote: Am 10.06.2010 15:23, schrieb Pieren: 1. I know some motorways which are not oneway. not in Europe yes, in Germany. If the Road is in/under cronstuction and also some ends of motorways. End of motorways that aren't oneway don't look like

Re: [Tagging] highway=motorway and motorroad (implies)

2010-06-10 Thread Simone Saviolo
In Italy, access to motorways is forbidden to any vehicle not able to reach 80 km/h on a level floor, and motorbikes and motorcycles under 250cc are excluded too. The motorway must be a dual carriageway (which implies oneway=yes) with at least two lanes per carriageway. There may be sections with

Re: [Tagging] highway=motorway and motorroad (implies)

2010-06-10 Thread Pieren
On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 4:41 PM, fly lowfligh...@googlemail.com wrote: yes, in Germany. If the Road is in/under cronstuction and also some ends of motorways. They are sign as motorways but the only have one lane and some have no physical barrier in between. This situation can sometimes

Re: [Tagging] highway=motorway and motorroad (implies)

2010-06-10 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2010/6/10 Elena of Valhalla elena.valha...@gmail.com: On 6/10/10, fly lowfligh...@googlemail.com wrote: Am 10.06.2010 15:23, schrieb Pieren:     1. I know some motorways which are not oneway. not in Europe yes, in Germany. If the Road is in/under cronstuction and also some ends of motorways.

Re: [Tagging] highway=motorway and motorroad (implies)

2010-06-10 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2010/6/10 Elena of Valhalla elena.valha...@gmail.com: On 6/10/10, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: http://de.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Datei:Zeichen_334.svgfiletimestamp=20060506221325 everything in between is a motorway. In Italy e.g. the end of motorway sign (like

Re: [Tagging] highway=motorway and motorroad (implies)

2010-06-10 Thread Anthony
On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 9:23 AM, Pieren pier...@gmail.com wrote: It was said here that some motorways allow bicycle in US. But nowhere else. The US does not recognize motorway as a designation. So a motorway is whatever we define it to be. I'd say that by definition a motorway does not allow

Re: [Tagging] highway=motorway and motorroad (implies)

2010-06-10 Thread Anthony
On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 11:35 AM, Simone Saviolo simone.savi...@gmail.comwrote: IMO, if the law defines motorways to have certain features, these should be implied. How about the Vienna Convention on Road Traffic: [quote]Motorway means a road specially designed and built for motor traffic

Re: [Tagging] highway=motorway and motorroad (implies)

2010-06-10 Thread John F. Eldredge
I knew that Interstates were patrolled by state police, but was under the (possibly mistaken) impression that many of the regulations concerning the use of the Interstate highway system were set by the Federal government, since it set up the Interstate highway system and provides the majority

Re: [Tagging] highway=motorway and motorroad (implies)

2010-06-10 Thread Martin Simon
2010/6/11 M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com: good point actually. I think it would be better to tag these service areas as motorway_service instead of a simple service. That would make it a lot easier to see them if your on the motorway (-zoom level). (highway=service,