[Tagging] First bona fide mini-roundabout spotted

2012-05-07 Thread Paul Johnson
This one surprised me, was pretty sure that the US didn't have real mini roundabouts, but I just spotted one in Burien, WA. http://g.co/maps/afh8m ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] [Talk-us] First bona fide mini-roundabout spotted

2012-05-07 Thread Ian Dees
On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 8:46 AM, Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote: This one surprised me, was pretty sure that the US didn't have real mini roundabouts, but I just spotted one in Burien, WA. http://g.co/maps/afh8m I've mapped dozens of these as miniroundabouts in the midwest:

Re: [Tagging] [Talk-us] First bona fide mini-roundabout spotted

2012-05-07 Thread Paul Johnson
On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 6:51 AM, Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote: I've mapped dozens of these as miniroundabouts in the midwest: http://g.co/maps/w7mnr That's not a mini, though, since you can't just drive over the island. Here's an eponymous example of a mini roundabout: http://goo.gl/6Qswf

Re: [Tagging] [Talk-us] First bona fide mini-roundabout spotted

2012-05-07 Thread Paul Johnson
On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 6:59 AM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote: Same here. I'm ignoring this wiki-fiddling: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Tag:highway%3Dmini_roundaboutdiff=747981oldid=689543 Both edits you mention seem to agree that the island is traversable in a

Re: [Tagging] [Talk-us] First bona fide mini-roundabout spotted

2012-05-07 Thread Martin Vonwald
The difference between a roundabout and a mini-roundabout is the center: you can - and in fact are allowed to under certain circumstances - drive straight over the island in the middle of a mini-roundabout. You better not try this on a roundabout. ;-) For a more detailed explanation see

Re: [Tagging] [Talk-us] First bona fide mini-roundabout spotted

2012-05-07 Thread Paul Johnson
On May 7, 2012 7:06 AM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote: On 5/7/2012 9:59 AM, Paul Johnson wrote: On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 6:51 AM, Ian Deesian.d...@gmail.com wrote: I've mapped dozens of these as miniroundabouts in the midwest: http://g.co/maps/w7mnr That's not a mini, though,

Re: [Tagging] [Talk-us] First bona fide mini-roundabout spotted

2012-05-07 Thread Paul Johnson
On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 8:05 AM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote: It vaults right over any supposed definition of mini-roundabout. I suppose if you ignored the whole traversability or vertical clearance requirements the wiki's had since the tag was created in the wiki, sure.

[Tagging] day_on / day_off question

2012-05-07 Thread Martijn van Exel
Hi, How would I map a situation like this (see below)? See my current try at this here: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/33973144 Feel free to improve. Cars Private vehicles are allowed on all holidays and even calendar days during the summer period from

Re: [Tagging] [Talk-us] First bona fide mini-roundabout spotted

2012-05-07 Thread Paul Johnson
On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 9:58 AM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote: On 5/7/2012 12:41 PM, Paul Johnson wrote: On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 8:05 AM, Nathan Edgars IInerou...@gmail.com  wrote: It vaults right over any supposed definition of mini-roundabout. I suppose if you ignored the

Re: [Tagging] [Talk-us] First bona fide mini-roundabout spotted

2012-05-07 Thread Paul Johnson
On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 10:14 AM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote: On 5/7/2012 1:02 PM, Paul Johnson wrote: Still, the diverging use overlaps improperly with the actual roundabout correctly as a ring using junction=roundabout. ;o) You're assuming that each real-world situation has

Re: [Tagging] day_on / day_off question

2012-05-07 Thread Jørgen Elgaard Larsen
Martijn van Exel wrote: See my current try at this here: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/33973144 First of all, you should not use motor_vehicle=private. That does *not* mean private vehicles, but rather that motor vehicles are allowed Only with permission of the owner on an

Re: [Tagging] [Talk-us] First bona fide mini-roundabout spotted

2012-05-07 Thread Paul Johnson
On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 1:28 PM, Nathan Mills nat...@nwacg.net wrote: So this is not/should not be a mini_roundabout? It seems a little silly to call it anything else, since the city just dug a hole in the center of the existing intersection, built a circular curb, and planted a tree:

Re: [Tagging] [Talk-us] First bona fide mini-roundabout spotted

2012-05-07 Thread Paul Johnson
On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 2:07 PM, Nathan Mills nat...@nwacg.net wrote: On 5/7/2012 3:30 PM, Paul Johnson wrote: On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 1:28 PM, Nathan Millsnat...@nwacg.net  wrote: http://g.co/maps/hnbp9 All three are roundabouts, yes. How are you going to properly map the first one? There

Re: [Tagging] [Talk-us] First bona fide mini-roundabout spotted

2012-05-07 Thread Philip Barnes
On Mon, 2012-05-07 at 13:30 -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 1:28 PM, Nathan Mills nat...@nwacg.net wrote: So this is not/should not be a mini_roundabout? It seems a little silly to call it anything else, since the city just dug a hole in the center of the existing

Re: [Tagging] day_on / day_off question

2012-05-07 Thread Martijn van Exel
Hi, Thanks for providing your insights, Jørgen. On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 12:58 PM, Jørgen Elgaard Larsen j...@elgaard.net wrote: Martijn van Exel wrote: See my current try at this here: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/33973144 First of all, you should not use motor_vehicle=private.